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Putin's war

 
 
Lash
 
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Sat 19 Mar, 2022 09:43 am
Lash wrote: If the US loses the petrodollar economy, it is end times shitscapery.
thack45
 
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Sat 19 Mar, 2022 11:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

“If you take the United States, only Fox News is trying to present some alternative point of view,” he said.


It's quite something that he can so confidently assume an acceptance that news information = "point of view". It's as though there is a sense that this is a given, and even those who might consider themselves freethinkers would not object to or even notice it.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 19 Mar, 2022 02:27 pm
https://twitter.com/midlifewomanon1/status/1505184737178132482

This is a video of a captured Russian soldier calling his wife asking for help to get him home by POW exchange. His entire battalion was killed and in the video he says “they (Russian military leadership) is killing their wounded
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Builder
 
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Sat 19 Mar, 2022 03:54 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Lash wrote: If the US loses the petrodollar economy, it is end times shitscapery.


Pretty sure China wised up to the "shitscapery" during the orchestrated GFC in 2007-8. If you were honest about what has happened since then, you'd be aware that the federal reserve is at a complete loss as to what to do next.

Propping up Wall street hasn't solved anything, and those bonds they've been creating, and buying at a loss, will eventually mature. The ponzi scheme is there for all to see, and China has been refusing US treasury bonds for almost 15 years now.

Arab nations are looking to alternatives to SWIFT, including "ripple" meaning XRP as a viable currency for international exchange. It's every bit as viable and palpable, as creating US dollars out of paper to flood the markets.

How the collapse will affect other western nations, is yet to be seen, but Australia's treasurer is talking "emergency" payments, to help with rapidly increasing costs of living. It's election time, so he's probably just buying votes, though. Our deficit is at record highs.
Builder
 
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Sat 19 Mar, 2022 06:42 pm
@Builder,
As an aside, Westpac and NAB (national Australia bank) are both shaping up to jump on the XRP bandwagon. Very interesting times.

On advice a few months back, I swapped several crypto holdings into XRP, and moved them into a secure wallet arrangement.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 20 Mar, 2022 03:01 pm
Russia’s war for Ukraine could be headed toward stalemate

Casualties, equipment losses and a lack of progress on the ground are taking an unsustainable toll, experts say

By Liz Sly
and
Dan Lamothe

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/20/russia-ukraine-military-offensive/

Russia’s attempt to conquer Ukraine could be headed toward a stalemate as heavy casualties and equipment losses take a toll on unprepared Russian forces that have failed so far to achieve any of their initial objectives, Western officials and military experts say.

The front lines have barely moved in more than a week. Russians are being killed or injured at the rate of up to 1,000 a day, according to Western intelligence estimates, and even more according to Ukrainian ones.

Videos of burned-out tanks and abandoned convoys stream constantly on Ukrainian social media accounts, alongside footage of dead Russian soldiers, surrendering Russian soldiers, hungry Russian soldiers stealing chickens from local farmers — and, increasingly, the mangled bodies of Ukrainian civilians dying in missile and artillery attacks.

The ferocity of the Russian assault has only intensified as the advances have slowed, with Russia substituting harsh bombardments of civilian populations for progress on the battlefield. Regular Ukrainians living in cities surrounded, or partially surrounded, by Russian troops are paying the price for a war effort that began to go wrong in the first hours.

But in the absence of substantive progress on the ground and given the scale of the losses being inflicted on its ranks, Russia’s military campaign could soon become unsustainable, with troops unable to advance because they lack sufficient manpower, supplies and munitions, analysts and officials say.

The next two weeks could be critical in determining the outcome of the entire war, they say. Unless Russia can swiftly improve its supply lines, bring reinforcements and bolster the flagging morale of the troops on the ground, its goals may become impossible to achieve.

“I don’t think Ukraine forces can push Russian forces out of Ukraine, but I also don’t think Russian forces can take that much more of Ukraine,” said Rob Lee, a former U.S. Marine who is now a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute.

An assessment Saturday by the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) went further. “Ukrainian forces have defeated the initial Russian campaign of this war,” it said. The conflict, it said, has now reached “a stalemate.”

Events on the battlefield could yet tilt in a different direction: for example, if the Russians succeed in capturing the besieged and desperate city of Mariupol, freeing up their forces to bolster their offensive elsewhere.

But in a widely shared March 14 article, a retired U.S. general and a European military academic argue that the Russian force is close to reaching what military strategists call the “culminating point” of its offensive, meaning that it will have reached the limits of its capacity to wage the war it set out to prosecute.

“The Russian war of conquest in Ukraine is now entering a critical phase; a race to reach the culminating point of Russia’s offensive capacity and Ukraine’s defensive capacity,” wrote retired Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges and Julian Lindley-French, who chairs the Alphen Group think tank in the Netherlands. They advocate a sustained effort by the United States and its allies to provide military supplies to Ukraine in hopes that Ukrainian forces can take advantage of this “window of opportunity” to win concessions at the negotiating table.

“I believe that Russia does not have the time, manpower or ammunition to sustain what they are doing now,” Hodges, who is now with the Washington-based Center for European Policy Analysis, said in an interview. The assessment assumes, he says, that the West continues to step up military support for Ukraine, thereby enabling Ukrainian forces to sustain the tempo of their resistance.

The Russian military still has overwhelming superiority in terms of numbers and equipment compared with the smaller and more lightly armed Ukrainian military. Russia could yet turn the fight around if it is able to replenish its manpower and supplies, cautioned Lindley-French.

“It would be a big mistake to think that Russia cannot sustain this war,” he said. “They can’t now, but they could fix it” by adjusting tactics and bringing in reinforcements.
Pro-Russian service members drive an armored vehicle through the besieged southern port city of Mariupol, Ukraine, on March 19. (Reuters)

However, he added, “Unless the Russians can really improve their game and start rotating [troop] formations into the front line, this particular force is facing a problem.”
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U.S. officials decline to make public predictions about the course of the war but say there are clear indications that the Russians are struggling to sustain the existing forces they have and are scrambling to find reinforcements and resolve their logistical difficulties.

Appeals to China for military assistance, a so far fruitless attempt to recruit Syrians and talk of bringing in reinforcements from other parts of Russia and the breakaway territory of South Ossetia in Georgia have not yet produced evidence that fresh troops are on the way, the officials say.
How Ukraine’s child refugees are coping with the trauma of war
More than 3 million people have been forced to flee Ukraine; more than half are children. Their parents are trying to explain the war to them. (Zoeann Murphy/The Washington Post)

“Just that they’re talking about resupply and re-sourcing tells you they are beginning to get concerned about longevity here,” said a senior U.S. Defense Department official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive subjects.
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“It’s quite extraordinary, three weeks in, that they are still having these same logistical and sustainment issues, and that they are considering additional ways to overcome these shortages from outside Ukraine,” the official added.

The war in Ukraine isn’t working out the way Russia intended

The Russian troops that initially surged into Ukraine from at least four directions had expected to be welcomed as liberators and came unprepared for a long fight, officials and experts say. Instead, the Russians encountered fierce resistance, and now they are strung out along multiple fronts, bogged down in manpower-intensive sieges and without preplanned supply lines to sustain a protracted war, the officials and experts say.

The current map of the battlefield points to the scale of the difficulties, Lee said.

It was clear from the way Russian forces moved in the first hours of the war, he said, that their key objectives were to take Ukraine’s second-largest city of Kharkiv, link up the occupied Donbas region with the port city of Odessa along Ukraine’s southern coast, and — most crucially — capture the capital, Kyiv, with a lightning push from the north.

They have failed to fully encircle the northeastern city of Kharkiv, even though it lies just a few miles from the Russian border. Their push to take the port city of Odessa has been halted by fierce Ukrainian resistance at the gates of Mykolaiv. Their effort to link the Russian-annexed territory of Crimea has become ensnared by the grinding and increasingly bloody siege of Mariupol.

Evacuees from besieged Mariupol describe horrors of Russian attacks

The Russians have been making gains in the east, in the oblasts of Luhansk and Donetsk, which Russia recognized as independent republics on the eve of the war and which have been partially occupied by Russian-backed forces since 2014. But those advances fall far short of the initial ambitious goal of the invasion.

The Russians’ hopes of encircling Kyiv, let alone capturing it, are starting to recede, Lee said. Russian forces remain stuck about 15 miles outside the city, and though U.S. officials say Russia is moving rear forces toward the front in anticipation of a renewed push on the capital, the front line hasn’t shifted.

Meanwhile, Russians are dying at a rate that is increasingly unsustainable, Lee said. Although Russia still has vast reserves of manpower, it has already committed the bulk of its combat-ready forces, and they are the ones that are almost certainly bearing the brunt of the casualties, he said.

There are no confirmed casualty figures, and Russia has not updated the figure of 498 dead that it announced a week into the war. But of the Russian army’s 168 battalion tactical groups, 120 are already fighting on the ground, making up about 100,000 soldiers out of the total 190,000 sent into Ukraine. That means Russia has already committed 75 percent of its combat-ready force, U.S. officials say.
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Western intelligence estimates say it is likely that at least 7,000 Russians have been killed and as many as 20,000 injured, and assuming that the combat forces are bearing the brunt of the casualties, that could mean up to a third of the main combat force is now out of action, Lee said.

“That’s a huge loss, and you can’t readily replace that,” he said. Russia can bring in new conscripts or call up more reservists, but that will dilute the capabilities of the overall force, “and that is not in Russia’s interest,” he said.
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Ukrainian forces have been taking casualties, too, though how many isn’t publicly known because they also have not released any numbers. The longer the war drags on, the more perilous their position will become, too, and the greater the chance that Russia will overcome its initial mistakes, said Jack Watling of the London-based Royal United Services Institute.
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But, he noted, the Ukrainian forces appear to remain highly motivated, while there are clear signs that morale continues to diminish among the Russian troops, he said. Russian forces continue to surrender, abandon their vehicles and show few signs of initiative in the areas they do control, signs “that this is not a force that is well motivated,” he said.

As Russia’s offensive capabilities slow, the risk is high that civilian casualties will mount. A stalemate is likely to become “very violent and bloody,” the ISW assessment said, because Russian troops are more likely to rely on the bombardment of cities to apply pressure.

There are signs that Russia is running out of precision missiles, U.S. officials say, which means Russian forces will also increasingly resort to the use of “dumb bombs” indiscriminately dropped on civilian areas in an effort to cow them into submission.

Ukraine is unlikely to have the capacity to push Russia out of the territory it has taken so far, officials and analysts say. But the Russians’ current difficulties open up the possibility that the Ukrainians could at least fight them to a standstill, thereby exerting pressure on Russia to accept a negotiated solution.

Mixed signals from Ukraine’s president and his aides leave West confused about his endgame

The main question now has shifted from how long it would take the Russians to conquer Ukraine to “can Ukraine fight Russia to a stalemate?” said a Western official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “They’re doing pretty well at the moment.”

“The next two weeks are going to be pretty decisive,” Watling said. The war won’t be over in two weeks, he predicted, and all the signals from Moscow suggest the Russians are more likely to double down than climb down, making the war more deadly for Ukrainians even as it moves at a slower pace.

“The odds are stacked heavily in the Russians’ favor. This is their war to lose. The reason they are not achieving their objective is largely about their own incompetence, their lack of coordination,” he said.

“What this really comes down to is whether the Russians are going to get their act together.”
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snood
 
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Sun 20 Mar, 2022 03:13 pm
@thack45,
thack45 wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

“If you take the United States, only Fox News is trying to present some alternative point of view,” he said.


It's quite something that he can so confidently assume an acceptance that news information = "point of view". It's as though there is a sense that this is a given, and even those who might consider themselves freethinkers would not object to or even notice it.


This is the curse of the age of Trump, fake news, and alternate facts.

I had a brief, heated ( brief because it was so heated) exchange with one acquaintance who I suspect is a closeted MAGAT. I said something about him being uncomfortable with the truth of a matter. He retorted that he was uncomfortable with “your” (meaning ‘my’) truth. Implying that EVERYTHING is relative, and there are two sides to EVERY thing (I think the ‘thing’ at issue was the latest video of an unarmed black man being shot by a white policeman).

Some things simply are, or they are not. Right wingers are loathe to accept a whole lot of that.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 20 Mar, 2022 03:14 pm
https://i.imgur.com/JuO7Pp1.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 21 Mar, 2022 06:31 am
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 21 Mar, 2022 07:00 am
In Germany, police are warning of a fake video on the internet depicting an alleged crime committed by Ukrainians in Euskirchen, North Rhine-Westphalia.
"A video is currently being circulated on the internet reporting an assault on a 16-year-old youth in the Euskirchen area. The latter was beaten to death by a group of Ukrainians," the Bonn police announced on Twitter on Sunday evening. It went on to say: "Experts assume that this is a deliberate 'fake video' intended to incite hatred."

The clip features a woman. She reports in Russian that she heard about the alleged incident at Euskirchen station from a friend.

"The Bonn police, who are responsible for capital crimes in the Euskirchen area, have no information about such a violent assault or even about a death," the police further inform. "The Bonn police's state security department has taken up the investigation."

Twitter Police NRW Bonn
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 21 Mar, 2022 07:34 am
Ukrainian troops destroyed three Russian shock armies, one air army - Arestovych
21.03.2022

The Ukrainian army destroyed four out of ten Russian armies as operational and strategic units on Ukrainian territory during 26 days of a full-scale war.

Oleksiy Arestovych, an adviser to the head of the Ukrainian President's Office, said this at a briefing, according to an Ukrinform correspondent.

"On Day 26 of the active phase of the Russian-Ukrainian war, our troops destroyed 11 tank battalions, 34 battalions of armored fighting vehicles, five divisions of multiple rocket launchers, 17 divisions of artillery, almost five air regiments, five helicopter regiments. This is a total of three sets of Russian shock armies as operational and strategic units. That is, we destroyed three Russian shock armies and one air army - four out of the ten armies in the Russian Federation," Arestovych said.

He also noted that the country's military and political leadership is in control of the situation. According to him, the enemy has almost lost the ability to advance anywhere in Ukraine and they conduct only tactical actions and accumulate reserves, which are subjected to devastating blows from the Ukrainian missile forces, artillery and aircraft.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3435857-ukrainian-troops-destroyed-three-russian-shock-armies-one-air-army-arestovych.html
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Mon 21 Mar, 2022 07:39 am
Why Russian tankers are dying dying at such a high rate

https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/status/1505890299163381764

Mark Hertling
Mark Phillip Hertling is a former United States Army officer. From March 2011 to November 2012, he served as the Commanding General of United States Army Europe and the Seventh Army. Hertling served in Armor, Cavalry, planning, operations and training positions, and commanded every organization from Platoon to Field Army.Wikipedia
Born:September 29, 1953, St. Louis, Missouri
Allegiance:United States
Service/branch:United States Army

Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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RU is likely sustaining more, based on reports of kills, their lack of casualty evacuation & an apparent lack of combat medical systems (has anyone seen a red cross painted on ANY RU vehicles yet?).

But their casualties are also due to how they fight. Here's why. 11/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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Look at films of UKR ambushing RU columns.

Every UKR soldier/territorial has some type of anti-tank (AT) weapon slung over their shoulder.

Every UKR soldier is a RU armored vehicle/truck killer. 12/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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If a UKR squad ambushes a RU column, each soldier with 1 AT missile engages 1 vehicle, and.

-A RU tanks has a 3-man crew (they have auto-loaders instead of 4 crewmember, like us).
-A RU BMP has a driver, a vehicle commander, and a squad.
-RU Artillery has 5-10 crew members. 13/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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A seque: in 1994, as a Squadron Commander, I was part of a "Partnership for Peace" delegation to Moscow.

The RU's knew I was a tanker, and allowed me to see their newest tank, the T80. I climbed inside...& quickly understood why they recruited only "short" tankers. 14/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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It was cramped, tank rounds were visible (ours are behind ballistic doors to protect the crew if the tank is hit), armor on the top & rear was light, and there were blind spots preventing the crew from seeing outside.

They thought it was a great tank. Me...not so much. 15/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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Now, I share all this to say:

RU tanks are matchboxes.
-crews have a hard time seeing attacking infantry
-there is no reactive armor on top (where Javelins strike)
-if hit, they'll burn, with secondary explosions
-if hit, the crew will have a tough time getting out. 16/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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BMPs/BRDMs/BTRs are actually worse.

In Desert Storm, we saw these vehicles after they were hit, and most were destroyed by smaller caliber weapons....and all burned. Their fuel tanks are in the back doors...so they burn, fast and hot, and crews can't get out. 17/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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Russian Fuel, Ammo, and supply (medical, parts, etc) trucks are all the same design.

And from what I saw on exercises, RU troops pack as much as they can in each truck, sometimes mixing cargo.

Not good for crew survivability, if the truck is hit. 18/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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Now, back to the UKR infantryman with a Javelin versus a RU tank...or BMP...or truck. It's easy to see who has the advantage in a Javelin fight.

Especially when the RUs are road-bound, not being able to maneuver due to the UKR weather & "rasputitsa" (mud...like a bog). 19/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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Add to all this UKR's ability to block roads and create ambushes.

That 40 mile column everyone was hyped about? Vehicles couldn't go forward due to a lack of success by the RU force & it couldn't go back because UKR forces blocked the roads.

UKR got around to it.20/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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BTW, in that column were medical supplies. And medical trucks with other types of supplies.

Losing those put a damper on treating & evacuating the RU wounded. 21/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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Summary:

In this thread I've not mentioned # of RU casualties. There are many estimates, but I'll just say...I suspect they're higher than any estimates.

I've also not mentioned the 5 RU generals reportedly killed...I believe that happened, but not all are confirmed. 22/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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I've also not mentioned the UKR casualties, because there's been no release of numbers.

I'm sure they're high, but also likely significantly less than the RU #.

As UKR soldiers have been taught first aid, Combat Lifesaver techniques & the importance of medical evacuation. 23/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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One last thing;

Casualties in war are gory. Deaths affect soldiers & units in ways most can't imagine.

Combat deaths are ugly. Those killed are mostly 18-24 yr olds who had an entire life in front of them. Their bodies are savaged or burned beyond recognition. 24/
Mark Hertling
@MarkHertling
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That's why most soldiers who have seen war never want to see it again.

And why some professional soldiers do all they can to prevent wars in the future, with an understanding of what is at stake.

And why Putin's illegal & criminal war in Ukraine is such an abomination. 25/25
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 21 Mar, 2022 10:06 am
The fact that the world has learned about the horrific events of the past weeks in Mariupol is partly thanks to two Ukrainian photojournalists from the AP news agency. For over two weeks, Mstyslav Chernov and Evgeniy Maloletka captured the atrocities in the metropolis besieged by Russian troops in dramatic images.

They were the only international journalists in a city that was de facto cut off from the outside world. For weeks, hundreds of thousands of people in Mariupol have been without electricity, water and gas. Many have fled in the meantime.

Since last week, Chernov and Maloletka are also no longer in Mariupol - apparently because Russian troops were chasing them. In an article published on the website of the news agency AP, Chernov describes the spectacular escape from a city under constant fire.

20 days in Maripul: the team that documented city's agony
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 21 Mar, 2022 11:05 am
The Russian-Japanese territorial dispute over the Kuril Islands has apparently intensified in view of the war in Ukraine. As the Reuters news agency reports, the Russian government is withdrawing from negotiations on a peace treaty, which has not existed since the end of the Second World War. The reason Moscow gives is that Japan supports sanctions against Russia because of the war in Ukraine.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 21 Mar, 2022 11:46 am
Ukrainian punk rock Breton have released a version of The Clash's London Calling with permission. It has new Lyrics, now it's Kyiv Calling and the video depicts resistance workers in Ukraine, with all proceeds going to the Ukrainian resistance.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 21 Mar, 2022 01:02 pm
He survived four German concentration camps (Buchenwald, Peenemünde, Dora and Bergen-Belsen) - now the well-known eyewitness Boris Romantschenko has died from Russian bombs on the multi-storey building in Kharkiv in which he lived.

On 12 April 2015, on the roll call square of Buchenwald concentration camp, he spoke the Oath of Buchenwald in Russian: "Наш идеал - построить новый мира и свободы" ("Building a new world of peace and freedom is our ideal").

The Kremlin justifies its war by "denazifying" Ukraine.

focus.ua
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 21 Mar, 2022 01:09 pm
@izzythepush,
It looks like the Clash are no longer the only band that matters.
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izzythepush
 
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Tue 22 Mar, 2022 05:24 am
Prominent Putin critic Alexei Navalny has been found guilty of corruption in a sham trial.

His spokesperson Kira Yarmish said that while the world's attention is on Ukraine, "another monstrous crime was being committed inside of Russia."
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hightor
 
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Tue 22 Mar, 2022 05:30 am
The American Pundits Who Can’t Resist “Westsplaining” Ukraine

John Mearsheimer and other foreign policy figures are treating Russia’s invasion of Ukraine like a game of Risk.

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War is hell for anyone in it. And it’s a predictable but regrettable call to arms for people with opinions who aren’t. Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on February 24, as the fighting on the ground has escalated, so has the volley of opinions about the war. And for Eastern European scholars like us, it’s galling to watch the unending stream of Western scholars and pundits condescend to explain the situation in Ukraine and Eastern Europe, often in ways that either ignore voices from the region, treating it as an object rather than a subject of history, or claiming to perfectly understand Russian logic and motives. Eastern European online circles have started using a new term to describe this phenomenon of people from the Anglosphere loudly foisting their analytical schema and political prescriptions onto the region: westsplaining. And the problem with westsplaining is illustrated particularly well when pundits westsplain the role of the eastward expansion of NATO in triggering Russia’s attack.

Eastern Europe is maddeningly complex. It doesn’t even have a clear definition: Spanning from the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania down (depending on whom you ask) through Poland, Belarus, Slovakia, Czechia, and Hungary, then east to encompass Moldova, and south to Romania and Bulgaria, and perhaps taking in other countries, the region has little to give it cohesion. It’s not unified culturally, religiously, linguistically, racially, politically, or even geographically (Greece and Finland are further east but never get included in the category, Georgia is discontiguous from the others and yet is often counted, and Ukraine’s conceptual membership and very existence are at stake in the current conflict).

If anything unites the region, it is its historically unfortunate location as the plaything of empires, its borders and definitions made and remade over the centuries, most recently through its emergence from the collapse of the USSR. The defining geopolitical feature of the region is that it is defined from the outside. As the Polish linguist Piotr Twardzisz puts it, “There is relatively little of Eastern Europe in Eastern Europe itself. There is more of it in Western Europe, or in the West, generally.”

In the past week, westsplainers on American televisions and in American opinion pages have suggested that NATO, by allowing in Eastern European countries as members, has driven Putin to lash out like a cornered animal. The story goes more or less like this: After the breakup of the Soviet Union, NATO promised Russia it would not expand. But in 1997 it nonetheless expanded. In 2007, ignoring Russian complaints, it opened the way for expansion into Georgia and Ukraine. Russia was forced to react, hence its invasion and occupation of Georgia that year. Later, when the U.S.-sponsored protests deposed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych for abandoning the country’s pro-Western course, Putin again reacted, this time invading and occupying Donbass and Crimea in 2014. And now he is trying to take over Ukraine to head off American influence in the region.

This story isn’t surprising, coming from so-called realist international relations scholars intellectually forged during the Cold War. The University of Chicago’s John Mearsheimer, for instance, recently claimed in The New Yorker that NATO’s expansion was perceived as a security threat, eliciting a lethal response. To Mearsheimer’s credit, he admits that great powers are predators ensuring that their smaller neighbors are not free to pursue policies of their own choice. But on this reading, it is NATO’s fault, driven primarily by America’s interest in expanding its sphere of influence, that Russia has lashed out, seeking to protect its own sphere of influence. This isn’t a novel view: It’s the position Putin himself laid out in a speech to the Munich Security Conference in 2007.

The prescriptive implications of this position are clear: NATO should cease its efforts to woo countries like Ukraine, and countries like Ukraine should give up any aspirations of becoming members of NATO or potentially the European Union if they want to survive as states. In other words, Eastern European countries should recognize their status as second-class citizens in the community of states and accept their geopolitical role as neutral buffers at the edges of the vestiges of the American and Russian empires.

In recent weeks, this argument has caught on across the political spectrum. It has made bedfellows of Ted Galen Carpenter of the libertarian Cato Institute and the seminal German leftist intellectual Wolfgang Streeck, who wrote that “the war over Ukraine” exploded out of the “uncompromising brinkmanship on the part of both the U.S. and Russia.” (War over Ukraine? Given that the only combatants on the ground are Russian invaders and Ukrainian defenders, the implication that this is a battle between the U.S. and Russia over influence is ridiculous.) It has united the economist Jeffrey Sachs, apparently cured of his intoxication with neoliberalism but not from telling Eastern Europeans what to do, and Greek anti-neoliberal politician Yannis Varoufakis. Fox News’s Tucker Carlson and progressive economist Mariana Mazzucatto both likened the situation to China convincing Mexico to join an anti-American security alliance. The Guardian’s populist columnist Owen Jones suggested that the war could have been avoided had there “been an attempt to craft a neutral buffer zone after the Cold War.” (The tweet in question has since been deleted, and Jones apologized for ignoring the rights of the people living in said zone and “sounding like an imperialist playing Risk with the people of Europe.”) The implication is also there in a tone-deaf statement released by the Democratic Socialists of America that called for an end to the war but blamed “imperialist expansionism” for leading to it.

Leftists in particular may think, when criticizing NATO expansion, that they are correcting their own or fellow citizens’ biases as citizens of an imperial power that has often acted in bad faith. They may think they are adequately acknowledging this fraught legacy by focusing their critique on what they perceive to be Western expansionism. But they in fact perpetuate imperial wrongs when they continue to deny non-Western countries and their citizens agency in geopolitics. Paradoxically, the problem with American exceptionalism is that even those who challenge its foundational tenets and heap scorn on American militarism often end up recreating American exceptionalism by centering the United States in their analyses of international relations. It is, in Gregory Afinogenov’s words, a “form of provincialism that sees only the United States and its allies as primary actors.” Speaking about Eastern Europe and Eastern Europeans without listening to local voices or trying to understand the region’s complexity is a colonial projection. Here the issue of NATO is particularly telling.

There is, of course, plenty to criticize about NATO and American foreign policy, not least the bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999. As The New Yorker’s Masha Gessen points out, this has been used by Putin to justify his expansionism. But by focusing almost exclusively on the wrongs of NATO, critics ignore the broader question of Eastern European states’ right to self-determination, including the right to join military alliances. Westsplaining ignores Eastern European history and the perspective of the Eastern Europeans, and it selectively omits facts on the ground about NATO expansion.

As much as U.S. militarism and imperialism should be criticized, it has to be acknowledged that in Eastern Europe it is not the U.S. or NATO who have been an existential threat. In the twentieth century the formative experience for the countries of the region was direct and indirect Soviet control. States like Hungary, Czechoslovakia, or Poland, although nominally independent, were not free to pursue their own policy—either domestic or foreign. Hungary and Czechoslovakia were invaded by the Soviet Union when they tried to steer off the Moscow-prescribed course. Poland’s Soviet-imposed authorities brutally repressed popular protests in 1956, twice in the 1970s, and in 1981. Ukraine didn’t even have the luxury of formal independence and for their opposition to forced collectivization, Ukrainians paid a dear price: Holodomor, the deliberately engineered famine, killed between three and 12 million people. Eastern European calls for NATO and EU membership stem from this historical experience of oppression. Any analysis that does not acknowledge it is doomed to be incomplete at best and false at worst.

This leads us to the second point: NATO did not expand into “Eastern Europe.” Czechia, Poland, and Hungary in 1999 and the Baltic countries among others in 2004 actively sought membership in the alliance. This is not just semantics. For the historical reasons mentioned above, the West has been a desired political direction associated with prosperity, democracy, and freedom—despite the limitations of Western liberal capitalist democracies and the implementation of that model in Eastern Europe. Being at the receiving end of Russian imperialism, many Eastern Europeans looked forward to membership in NATO as a means of securing their sovereignty. NATO, in other words, would not have “expanded” into Eastern Europe if the Eastern European nations had not wanted it and actively pursued it.

As 2020 Pew Research Center data show, Eastern European members generally see NATO favorably. Fifty-three percent of Czechs have a positive opinion about NATO, as do 77 percent of Lithuanians. NATO’s most enthusiastic supporters are Poles, with 88 percent supporting the alliance. Fifty-three percent of Ukrainians view NATO favorably, compared to 23 who view it negatively. This support, one might argue, as do some Eastern European critics, is misguided, shortsighted, and westphilic. But it is also undeniable, and undeniably shaped precisely by the fear of what is currently happening in Ukraine.

This is crucial when it comes to understanding the current war. However tempting it might be to analyze it in terms of a proxy war between NATO and Russia, Ukraine is an active participant in this historical process. After the breakup of the Soviet Union, Ukraine several times attempted to assert and defend its westward course, including in 2004 and in 2014, both times to great resistance on the part of the Kremlin. There is no point in denying that the West actively intervened in this. But so did Russia.

Some pundits might argue that while this history is tragic, it is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things: Whether imaginary or not, Russia has security concerns that the West should have taken seriously. Although the parsimony of this explanation might be tempting, logically it does not hold. Implicitly, it is based on a counterfactual scenario in which NATO is not enlarged and Russia does not attack Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014 and again in 2022. It fails at the same time to consider a different counterfactual scenario: NATO enlargement does not happen, and Russia invades its neighbors nonetheless. We cannot know what would have happened.

In the westsplaining framework, the concerns of Russia are recognized but those of Eastern Europe are not. This, again, mirrors the Russian line that “Ukraine’s current regime lacks any sovereignty,” which of course also operates within a framework inherited from the bipolar world of the Cold War. Eastern Europe is something that can be explained but isn’t worth engaging with.

If the westsplainers were to engage in intellectually honest critique of NATO and its expansion and therefore of the war in Ukraine, they would have to, by extension, critique Eastern European politicians and voters who have adopted (although in some cases, like Poland and Hungary, quite spottily) the Western ideals of democracy and national self-determination. They would have to acknowledge that their ideas for how to end the conflict—vague calls for diplomacy or even opposition to NATO, even as Ukrainians on the ground call for active support—may represent American preferences for avoiding conflict or opposing NATO rather than those of Ukrainians.

The result is that hard-nosed realists see the world not as it is but as it appears in their theories and, worse, that Western internationalism, which claims to stand in solidarity with the oppressed, does the opposite: It asks the subaltern to speak, only to ignore them when they ask for military support or self-determination.

Of course, there is no single Eastern European voice and we do not pretend to ventriloquize it. Nor do we offer our own prescriptions; better ones than we could offer have already been given by the Ukrainian, Lithuanian, and Polish left. But any analysis of the current conflict needs to get past a framework that only gives voice and agency to the West and to Russia and start listening to Eastern Europeans, especially since it is Eastern Europe that will be dealing with the repercussions of the current war for years to come.

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Tue 22 Mar, 2022 06:59 am
A super yacht owned by Russian oligarch Dmitry Pumpyansky has been impounded in Gibraltar.

Another oligarch, Roman Abramovich, has managed to get two of his yachts into Turkey without going through EU waters.
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