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Mispronounced words.

 
 
coluber2001
 
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Reply Thu 20 May, 2021 01:21 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

That is very different.

It was one of the answers on Pointless yesterday, the category was words that can be spelled using just the letters of musical notes so A B C D E F & G.

I got the best answer surname of Jack, rebel leader during reign of Henry VI.

It’s Jack Cade who replies to one of Shakespeare’s best lines.

The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.


It sounds like one of our word games, but I haven't found an answer yet. So, what's the surname of Jack?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 20 May, 2021 01:49 pm
@coluber2001,
coluber2001 wrote:

izzythepush wrote:

It’s Jack Cade


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coluber2001
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2021 02:29 pm
I got over libary a long time ago, but foliage is s something else. I still slip up with that one occasionally. Foliage, not foilage.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2021 02:49 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Plan as in 9 from outer space

Tain as in grain.

I think everyone would pronounce it like that over here.

It’s not a word that gets much use, I wouldn’t know what to do with them and I’d have to go to a specialist food shop if I did.


Then there is ghoti...which you see at poker tables on the Internet at times.

The "gh" is pronounced like the gh in enough.

The "o" is pronounced like the o in women.

The "ti" is pronounced like the ti in motion.

Give it a try. Sounds a lot like FISH. Which many poker players are.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2021 02:53 pm
Prerogative is often mispronounced...and even more often incorrectly spelled.

"Often" is pronounced several different ways...often incorrectly.

"Temperature" is another.

"Government" seems to stump even professional newscasters.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 21 May, 2021 03:00 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I’m sorry, but I’m an English teacher who has been to various seminars on language all of which have started off with George Bernard Shaw’s spelling of fish.

Normally with another ten minutes on how he was wrong, ough, only appearing at the end of words.

It’s no longer something of interest, it’s an ordeal.

I hope the others enjoyed it though.

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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 12:11 pm
Often and soften.

I'll of-ten pronounce the T, but sometimes I don't. I always lose the T in sof-fen.

I worked in a library with a woman who said she worked in a 'liberry'.

City names are tough when you go to another country. Visitors to BC have asked me how to get to "O-CAN-again" when it's pronounced "Okan-A (as in ah)-gan", emphasis on the second syllable. In Ireland we visited Drogheda which we pronounced Drog-HE-da. It's actually pronounced "DRAW-hedah".

And don't even get me started on the Welsh names.
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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 12:12 pm
@Joeblow,
Joeblow wrote:

Victuals = Vittles. I had no idea!

Timbre. I definitely do not say tam ber.

Clothes seems easy to me. Long o



I say it the way you do - timber.
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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 12:13 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Plan as in 9 from outer space

Tain as in grain.

I think everyone would pronounce it like that over here.

It’s not a word that gets much use, I wouldn’t know what to do with them and I’d have to go to a specialist food shop if I did.


I don't think you'd like them. I find them disgusting. They slice, squash and then fry them. Horrible.
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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 12:17 pm
@Joeblow,
Joeblow wrote:

You can listen to it on Webster's. I'd post a link for easy access but it's a pita with this phone. I don't hear tam ber. Lol. I don't! Anyone else?


I heard "tamber": tim·​bre | \ ˈtam-bər

But I grew up saying and hearing TIMber.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 12:21 pm
There are some names, usually associated with the elite, that are pronounced totally different from how they are written.

The surname Cholmondely is pronounced Chumly.

And Magdalen College Oxford is pronounced Maudlin.

It’s how the rich and privileged keep us in check.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 12:54 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

There are some names, usually associated with the elite, that are pronounced totally different from how they are written.

The surname Cholmondely is pronounced Chumly.

And Magdalen College Oxford is pronounced Maudlin.

It’s how the rich and privileged keep us in check.


In all the world, there is nothing so grating as an American who has never been to England, talking about Buckingham Palace. Pronouncing it American style sounds as though you are speaking from a trailer park.

The word "Saint" as part of a Saint name bothers me also. I used to eat at a place across from Westminster Palace called, "In the shadow of St. Stephen's."

All these years later, I still pronounce the "saint" in those constructs as a Brit would.

Is it true that they no longer call that famous tower, The Tower of St. Stephen?

(The "Westminster" part of Westminster Abbey gets screwed up over here also.)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 01:03 pm
@Frank Apisa,
It depends on a person or a place. If it’s a person we’re more likely to say saint, but not always. Place names are always snt.

There’s an old Will Hay film, The Goose Steps Out, made during WW2 where Will Hay plays a British German teacher who is the spitting image of a German spy so he is sent to Germany on a spy mission.

He acts as a tutor to young Nazis, and there is a very good scene where place names come up and the Germans keep getting them wrong.

Gloucester and Leicester are both mentioned.

It’s on YouTube if you’re particularly bored on a wet Saturday afternoon.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 01:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I don’t know about the Tower of St. Stephen sorry.

I’m not a Londoner.
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 02:24 pm
February

Feb-ya-ary
Feb-yu-ary
Feb-ru-ary
Feb-ur-ary

Others?

Believe it or not, that last pronunciation is common in Texas.


izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 02:28 pm
@coluber2001,
Feb you ree.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 02:57 pm
Foliage seems to have lots of regional pronunciations.

I've always pronounced it with the "i" included. I know many people who pronounce it as though there is no "i" in it.
Mame
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 03:01 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I pronounce it with the "i", as well.

And we Canadians don't say 'aboot'. We say ABOUT.

Just sayin'.

I've herd some people pronounce 'segue' as 'see-gweh'.
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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 03:03 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

The surname Cholmondely is pronounced Chumly.

And Magdalen College Oxford is pronounced Maudlin.

It’s how the rich and privileged keep us in check.


How could Cholmondely possibly be Chumley? Or Magdalen be Maudlin? Is it some sort of English slang?
Mame
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jul, 2021 03:04 pm
@Mame,
And what's with the Brits who say 'fink' instead of 'think?

The French (and Quebecois) and Chinese are famous for not pronouncing the 's' at the end of plurals. The French because they don't in their language and the Chinese because they don't have the same pluralization (as it was explained to me). Apparently, it's one dog, two dog, ten dog. Makes sense, actually. The number already indicates plurality. Une livre, deus livres - it's all just "livre". So in English, they say, one book, two book.
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