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Truth vs Science

 
 
NoName77
 
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Reply Fri 19 Feb, 2021 09:25 pm
@Leadfoot,
Sir Lead,

Since when does a "fact" change? "Depends", u say. Oh, so the "reliable-sensory-data", ain't so reliable after all. Funny, we admit this deficiency, prove it by another science called psychology, then justify the use of such to attain a scientific method?
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2021 02:17 am
@NoName77,
If the two sides want to annihilate each other that is their choice.

Hope is of both sides.

Of what use is it to an individual to be with hope and also without hope?

Remember it’s not just about 0,1 and 1,0....what about 0,0 and 1,1...Both sides can agree that good is in fact good and bad is in fact bad as well.This would be contrary to a lot of modern day thought/philosophy however which is solely based upon 0,1...1,0 logic.

What is interesting is (for both sides) rules are a required output of 0,0...1,1 logic....Rules are not required with 0,1....1,0 logic.
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2021 02:31 am
@htam9876,
All potential logic needs to be considered........the truth/lie logic as well when it comes to mathematical equations.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2021 07:18 am
@NoName77,
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Surely NOT the only door left. But after all my searching, is the only Door that leads to what we all seek. But you do raise the question of "knowledge". There is knowledge of the world of Experiences, and there is knowledge of the Truth. So let's have a deeper look here. Since there is ""knowledge" of both, then "knowledge" cannot be the problem. Is it not the knowledge of "evil", that is the cause of evil? Was it not Perfect? I mean, He Who made it isPerfect, so therefore, His Creation had to be as well. We are born into a world of good AND evil, yes? So it has been passed down and gaining momentum, for generations. To challenge this then presents as a fire. But Truth is a Fire. The Alchemists of old have said rather "occultly", to "make fire afraid of Fire". Even the mention of alchemy, and most just laugh. I'm not pushing or denying alchemy, but making note that "ridicule is a great deterrent".
It is good when we enjoy our own creative writing, but you left out the answer to the only thing I asked.

Do you KNOW him. And what about his words impressed you?

Nether question requires alchemy.
Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2021 07:35 am
@Leadfoot,
I've asked before and I am still waiting for your on answer to these questions. I am more interested in understanding your mindset.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2021 07:50 am
@Albuquerque,
Did you miss it the first time? I’ll copy and paste here too.

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Yes and it depends, respectively.


The second one needs a little explanation I guess.
There were lots of doors, but this one was the only one that led me to make sense of everything.

What was your door to understanding?
Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2021 08:20 am
@Leadfoot,
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What was your door to understanding?


1 - Mostly stretching concepts to their breaking point and see what comes out.
2 - I am still attached to quantized finite mathematics, or mechanics.
2 - Also for me quantitative infinity is irrelevant so long qualitative finity is ensured.

Finally on a more personal level:

Auto- analysis
Intellectual Honesty
Curiosity

And above all:

NECESSITY.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2021 08:37 am
@Albuquerque,
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1 - Mostly stretching concepts to their breaking point and see what comes out.

Precisely the method recommended by my 'door'. He'd say things like, 'If your eye offends you, pluck it out!'.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2021 08:41 am
@Leadfoot,
John 10:9-16
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Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2021 09:07 am
@Leadfoot,
I was thinking about your inner mental eye...should you pluck that one out to?
I gladly grant you our eye vision can be faulty at times...here in Portugal some a small group of children shepherds, Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco saw Mary in a tree at May 1917 in the area of Fatima, middle of the country.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2021 12:51 pm
@Albuquerque,
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I was thinking about your inner mental eye...should you pluck that one out to?
I would take that to mean my consciousness. Since that is the only part of us that is real, and needed to contemplate his words, that would be counter productive.

But true, even that 'vision' is under attack. I have at many points been convinced I had a clear enough picture of this life that I had nothing further to learn about it. Further contemplation proved me wrong. So this 'vision' is essential if we are to continue I guess. That vision has only saved me and never offended me, so I’ll not pluck that eye out just yet.
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