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11 year old girl - felony charges for rock throwing

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2005 10:55 pm
Indeed, she may have been rock throwing from being well tired of sexual attention. We just don't know enough.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2005 10:56 pm
Re the police booking her...
seems wild to me, but I don't know the history.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jul, 2005 09:09 pm
I'm adding this to my list of reasons I can't live in California.

I mean, about once or twice a month I get phone calls or emails from people offering me jobs in California which pay two and three times what I make and they act like they're in a state opf shock when I tell them I'm not interested...
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jul, 2005 09:12 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
When I was a kid, my brother constantly had me in rock fights with boys I didn't even know.



When I was a kid kids who DIDN'T get in rock fights were assumed to be homosexuals and sent in for psychiatric evaluations... They couldn't have built a reform school or prison big enough for all the kids who were into rock fights.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jul, 2005 09:17 pm
So, what, gunga and edgar both threw rocks as kids? What is this world coming to?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jul, 2005 09:20 pm
or, going from.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jul, 2005 09:38 pm
He might be one of the kids we threw at.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 03:57 am
Re: 11 year old girl - felony charges for rock throwing
edgarblythe wrote:



Hopefully after the lawsuit, Fresno won't be able to afford three squad cars or a helicopter.
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 07:07 am
When I was in kindergarten, I used to stand in front of my house and throw rocks at passing cars.

I swear to God I didn't know that was wrong, until one car slammed on its brakes and this women told me to go in the house and tell my mother what I was doing.

OK, this is how stupid I was - I actually went in to tell her. She had just come back from the grocery store, and before I could say anything, she handed me a big sugar cookie from the bakery and said "look, your favorite"
I spent the next 2 hours peeping through the drapes to see if the women was coming back.

I also used to mail rocks and leaves. I thought when you put them in the mailbox they entered some kind of worm hole (not like I knew the word when I was 5) and just ended up somewhere else. "Oh, look, leaves from Chai Tea! Isn't she a nice little girl! Why don't we send her some sugar cookies?"
After a few weeks of this, I was making my daily "drop off" when the mailman came up and asked me what I was doing.

"Mailing leaves, why"?

I'm sure he thought it was those rotten skateboarding hoodlums.
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Crazielady420
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 07:20 am
Cute stories Chai!!!

My great grandmothers brother was hit in the head with a rock at the age of three and he passed away from this.... but they didn't press charges on the kid that threw it....

They blow everything out of proportion nowadays... there was a kid that was arrested and shackled (and I believe he was pc'd also) for riding on the skateboard across the street (in the crosswalk)... but if he had walked it then nothing would have happened!!! He was 10 I think
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2005 09:27 pm
Once a kid threw a rock over the fence for no discernable reason, smacking my son on the forehead. I was so enraged, I scaled a six foot wooden fence in a single motion and chased him up the stairs. He got inside and slammed the door, which I beat on. His mother opened up and I spieled out the story. She paddled his ass as I descended the stairs and climbed with some difficulty back over the fence.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 3 Aug, 2005 12:51 pm
Felony trial avoided for eleven year old..

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2005/08/03/national/a103922D27.DTL

So, tell me, how much does a water balloon weigh?
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Wed 3 Aug, 2005 04:12 pm
I'm glad that sensible adults have decided to treat children like children.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 3 Aug, 2005 06:47 pm
Thanks for posting the follow-up. I am glad they avoided a trial, but sad they insist on calling it anything but a child's response to a bad situation.
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 3 Aug, 2005 08:08 pm
I notice the article gave the impression the girl was a willing participant in a water balloon fight. A trial might have shown otherwise. Or not.
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pragmatic
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2005 04:51 am
edgarblythe wrote:
I was so enraged, I scaled a six foot wooden fence in a single motion and chased him up the stairs. He got inside and slammed the door, which I beat on. ...I descended the stairs and climbed with some difficulty back over the fence.


It's like in those cases where mothers have found the strength to lift up a car under which their child is trapped. What's the name...adreneline?

Anyway, in regards to the story overall - I believe in tough punishment. If it teaches the child a lesson, its a good punishment. In this case, a stone-in-the-head is something the boy will not forget in a long time and personally, I think its a better punishment than any parent would be able to impose on their child.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2005 04:58 am
The boy obviously will think twice in the future.
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Lady J
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2005 05:51 am
osso, I'm not exactly sure how much water balloons weigh, it would really depend on the size of the balloon methinks. I DO know that when one is hit on the side of the head though, it hurts like hell. And leaves a very red mark for a long time. It really hurts when it explodes right in your ear and onto your cheek.

I took matters into my own hands when I was about 11 and got hit in the side of the face with a water balloon from Joe Cool who lived in the next neighborhood as he was riding by on his Sting Ray bike. I literally chased him down to the end of the block, around the corner and was able to grab his shirt and pull him off of his moving bike. I then pummelled the tar out of him.

He didn't come back into our neighborhood any more after that. Geez, by todays standards, I would be ending up in jail about every other week for some sort of scrappin'. I was feisty as hell as a kid.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2005 10:54 am
Lady J, you were feisty!
It seems to me the matter of the water balloons was diminished by authorities as a problem - but I haven't read all that much about the situation so I am not positive about that, and I don't know myself about water balloons - whether they are no big deal or not, though I do think it counts as assault. I guess a stone is a hard, inflexible object and can, if it hits the right place with enough force, cause a fatality...
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2005 10:04 pm
The basic reality is the girl did not start the fight and was basically protecting herself. The city of Fresno needs to be sued out of existence for this.
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