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National Anthems at NFL Games

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 10:25 am
@izzythepush,
It looks like Max is reinventing himself as the new Builder.

We sorted out our hooligan problem long ago Hungary is the biggest source of trouble right now.

I always knew Max was a liar and quite pathetic which is why I have him on ignore, but I never realised just how desperate he is for attention.

America has a lot going for it, but there must be something wrong with a place that produced not just Oralloy, but Max also.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 10:34 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

The only time I witnessed the National Athem being played in the cinema was in an episode of Dad's Army.

God knows when you were last here but I bet it was before I was born.


I was stationed in the UK from early 1956 through late 1957.

The played God Save the Queen before every movie presentation.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 10:35 am
Being an old fart, I remember when stations used to "sign off" at around 11:00 or midnight. They would always play the National Anthem at sign off.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 10:48 am
@Frank Apisa,
You left before I was born.

I will have to defer to Walter if he says the anthem was played at the end until 1974, I never witnessed it, we must have left before it played.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 10:52 am
@Frank Apisa,
The BBC used to play the anthem when it shutdown, I don't know if ITV did though.

ITV did start 24 hour broadcasting before the BBC.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 11:05 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
The played God Save the Queen before every movie presentation.
Quote:
When did they stop playing the national anthem at the end of cinema shows?

The custom for last house audiences to stand to attention for the national anthem died out with the culture of deference in the early 1960s. Previously, it had been considered bad manners and disrepectful to the monarch to leave as soon as the action ended. Moreover, with the credits coming at the beginning of a picture, it was easy for cinema managers to play the anthem before anyone could reach for their coat.

However, in the late 1950s, disregarding the anthem came to be seen as an act of socio-political protest among students and efforts to play God Save the Queen before the main feature were abandoned as latecomers ignored it to find their seats before the picture started. With British movies being dominated by angry young men in kitchen sink sagas that reflected the reality of everyday life, the anthem ritual becoming increasingly anachronistic and exhibitors simply gave up trying to impose decorum on their patrons.
The Guardian

I've been in England (and Scotland) from 1963 onward. And playing the anthem at the end of the show, was something which I noticed first in 1963.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 11:08 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
I don't know if ITV did though.
Southern and Grampian did, some others not. (I've watched the two frequently - I think the London ITV [can't remember how it was called back then] didn't.)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 11:10 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Back then I lived in Kent, we got Thames/London Weekend, but I was never allowed to stay up that late anyway.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 11:37 am
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To undercut Brexit, the botched handling of coronavirus, the flood of foul play of public servants, and the general shittery of the past two years, came this feel-good story.

In the hours leading up to their moment, England should have been consuming uplighting footage of supportive chants, bumping their chests out prouder than ever.

Instead, the scenes that marked the build-up to their showpiece against Italy involved men firing flares out of their arse at Leicester Square, King’s Cross having to be evacuated due to pyro, bottles thrown to smash up a Burger King window and each other, fights with police, several arrests for disorderly behaviour and the destruction of areas around London with litter and what has been described as a mixture of “piss and beer”.

To find out what others are saying and join the conversation scroll down for the comments section or click here for our most commented on articles
And that was before the real mayhem begun outside Wembley as the players were taking their pre-match pitch stroll ahead of a milestone moment in their careers.

The stadium had to be briefly locked down after hordes of ticketless fans had breached sections of the stadium and stormed the concourse. Fences were torn down and thrown aside, with multiple eyewitnesses suggesting thousands had pushed in, including through a disabled entrance.

The breach prompted violence, with videos capturing an adult punching a kid in the head inside the stadium, while a group of men kicked an Asian male while he was on the floor.



https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/england-fans-euro-2020-final-b1882271.html
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 11:41 am
@maxdancona,
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Last season Haringey Borough in north London were the victims of racist abuse from Yeovil Town fans during an FA Cup qualifying game. Their goalkeeper Valery Pajetat was spat at, pelted with stones and called a “black ****”. After the game was stopped for several minutes, manager Tom Loizou decided that there was only one course of action. “My players were getting racially abused,” he says now. “The referee had no control. So I decided to take them off. The FA Cup don’t mean that much to me. I said to the Yeovil manager: ‘Good luck in the next round.’”



https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/08/english-football-is-consumed-by-racism-and-hatred-can-the-cycle-be-broken
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 11:48 am
@maxdancona,
Sure, it happened there, no doubt about it. But here in Germany it's even worse, even and especially in the lower leagues.
But if you're looking for such articles, Max, why don't you notice anything here, in Hungary, in Italy and in France (that what happened there the last days was even mentioned in the US-media)?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 11:52 am
@Walter Hinteler,
At least we don't let the NRA shoot up our schools, let alone allow them to march in celebration like they did at Sandy Hook.

This is what happens all the time, Max can never address the issues raised so he resorts to Anglophobia.

He is a real embarrassment to America.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 11:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Sure Walter, there are two issues here.

1) It is far better for African American to play on American sports teams than in the UK or Europe. In the US, the controversy is that African Americans are feeling empowered to make a political statement that some people find inappropriate. There is a real debate in the United States.

In Europe, they can't stop fans from throwing bananas on the field while making monkey noises.

2) I find it annoying that people from the UK are here to lecture Americans.

3) And yes... I have a personal dislike of the UK. We are a former colonial property of the UK. The White Supremacy and the legacy of slavery in the US came directly from England. We are still suffering for this horrible legacy. The White Supremacists in the US yell at people for not speaking English.

If we had been colonized by tHungary, maybe I would feel differently. It is pure hypocrisy for someone from the UK to disparage America for race relations.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 12:16 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
And yes... I have a personal dislike of the UK. We are a former colonial property of the UK. The White Supremacy and the legacy of slavery in the US came directly from England. We are still suffering for this horrible legacy. The White Supremacists in the US yell at people for not speaking English.

If we had been colonized by tHungary, maybe I would feel differently. It is pure hypocrisy for someone from the UK to disparage America for race relations.
The Kingdom of Hungary (1526–1867) was outside the Holy Roman Empire, but part of the lands of the Habsburg Monarchy that became the Austrian Empire in 1804. Rather impossible hypocrisy.


If I would dislike all the territorial lords and their countries of my native town and my home town (only 15 km apart, but totally different), I had to personal dislike most of what is now Germany (and the UK, parly France).

Myths about the past are too often exploited to create hateful policies.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 12:22 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The United States is going through a process of literally tearing down our British Colonial history and its aftermath.

The statues were are now tearing down from General Lee to Nathan Forest are almost all of British descent (with the exception of Columbus). White Supremacy in the US has always been about keeping British Colonial culture. I have a Grandmother whose parents immigrated from Germany around 1900. She had German literally beaten out of her (she would be hit for using a German word).
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 12:34 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
The White Supremacy and the legacy of slavery in the US came directly from England.
The White Lion was an English privateer operating under a Dutch letter of marque which brought the first Africans to the English colony of Virginia in 1619, a year before the arrival of the Mayflower in New England.
Actually, all European settlers in North America turned to enslaved Africans as a cheaper, more plentiful labor source than indentured servants /that's what they new from their former homelands), who were mostly ... poor Europeans.

And don't let me go on with the Anglo-Saxon myth.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 12:35 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Some people are just bigots.

It's his own inadequacy, he can't stand the fact that I have friends on A2K and he is an embarrassment.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 12:44 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I dislike individuals, not nationalities.

Using the past to justify one's own bigotry only highlights it.

Not only is it wrong to attack nationalities it's also wrong to attack family members.

Albert Goring is proof that you can be a thoroughly decent humanitarian despite having a brother who is a top Nazi.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 12:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
It was the British (and later their descendants) who set up the Plantation System that enslaved an killed millions in the US. The Dutch gave up their small colony to the British in 1674. Yes they had a small role in Slavery.

The roots of White Supremacy in the US come directly from British Colonialism. The British believed that they were a superior culture (and some still do). The British Colonial mindset is that the people they dominated were better off, even as slaves, for being under that control of the British Empire.

After the American Revolution through off the Monarchy, the idea that White People (i.e. descendants of the British) were superior continued directly from this.

This problems we face in the US come directly from us having been a British Colonial property. If we had been colonized by another power, I suspect we would be better off.

You will notice that White Supremacy doesn't thrive in the same way in the countries colonized by Spain.


izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2021 01:05 pm
As White Supremacy has been brought up, with no sense of irony apparently, I'll let a Black American comedian give his opinion, after all, he does spend a lot of time over here as opposed to someone who has never visited.

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