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Putin's war

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 14 Mar, 2022 10:25 am
Trump’s rhetoric on Ukraine has shifted. His rhetoric on Putin hasn’t.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 14 Mar, 2022 10:52 am
A Russian-made unmanned aerial vehicle has crashed in northern Romania, according to local reports.
It is the second such incident within a few days in the Nato area.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 14 Mar, 2022 11:22 am
Red Molotov have brought out some pro Ukraine T shirts with all proceeds going to Ukrainian medical charities. I'm not spamming, if anyone wants one they can use google.

https://www.redmolotov.com/image/cache/catalog/designs/putin-khuylo-tshirt_design-400x400.jpg

https://www.redmolotov.com/image/catalog/designslarge/r/russian-warship-go-f-yourself-tshirt_blacktshirt.jpg

Russian warship go **** yourself.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 14 Mar, 2022 12:12 pm
After the UK, the EU has now also put the Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich on the sanctions list.
He is no longer allowed to enter the EU - as of this Tuesday.
Mame
 
  3  
Mon 14 Mar, 2022 03:42 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Interesting article on Abramovich, the Kremlin and corruption here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60736185
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Mame
 
  3  
Mon 14 Mar, 2022 10:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAlmmT4Un40

Nobody wants to shake Putin's hand Smile
Builder
 
  -3  
Tue 15 Mar, 2022 03:27 am
It's a chess game. Let's see how this pans out.

Quote:
Kristalina Georgieva, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, said Sunday that a Russian default is no longer "improbable".
"Russia has the money to service its debt, but cannot access it," she said during an interview on US network CBS.
Last week, Fitch Ratings downgraded Russian debt, saying Moscow's willingness and ability to service its debts has been undermined and default "is imminent."
The ratings agency also warned that Russia may attempt to repay creditors in specified countries in rubles.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Tue 15 Mar, 2022 04:02 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
It's a chess game.
However, in chess there are not thousands of dead, millions of refugees and totally destroyed cities and landscapes.
Builder
 
  -2  
Tue 15 Mar, 2022 04:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You mean, like in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Walter?

We're reliant on western media, at this point in time, for anything like a decent coverage of the situation in the Ukraine.

But we do know for certain, what the west has done to the nations I mentioned.

It was four million Iraqi refugees living rough on the outskirts of Syria, when Obama's thugs started their invasion of that sovereign nation.

Then he started on Libya. Apparently his "biggest regret", was not having a plan for the people of Libya, after he had their loved leader raped and murdered. Talk about rough justice. First ever black prez of the US, responsible for the shining light of North Africa, becoming a ghetto and slave trading post.

I bet he knew exactly what to do with Libya's massive gold stash, right?
hightor
 
  4  
Tue 15 Mar, 2022 04:57 am
@Builder,
Calm down, you're frothing at the mouth. BTW, since you're so concerned, did you ever see what your friend Putin did to Aleppo?
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 15 Mar, 2022 06:56 am
@Mame,
Quote:
Nobody wants to shake Putin's hand


They went out of their way to not shake his hand. And this is why: Trump Cooties ...

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.6Tc4AgUzDgqZPG7taL0-hQHaE7%26pid%3DApi&f=1
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 15 Mar, 2022 07:17 am
A protester storms a live broadcast on Russia’s most-watched news show, yelling, ‘Stop the war!’
Anton Troianovski
March 14, 2022, 5:39 p.m.




https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/world/europe/russian-protester-tv.html

A state television employee burst onto the live broadcast of Russia’s most-watched news show on Monday evening, yelling, “Stop the war!” and holding up a sign that said, “They’re lying to you here,” in an extraordinary act of protest against Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The woman, Marina Ovsyannikova, worked for Channel 1, the state-run television channel whose news broadcast she stormed, according to a Russian rights group that is giving her legal support. The group also released a video in which Ms. Ovsyannikova says she is “deeply ashamed” to have worked to produce “Kremlin propaganda.”

The news show, “Vremya,” is among the Kremlin’s flagship propaganda outlets, watched by millions of Russians every evening. The off-script intervention underscored how dissent is seeping into public consciousness in Russia, even after President Vladimir V. Putin has stifled opposition to the war and has enacted a law to punish anyone spreading whatever the government deems “false news” about its Ukraine invasion with up to 15 years in prison.

“We are Russian people, thinking and smart ones,” she said in the video she recorded, calling for Russians to protest against the war. “Only we have the power to stop all this craziness.”

On Monday evening, Ms. Ovsyannikova walked onto the set as the anchor was describing Russian talks with Belarus over how to soften the blow from Western sanctions, online videos show. She unfurled a sign with a Ukrainian and a Russian flag that said, in English, “No war” and “Russians against war.” In Russian, it said: “Stop the war. Don’t believe the propaganda. They’re lying to you here.”

The anchor Yekaterina Andreyeva, a veteran who has hosted the “Vremya” newscast for more than two decades, continued to read her script even as Ms. Ovsyannikova protested behind her. Within a few seconds, the show cut away from the set. Afterward, according to the Tass state news agency, Channel 1 said it was “investigating an incident with an outsider in the frame during a live broadcast.”

Ms. Ovsyannikova was detained after the protest and was being held at a small police station at Moscow’s Ostankino broadcasting center, according to OVD-Info, a human rights group that supports Russians detained for protesting. More details on her condition weren’t immediately available.

The moment went viral online in Russia, despite the Kremlin’s recent efforts to block dissent on the internet. Within hours, Ms. Ovsyannikova’s Facebook page had more than 26,000 comments, with many people thanking her or praising her for her bravery in Russian, English and Ukrainian.

Her protest followed Mr. Putin’s signing of a law earlier this month that effectively criminalizes any public opposition to or independent news reporting about the war. The law could make it a crime to simply call the war a “war” — the Kremlin says it is a “special military operation” — on social media or in a news article or broadcast. Underscoring journalists’ fears of the law, the independent newspaper Novaya Gazeta blurred out Ms. Ovsyannikova’s antiwar poster in a picture of the protest it posted on Twitter.

Since Mr Putin launched the invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, the government has also blocked access inside Russia to the websites of major Russian-language outlets that are based outside the country, and to Facebook, the social network popular with the Westward-looking urban middle class where criticism of the invasion has been robust. On Monday, it also started blocking access to Instagram, which is a hugely popular venue for reporting and activism in Russia.

Thousands of protesters have taken to the streets and squares of Russian cities to protest in recent weeks, only to be met with heavy police presences. There have been about 15,000 arrests, according to a tally compiled by OVD-Info. While Mr. Putin has been adept at ruthlessly stifling dissent in the past, he could face a challenge if the protests metastasize into a larger movement that punctures the official war narrative.

The English-language content of Ms. Ovsyannikova’s poster reflected how some Russians are keen to show that the war against Ukraine is not being fought in their name. Despondent over their country’s future and afraid of possible conscription and closed borders, tens of thousands of Russians have fled to Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Central Asia and Europe since the Russian invasion began.

Alina Lobzina contributed reporting.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 15 Mar, 2022 07:36 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Marina Ovsyannikova has disappeared, according to the EU. "Her lawyers are not allowed to contact her," EU chief diplomat Josep Borrell's spokesman said.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 15 Mar, 2022 07:40 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
You mean, like in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Walter?
No, otherwise - although I'm not a native English speaker- I'd mentioned that.

I just was responding - as quoted - to your "chess game".
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 15 Mar, 2022 07:42 am
@Walter Hinteler,
She had to know this was a possibility. I hope in me is that same well of conviction, bravery and self-sacrifice.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 15 Mar, 2022 07:55 am
https://images.dailykos.com/images/1048194/story_image/TMW2022-03-16color.png
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Glennn
 
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Tue 15 Mar, 2022 08:06 am
@Builder,
Quote:
It was four million Iraqi refugees living rough on the outskirts of Syria,

Yes, but if you were a real team player, you'd keep quiet about that.
Quote:
I bet he knew exactly what to do with Libya's massive gold stash, right?

Yes he did, but again, a real team player wouldn't mention it.

Thanks for not being a team player.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 15 Mar, 2022 08:14 am
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:
Quote:
It was four million Iraqi refugees living rough on the outskirts of Syria,

Yes, but if you were a real team player, you'd keep quiet about that.
I do wonder from where you two get your news - the data e.g. from the Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre are widely and often published with reference to the Global Internal Displacement Database.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Tue 15 Mar, 2022 08:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
He pulls "informaion" from a very dark space.
Glennn
 
  -2  
Tue 15 Mar, 2022 08:25 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Are you saying that you were unaware of the 500.000 dead kids, the hundreds of thousands other deaths, and the millions of refugees from Iraq?

Where are you not getting your information from?
 

 
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