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How stupid is Trump?

 
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2021 01:49 pm
@BillW,
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Kinzinger is also a very Conservative Republican
as is Liz Cheney...
BillW
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2021 02:43 pm
@Region Philbis,
True that!
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2021 12:10 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
That's because I am not wasting my time.

You've already pointed out what you will accept and nothing else.

As long as dark coloured people are being stopped at the border, black people are bring killed by your police, and the NRA are shooting up schools you're happy.

Taking five days to come up with a response isn't a good idea, once you leave it that long you're only confirming your simplistic thinking.

Reading my mind, telling me what I believe, and condemning me for it is an invalid argument. You have no idea what I believe other than what I've written here. Just another false argument from you. Arguments based on reading someone's mind are always invalid.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 5 Nov, 2021 07:02 am
@Brandon9000,
I notice you never responded to his points, just insults.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 5 Nov, 2021 08:43 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Wrong. Pointing out that his points are bogus is responding to those points.

And wrong again. He offered no insults.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2021 05:57 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
I notice you never responded to his points, just insults.

Nonsense. One of his points was:

"As long as dark coloured people are being stopped at the border, black people are bring killed by your police, and the NRA are shooting up schools you're happy."

My post was a response to it.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2021 06:51 am
https://i.imgur.com/RsNpAq0.png
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 11 Nov, 2021 08:58 am
@izzythepush,
The once and future idiot king
Why liberals should hope a smarter Republican beats Trump in the presidential primaries


https://theweek.com/politics/1006906/trump-the-idiot

Donald Trump is many things, but he is first and foremost a moron.

This doesn't mean he isn't other things as well — malicious, cruel, greedy, self-obsessed, unusually adept at demagoguery. But above all else, he is an imbecile who led an administration dominated by imbeciles. If he manages to get himself elected president again in 2024, the executive branch of the government in the most powerful nation on Earth will once more be led by half-wits and dopes.

Do you doubt it? How quickly we forget!

The 2020 presidential election took place just over a year ago. It took three days for the results to become sufficiently clear for Joe Biden to be declared the winner. The day after that, Trump's lawyer and adviser Rudy Giuliani called a press conference at the Four Seasons in Philadelphia to dispute those results. Only instead of the event taking place at the five-star hotel of that name in Center City, it was mistakenly booked at the Four Seasons Total Landscaping company in an outlying industrial part of the city. There he and a small number of staffers and Trump loyalists stood before the press, campaign signs taped to the wall of a garage door.

Over the next two months Giuliani repeatedly advanced Trump's claims of election fraud in public. On one occasion he did so with black hair dye running down the side of face. He was also joined by several other defenders — people such as My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell, and lawyers Sidney Powell and Lyn Wood, who made claims about the deceased Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez somehow manipulating American election results from beyond the grave or China pulling mysterious strings to deny Trump his victory. These were not madmen ranting on some closed-circuit television channel. They were people either working for the president of the United States or granted regular access to the Oval Office, where Trump eagerly drank in their idiocy.

To those who say this shows that Trump was broken by his electoral defeat, one can only respond: Do you not recall one of the very first things the 45th president did upon arriving in the White House in January 2017 was to insist the size of the crowd at his inauguration surpassed the one that gathered for Barack Obama's eight years before? And that Trump insisted on this despite the existence of photographs clearly demonstrating it wasn't true? And that he forced his press secretary to repeat this blatant nonsense before a roomful of journalists as well? Trump's four years in office was a real time test of whether the country could survive being led by an ignoramus.

The good news: We passed!

The bad news: It could have been much, much worse — and Trump shows every sign of wanting to continue the examination for another four years.

But wait, isn't Trump's imbecility a good thing overall? We hear this argument a lot — that, yes, Trump is a dolt, but this keeps him from doing even more damage. Far worse would be a competent Republican like former Vice President Mike Pence or Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis or just about anyone else, who would be more capable of enacting his right-wing agenda and subverting democracy.

I'm sorry, but this is incredibly foolish.

Trump's stupidity, his inability to accept his own loss in the election, his withdrawal into a fantasy reality in which he could reverse the results, and his willingness to listen to other morons who encouraged that idiocy — all of these things are deeply intertwined. It's true a less foolhardy Republican president would be more competent at governing. But this president would also be far more capable of accepting a political loss, not to mention other inconvenient aspects of reality. When it comes to evaluating fitness for high political office, such a capacity should be considered an absolute bare minimum.

We have trouble acknowledging this because it's challenging to grasp the depth and precise character of Trump's imbecility. It's not that he lacks an education, or that he doesn't have certain talents in abundance — above all, the ability to tap into and exploit the prejudices and fears of a culturally alienated and resentful segment of the electorate. Trump's stupidity has different sources. It arises from emotional defects. He is so incapable of accepting failure that he warps reality around himself, constructing alternatives to the way the world is and then plunging into them, no matter how fantastically daft they happen to be. That makes Trump's idiocy next of kin to outright delusion.

It's bad enough for people like Giuliani, Lindell, Powell, and Wood to be circling the White House, seeking to exert influence on the president. It's far, far worse for the president to listen to what these morons say and think, "Yes, this is good advice." That shows an almost psychotic level of inanity.

Even worse, when the person sitting behind the Resolute Desk is that easily manipulated, he might also come under the influence of people who aren't morons but who want to advance their own agendas by preying on presidential witlessness. Think here of John Eastman, the conservative legal scholar who convinced Trump in the days leading up to Jan. 6 that Mike Pence could single-handedly act to keep Congress from certifying Joe Biden's electoral victory.

Add it all up and it becomes clear why the worst possible outcome three years from now would be Donald Trump winning back the White House. That would be vastly worse than Pence winning or DeSantis winning or Nikki Haley winning or really anyone else in the GOP winning, except, perhaps, for those like Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene or Arizona state Sen. Wendy Rogers, who might actually be as moronic as Trump himself.

The dangerous and demoralizing truth is that the GOP is now divided into three camps: an endangered species of dissenters like Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney and Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, who reject the drift of the party into outright lunacy; a larger portion of people (including Greene, Rogers, and others) who may well be as thick-headed as Trump himself; and a much larger number of people who have resigned themselves to playing along with the stupidity encouraged by the man running the Republican show. The last group includes pretty much everyone entertaining a run for the White House in 2024 who isn't named Trump.

Now don't get me wrong: It's bad to elevate public figures who feign imbecility for political gain. But it's worse for the man elected to the nation's highest office to be a genuine moron. Thanks to the ongoing devolution of the Republican Party, American voters and political analysts have no choice but to render judgments on the basis of precisely such nuanced distinctions.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 11 Nov, 2021 09:24 am
@bobsal u1553115,
The problem is not Trump and the fact that he is a moron but that the mass of people who are still so stupid that they are supporting him to this very day.

Hell we have one poster here who dare to claim that the attempt to seized power by mob action was a peaceful protect of all things!!!!!!
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 11 Nov, 2021 10:05 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

The problem is not Trump and the fact that he is a moron but that the mass of people who are still so stupid that they are supporting him to this very day.


AMEN!
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 03:56 am
@Frank Apisa,
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The problem is not Trump and the fact that he is a moron but that the mass of people who are still so stupid that they are supporting him to this very day.


This is exactly how we feel about Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and co.

Does the left not have anyone under the age of fifty on their team?

Anyone not clearly demented, and ready for the retirement home? Really?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 04:09 am
@Frank Apisa,
Speak of the devil, sorry moron.
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 05:27 am
@izzythepush,
sorry about the mess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oROB_7A4oeI
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 07:01 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
This is exactly how we feel about Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and co.

Does the left not have anyone under the age of fifty on their team?

Anyone not clearly demented, and ready for the retirement home? Really?


Are you being intentionally daft?

"The Squad is a group of six Democratic members of the U.S. House of Representatives. It was initially composed of four women elected in the 2018 United States House of Representatives elections: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. They have since been joined by Jamaal Bowman of New York and Cori Bush of Missouri following the 2020 United States House of Representatives elections. The group is well known for being among the most progressive and left-wing members of the United States Congress.

All are under the age of 50,[1] have been supported by the Justice Democrats political action committee, and are on the left wing of the Democratic Party.[2][3] All except Omar were initially elected to Congress after unseating incumbents in primary challenges. All represent safe seats with Cook Partisan Voting Index scores of at least D+20.

The group has been said to represent the demographic diversity of a younger political generation and the advocacy of progressive policies such as Medicare for All and the Green New Deal, which have sometimes clashed with their party's leadership.[4][5][6][7] Ocasio-Cortez coined the "Squad" name in an Instagram post a week after the 2018 election. The photo, taken at a VoteRunLead event where the four founding members spoke, subsequently went viral.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Squad_(United_States_Congress)
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 07:29 am
One thing I admire about Trump is his utter transparency. I have observed him, and it's plain to see that he is complete bullshit all the way through. He doesn't even try to hide it.

http://www.greanvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/trump-mussolini.jpg
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 07:34 am
@coluber2001,
coluber2001 wrote:

One thing I admire about Trump is his utter transparency. I have observed him, and it's plain to see that he is complete bullshit all the way through. He doesn't even try to hide it.

http://www.greanvillepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/trump-mussolini.jpg


Absolutely. Total, complete bullshit...from top to bottom...from stem to stern...from here to eternity.

How anyone can hold him in esteem is almost beyond comprehension.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 07:57 am

i did a genuine double-take when i saw the 🤡 attorney that one of the insurrectionists hired to represent him...

https://iili.io/5XTZX9.jpg

Shocked

google sez --

"Harley Breite is a 51 year-old criminal defense attorney in Paterson, NJ. .He lives with his mom..."

Laughing Laughing Laughing
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 08:48 am
@Region Philbis,
" ... and admires Roger Stone to a creepy degree, having Roger's head tattooed on his right butt cheek."
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 08:49 am
@coluber2001,
"Admire"? Maybe another word?
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2021 10:37 am
I took this from Edgarblythe's Quote of the Day thread. It's too good to pass up.

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
― H.L. Mencken, On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe
(1880-1956)
 

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