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Who Is the Enemy

 
 
gollum
 
Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2022 09:16 am
Why don't we declare war not on Russia but on Putin?

We should then announce to the heads of the Russian military, security services, industry, and other power centers that we wish for a peace treaty with them acting for Russia. As part of the arrangement, they should arrest Putin and turn him over to the International Criminal Court.
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2022 09:31 am
@gollum,
Because it's a bloody stupid idea.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2022 11:54 am
@gollum,
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
gollum wrote:

Why don't we declare war not on Russia but on Putin?

FFS! No one wants to start WWIII.
gollum
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2022 12:19 pm
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan-

I think it might preclude World War III.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2022 03:06 pm
@gollum,
I disagree
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Mame
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2022 03:13 pm
@gollum,
He has quite a few henchmen around him who believe in what he's doing, so even if you got rid of Putin, you'd be dealing with someone similar.
gollum
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2022 04:28 pm
@Mame,
Many people have obtained great wealth under Putin. During the Ukrainian war, many suffered a reduction in wealth, a reduction in their ability to travel around the world and to domicile their money and property around the world, and a reduction in their quality of life inside Russia.

Nikita Khrushchev was removed by a coup.

Mikhail Gorbachev was removed by a coup.

Boris Yeltsin resigned when his popularity was at 2%.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2022 07:34 pm
@Mame,
Mame wrote:

He has quite a few henchmen around him who believe in what he's doing, so even if you got rid of Putin, you'd be dealing with someone similar.

But, they might be more effective. It's hard to imagine them being less so.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 04:39 am
@gollum,
Gorbachev wasn't removed by a coup the coup failed, the plotters were arrested, but it did lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Krushchev was removed by procedures naming leadership by the Central committee, procedures Krushchev himself implemented.

It was not a coup.
gollum
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 08:00 am
@izzythepush,
They got the push, Izzy and so might Putin.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 08:27 am
@gollum,
Stalin didn't, and neither might Putin.
gollum
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 10:39 am
@izzythepush,
Why doesn't the U.S. order all Russian citizens out of the U.S.?

I'm not sure whether there are any individuals holding both U.S. and Russian citizenship. I don't think we should permit the practice.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 11:16 am
@gollum,
Is thst what you want, a government that can order its citizens around?

What should be the consequdnces of not obeying orders?

Btw, I'm not an American, don't ask me why your government doesn't do things.
gollum
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 12:05 pm
@izzythepush,
I would issue U.S. citizenship to each person born in the U.S.

I would revoke the citizenship of those persons who accepted foreign citizenship or served in the Armed forces of another country.

I was not aware that you were not American.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 12:25 pm
@gollum,
And what are you doing about it?
gollum
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 12:46 pm
@izzythepush,
I don't understand.

What should I do?
Mame
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2022 12:50 pm
@gollum,
I think what he's getting at is to stop complaining about something and take action. Get involved. Make a change.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2022 08:15 am
@Mame,
It's not just the complaining, it's the daft questions that lack all credibility.

Someone once said that there's no such thing as a stupid question. I would disagree.
Mame
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2022 11:37 am
@izzythepush,
How are you feeling today after yesterday's game? It's the only one I watched. Canada was never expected to get very far.
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