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The Fifth of November Party Time!

 
 
Reply Fri 5 Nov, 2021 02:11 pm
Anyone going to join in for my annual Nov. 5 viewing of 'V for Vendetta'?

It’s such an appropriate movie for these days. I forget when it was made but now it’s old, but disturbingly spot on. To make it even creepier, the movie is set in the year 2020.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 5 Nov, 2021 02:49 pm
@Leadfoot,
Read the graphic novel, the film is a damp a squib in comparison, a real let down.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 5 Nov, 2021 08:10 pm
@izzythepush,
One day I'll get around to reading the original Alan Moore graphic novel.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 12:15 am
@tsarstepan,
I read it when it was first serialised in Warrior back in the early 80s. I was looking forward to the film for a very long time and I was very disappointed.

They did a similar hatchet job on The league of extraordinary gentlemen, the only Moore novel film adaptation that was halfway decent was Watchmen and even that missed a load out.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 05:35 am
My first love is the written word, but 'V' is still a great movie, up there with 'Coo Coo's Nest'.

And getting together with friends to read is just not the same as watching a movie together. I drag my two brothers from down the runway to watch every year. They love it too.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 05:45 am
@Leadfoot,
It is not, it is a huge let down.

Read the graphic novel.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 05:50 am
In the original Britain manages to unilaterally disarm before a nuclear war, meaning it's not not bombed.

America no longer exists. Britain is one of the few functioning states left.

There is nothing about how Mrs Almond is manipulated.

It was and remains a huge disappointment.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 06:34 am
@izzythepush,
Dude, it might be a completely different story than the book, (like in 'The Natural') but that doesn’t stop it from being a great movie. I’ll get around to reading it one day and the difference will hopefully not prevent me from enjoying it.

However I have to say that I hate everything Bukowski wrote after reading 'The Natural'. Not that I insist on happy endings every time.

Btw, have you ever noticed how the protagonists in most movies like 'V' and 'Coo Coos Nest' play out the same basic story as Jesus Christ?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 06:55 am
@Leadfoot,
When you've read the graphic novel come back to me.

Unlike you I've seen the film and read the book.

The film is terrible.

I am not aware of the Bukowski film.

I do like Bukowski, I've read a few of his books and seen Barfly.

Cronenburg's Naked Lunch was nothing like the Burroughs novel but it was still very good.

The film V is a dumbed down gutted version of the novel. It was awful, a massive let down.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 07:21 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
When you've read the graphic novel come back to me.


OK, will do.

I do know the letdown you mean. I felt the same way about 'The Fountainhead' and 'Atlas Shrugged'. OMG, what abortions. A movie from books of that sort might not even be possible.
Still, 'V' moves me to tears every time I watch it. Blows my whole macho image.

But I’m tell'n ya, if you keep reading Bukowski, you won’t be happy.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 07:29 am
@Leadfoot,
I'd much rather read Bukowski than Ayn Rand.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 07:37 am
@izzythepush,
Well, that could explain a lot.

Not that Rand was all that happy.

But two thumbs up for ‘Naked Lunch'.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 07:44 am
@Leadfoot,
I'd never heard of her until I saw the Simpsons.

She's a very obscure figure over here.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 07:58 am
@izzythepush,
I saw that riff. Most reading Americans of my generation are aware of her and have the same impression as portrayed there.

In today’s America she is kind of a twisted contradiction in their minds so the younger generation is losing any connection.

A rabidly right-wing, Capitalist, rigid humanist, ultra-moralistic Atheist.

Kids don’t have a chance of figuring her out.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 08:09 am
@Leadfoot,
Why would they want to?
She was someone who spent her whole life attacking people on benefits only to end up on them herself.

She's a bloody hypocrite as well as a fascist.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sat 6 Nov, 2021 09:43 am
@izzythepush,
Really? I was not aware that she was financially destitute at the end.

She was definitely spiritually destitute.
If I had to choose, I’d go with the former.
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