Breakthrough!- 'The 'Pandora Gene'

But this is a survival trait. Survival of the individual means nothing. The species is everything, John. You might want to take a look at Robert Ardry's "Social Contract."

You've still not provided any evidence that this is more than the product of someone's fervid imagination--and it reeks of ID pseudo-science. As was the case with Jespah, i could not find anything about this through online searches.

Apart from demonstrating that you just don't get it about the selection mechanism, you've given us nothing here. A link to a reputable source would do wonders for your credibility.

roger wrote:

But this is a survival trait. Survival of the individual means nothing. The species is everything, John. You might want to take a look at Robert Ardry's "Social Contract."

But I said 'the total species population', not 'the species'.

"Survival of the fittest" is a Spencerian construct--and it is a misconstruction of the natural selection mechanism--which is why i've said that you don't understand the selection mechanism. Any creature which survives is by definition fit--the crucial element is breeding opportunity. The ability to exploit one's environment for sustenance, and thereby enhance one's reproductive opportunity, and the viability of one's offspring is the determinant mechanism. I suspect more strongly than ever that this is just more ID pseudo-science.

I await your provision of a source with breath abated.

John Jones wrote:

roger wrote:

But this is a survival trait. Survival of the individual means nothing. The species is everything, John. You might want to take a look at Robert Ardry's "Social Contract."

But I said 'the total species population', not 'the species'.

I'm not quite sure just what you did say, John. One of the features of a2k is the "edited" notation. Your original post has been edited three times in total at this time. The last edit was performed at 11:46.

John Jones, do you also write for the National Enquirer?

You've still not provided any evidence that this is more than the product of someone's fervid imagination--and it reeks of ID pseudo-science. As was the case with Jespah, i could not find anything about this through online searches.

Apart from demonstrating that you just don't get it about the selection mechanism, you've given us nothing here. A link to a reputable source would do wonders for your credibility.

Recent research in environmental biology threatens to overturn the whole survivalist basis upon which evolution theory is based.

Scientists have discovered a group of genes amongst animals in specific environmental populations that do not serve the individual animal, but serve the total species population * itself. They found that if one of these genes, called the Pandora Gene(s) is eliminated then certain physical characteristics of each creature may change for the better or worse, as it is judged by breeding success, but which inevitably leads to a collapse, partial or total, of the total species population in that specific environment.

Astonishingly, this leads us to consider the idea that a creature's identity is found scattered among the total species population, which leads us to conclude that 'survival of the fittest' is no longer tenable.

* (The 'total species population' refers to all creatures, plants and animals, found in a specific environment.)