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Putin's war

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 08:33 am
@Glennn,
They're not buying oil and gas from Saudi Arabia.

They're buying it from Russia.

Why is it so difficult for you to grasp this simple fact?
Glennn
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 08:51 am
@izzythepush,
Oh, I thought you were in agreement with another poster who does not believe that the petrodollar agreement forced countries to purchase oil with U.S. dollars only. Very well, then.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 31 Mar, 2022 09:02 am
@Glennn,
You seem to have a problem understanding basic English and what membership of an organisation entails.

The Petrollar only applies to OPEC members.

So oil producing countries like Russia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Equatorial Guinea, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Mexico, Oman, Sudan, South Sudan, Brazil and Bolivia who are NOT members of OPEC, are under no obligation to use US dollars.

They can use whatever currency they like.

You are delusional in that you believe the EU pays for its Russian, non OPEC, oil and gas with US dollars.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 09:03 am
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:
the petrodollar agreement forced countries to purchase oil with U.S. dollars only.
Germany pays the oil imports from Russia in Euros, Norway and the UK, in second and third place for imported oil, are paid in pounds sterling and Norwegian Kroner respectively.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 09:29 am
EU antitrust investigators have raided the German offices of Gazprom, on suspicion that the Russian energy giant had illegally pushed up prices in Europe.

Investigators from the EU Commission have searched several companies in Germany following allegations against the Russian energy company Gazprom. There are fears that the companies may have abused their dominant position in the market, the Brussels authority responsible for compliance with EU competition law announced. The companies concerned are those that do business with long-distance pipelines or with the supply or storage of natural gas. Officials of the Federal Cartel Office were also present during the inspections.

The Commission did not comment on the results of the inspections, which took place on Tuesday, or on the names of the companies concerned. "The fact that the Commission carries out such inspections does not mean that the companies have behaved in an anti-competitive manner, nor does it prejudge the outcome of the investigation," the statement said. Unannounced inspections are only a first investigative step, it added. The Gazprom Group's subsidiaries in Germany include Gazprom Germania, which is active in gas trading and storage, and the gas supplier Wingas.

EU press release: Antitrust: Commission confirms unannounced inspections in the natural gas sector in Germany
bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 09:43 am
GLEN:


Almost every blinking thing on this planet is done with or through the dollar.

Offer 90% of this planet the choice between dollars and any other currency: which will they almost always take??? Offer a Moscow cabbie dollars or Roubles - I know which one they want. Why do you think Castro allowed Havanans the ability to offer cooking from their home as long as they sold in dollars. Because Cuba was using dollars to trade on a world market after the Soviet Union cut their welfare off. A lot of remittance checks from the US help build this pile of dollars.

It's not any official King Dollar decree: it's the fact the US pays it debts, maintains its economy with a light but firm and consistent policy regardless of who's in or who's out of office. Why wouldn't an economy larger than any numbers of other combined be the dominate currency?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 09:57 am
Russia expands list of EU leadership banned from entry.

Russia's Foreign Ministry said on Thursday it will be expanding its list of EU figures banned from entering the country in response to sanctions imposed on Moscow over its military actions in Ukraine."The restrictions apply to the top leadership of the European Union including a number of European commissioners and heads of EU military structures as well as the vast majority of members of the European Parliament promoting anti-Russian policies," the ministry said in a statement. (AFP)
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 10:24 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I wouldn't recommend offering US dollars to a London cabbie, if they do accept them they will give you the worst exchange rate on the planet.
hightor
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 10:54 am
Russian Troops Suffer ‘Acute Radiation Sickness’ After Digging Chernobyl Trenches
bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 01:39 pm
@hightor,
Absolutely gob smacking. These guys were sacrificial. The Russians, of all people know what the dangers were and are.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 01:42 pm
@izzythepush,
There's a different dynamic in this situation.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 01:49 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I hope the will to push this is strong enough to make a complete investigation. It'd never fly in the US, the Oil Corporations are as slick as Gazprom and they share a lot of board members between each other and Gazprom. We have foxes in our henhouse. Good for the German government and regulations.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 01:51 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Why is it so difficult for you to grasp this simple fact?


Because the facts are inconvenient for his argument.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 02:00 pm
@Glennn,
No one here believes you have a clue.

Here's what you believe what your talking about. It's just that you got it wrong. Yet once again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_recycling

I'd ask you to read it, but who are we kidding? You will not.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 02:10 pm
@Glennn,
Up to the 90's maybe. We're 35+ years past that.

https://www.michaeljournal.org/images/articles/324/saddam-hussein-and-donald-rumsfeld.jpg

Some things have changed since then.
Builder
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 03:48 pm
Looks like India isn't shy when it comes to scoring an oil bargain.

I don't think they're using euros, Walter?

I guess the "great risk" means "if you're not with us, you're against us" like they did with Pakistan.

source

Quote:
A significant increase in Russian oil imports by India could expose New Delhi to a “great risk” as the US prepares to step up enforcement of sanctions against Moscow for its invasion of Ukraine, a senior official in Washington said.

While US sanctions against Russia do not prevent other countries from buying Russian oil, the warning raises expectations that Washington will attempt to restrict other countries’ purchases to normal levels.

The US official’s comment comes ahead of Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov’s two-day visit to New Delhi and during the visit of US deputy national security adviser for economics Daleep Singh.

Refiners in India, the world’s third biggest oil importer and consumer, have been snapping up Russian oil through spot tenders since the war broke out on February 24, taking advantage of deep discounts as other buyers back away.

India has purchased at least 13 million barrels of Russian oil since the invasion began, compared with nearly 16 million barrels in all of 2021.

Builder
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 03:55 pm
Looks like Warren Buffet sees the writing on the wall.

Crypto never looked so good.

source

Quote:
The sanctions placed on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine could erode the dominance of the US dollar and spur the adoption of digital currencies, according to a top IMF official.

Stringent Western financial sanctions have frozen much of Russia's foreign assets and hit its ability to trade. While that has underlined the dollar's power as the dominant global reserve currency, it has also been a wake-up call for countries about relying on it too heavily.

Gita Gopinath, first deputy managing director at the IMF, said there are signs some countries are already renegotiating the currency they are paid in for international trade.

"The dollar would remain the major global currency even in that landscape, but fragmentation at a smaller level is certainly quite possible," Gopinath told the Financial Times in an interview published Thursday.

Small currency blocs between some trade partners are starting to emerge, she added.

As countries accumulate reserves in the currencies they use for trade, these will take on a bigger role, which will dilute the dominance of the dollar.

The US currency's clout has already waned over the last two decades, and its share of international reserves has fallen from 70% to 60%, according to the IMF official. Australia's dollar and China's yuan, in particular, have made inroads as trading currencies.

More than 70 central banks hold some yuan as a reserve currency, and many African countries and some in the Middle East regularly use the Chinese currency for transactions, according to Baizhu Chen, professor of clinical finance and business economics at the University of Southern California.
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Glennn
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 05:16 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Up to the 90's maybe. We're 35+ years past that.

Why did you address this to me? This is reminiscent of you claiming I've never spoken up about certain things, only to have me show you that I did. Stay aware of your surroundings.

But yeah, Saddam was our buddy, until he decided to exit the petrodollar arrangement.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 05:49 pm
@Builder,
Anyone who's comparing Rupees to Dollars against Rubles is naive.

I think you have no clue regarding exchange rates.

Which would you rather have Euros/Dollars or Rubles/Rupees?

So Russia gave a deal to a third world - Rupees are trading 1 to 1.12 Rubles,
about US $0.11.

We'll see how Putin feels about soft currency trading with soft currency over hard western currency in a couple of weeks. It will not be a clever topper for Putin. That oil India isn't burning from other sources because India is burning cheap Russian oil will pay off for us: giving the West more oil to sell Germany, for example.

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Mar, 2022 05:55 pm
@Builder,
Quote:

India has purchased at least 13 million barrels of Russian oil since the invasion began, compared with nearly 16 million barrels in all of 2021.


Whoo hoooo, 13 billion barrels to sell to Germany!!!

I hope the Russians sell oil to every third world nation!!!!

Thankyou Putin for helping us make NATO Putin oil free!!!
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