Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation?

Also, Momma,

I understand what Chai Tea is saying. I made a real decision to "leave" Christianity after spending many years "full commited to Christ".

It seems like you and baddog are making judgements about those of us who have made the decision to leave Christianity. Talking judgementally among yourselves about my decision while I am right here may be considered in poor taste.

For the record, baddog, I have no fearful expectation of the raging fire that will consume the enemies of God, nor has my life been particularly unlivable since I left.

Sarcasm = pain in disguise

And why is that Chai Tea? Because I find making jokes about God and an individual's personal beliefs inappropriate? Let's see, if you use certain words in regards to a person of a different color or race, you can be sued for it. I thought no one was to be discriminated against because of their race, creed, nationality, or religion?

What makes it ok for some to do it and some not? You have every right to your opinion and I respect that right. I just don't feel ANYONE has the right to be abusive IN ANY WAY to ANYONE for expressing their views.

And no, not the Salvation Police by any means whatsoever. I have no problem with someone saying they do not believe what I believe, think what I think, etc., no problem whatsoever with that. I just feel everyone can express how they feel in a courteous manner.

Once courtesy is abandoned there seems to be no real discussion or exchange of views.

And no, not an angel by any means! LOL. I use the same userid for everything so I don't get confused!

John 10:22-30
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22. Then came the Feast of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter,
23. and Jesus was in the temple area walking in Solomon's Colonnade.
24. The Jews gathered around him, saying, "How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly."
25. Jesus answered, "I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in My Father's name speak for Me,
26. but you do not believe because you are not My sheep.
27. My sheep (believers, Christians) listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me.
28. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of My hand.
29. My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater than all ; no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand.
30. I and the Father are One."


So based on what Jesus said
"no one can snatch them out of My hand
"no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand"
Blessed Assurance

Gee whiz Husker, how very Christian (and supercillious) of you. If I didn't like you I might get really pissed by that remark!

Wow, am I a minder reader or what! Isn't this the response I predicted you'd give?

I was not making jokes about God. Lighten up. I meant every word I say, I choose not to temper them with all this PC crap. God knows what I think, and he definately knows I was not joking.

Oh and here we go AGAIN, with the "You have a right....blah, blah, blah, and I respect that.....blah, blah blah....." You know, that's getting really old......
and what, you're the Courtesy Police too?

What, are you Amy Vanderbilt, Miss Manners and Ann Landers all rolled into one?
Too many people use the word courtesy to stop people from saying what's really on their minds.
once courstesy is abandoned, there are be no exchange of idea.....my foot!
It's all this (false) courtesy that keeps people from speaking their minds.
How can someone convey an idea when your limited to only saying something that will offend no one?
Be offended, I don't care.

I'm not discourtesous, just tired of other agenda behind people words, as in "you have every right to believe what you want (even though you're going to hell"

I stand by my words. It might be refreshing if you were to come down off your ivory tower once in a while and let your hair down and just blow off some steam. I'm not going to tell you that you are so full of yourself, but you sure give the appearance that you are.

It's not like we're all a bunch of children going to finishing school, and discourteous or not, it's sure a lot better than all the subtext.

It seems like you and baddog are making judgements about those of us who have made the decision to leave Christianity. Talking judgementally among yourselves about my decision while I am right here may be considered in poor taste.

For the record, baddog, I have no fearful expectation of the raging fire that will consume the enemies of God, nor has my life been particularly unlivable
since I left.

...27. My sheep (believers, Christians) listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me.
28. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of My hand.
29. My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater than all ; no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand.
30. I and the Father are One."

The argument for this question of losing salvation has long been; "was the person actually saved to begin with"?

However, the following scriptures seem to answer this.

Hebrews 10:26, 27
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.

Any thoughts?

Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation?

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Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation?

If they do, and i can get it back for them, is there a finder's fee worth having?

Setanta wrote:

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Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation?

If they do, and i can get it back for them, is there a finder's fee worth having?

Unfortunately, 'saved' is primarily a protestant concept, so bread and grape juice, er, the body and blood of Christ, are probably the best you can hope for.