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Remember when Philosophy meant more?

 
 
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 24 Feb, 2021 07:10 pm
@NoName77,
I’m not sure how to answer that. But concerning the 'pandemic'..

The only thing I’m not sure about is whether J. Q. Public is as afraid of 'death' as most governments assume they are.

Put another way, is it true that we can’t handle the truth?
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 24 Feb, 2021 07:13 pm
@Leadfoot,
Which idiocies are you referring to, exactly?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 05:46 am
@InfraBlue,
I think the most obvious is - shutting down the part of the economy affecting those least able to 'survive' the shutdown (and least vulnerable to the actual virus),
Instead of - Assisting Isolating those least able to survive the virus and best able to survive an economic shutdown.

The fact that this isn’t obvious to everyone makes me feel like a ******* alien.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 06:13 am
@Leadfoot,
An alien who doesn’t appreciate how diseases are spread.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 10:38 am
@izzythepush,
Greetings Earthlings, you’re doing so great at handling everything .

I’m still trying to master sarcasm. Got any pointers?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 11:14 am
@Leadfoot,
Try something less challenging like hang gliding or astrophysics.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 11:16 am
@izzythepush,
The problem isn’t the lockdown it's the profit driven healthcare system in America. It meant you were poorly prepared for the pandemic and it’s the reason you’ve had the most deaths.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 12:48 pm
Quote:

Deaths per million people

Belgium1 1,914.6
Czechia 1,844.66
Slovenia 1,820.93
United Kingdom 1,818.17
Italy 1,603.15
Portugal 1,571.27
USA 1,534.63
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1,530.14


For the record... the United States does not have the highest death rate from Covid. It is behind several European countries with National Health care including (ironically) the United Kingdom.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

If you are going to cheer the number of Covid deaths to score political points, at least make sure you get your facts right.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 12:51 pm
@maxdancona,
Don’t embarrass izzy with the facts.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 12:59 pm
@Leadfoot,
Max hasn’t learned his lesson. He’s trying to get my attention. The facts are that America has the most deaths from Covid.

Our government has been pretty shitty too, right wing governments always are.

We’re lucky enough to have the NHS which is why we’re getting on top of vaccinations.

Nobody is cheering on the Covid deaths, nobody.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 02:47 pm
@izzythepush,
No, but I’m afraid there are people who are celebrating the end of life as many knew it. They will likely get their 'Great Reset'.
We have not yet paid a penny of the price that will ultimately be paid by billions of people.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 02:57 pm
@Leadfoot,
The biggest problem is the climate.

You can’t eat money.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 07:55 pm
@izzythepush,
The penny was metaphorical. The loss will be worse than financial.

But interesting that you tie it to climate change.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 08:02 pm
@Leadfoot,
Those least able to survive the virus and best able to survive an economic shutdown live with and interact with those least able to survive the shutdown and least vulnerable to the actual virus, however, increasing their odds of succumbing to, and being adversely affected by the actual virus. Also there are those who are considerably least vulnerable to the virus who have succumbed to, and have been adversely affected by the actual virus, as well.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 08:07 pm
@InfraBlue,
This ain’t 'The Waltons', The extended family is a thing of the past. Can’t you stay the hell away from your grandparents for awhile?

And you don’t make policy on exceptions. You willing to give up peanut butter because it’s lethal to some?
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 25 Feb, 2021 08:18 pm
@Leadfoot,
Seniors are the most vulnerable. They aren't the only vulnerable, however. People with underlying conditions, which describes most of the population of the US, e.g. obese with complications therefrom, are also highly vulnerable.

Your exceptions/peanut butter analogy in inapt. Exceptions aren't "given up."
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 26 Feb, 2021 02:52 am
@Leadfoot,
Because that’s the real issue, economies can be rebuilt but we only have one planet.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Fri 26 Feb, 2021 04:34 am
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
Your exceptions/peanut butter analogy in inapt. Exceptions aren't "given up."

No, your critique of my analogy is inept.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Fri 26 Feb, 2021 04:41 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Because that’s the real issue, economies can be rebuilt but we only have one planet.

As I said, it’s not the economy.

I know very little of how you live, but,
I'd not like to be, under the sea, in an octopus' garden, in the shade.

I think those mop tops were being sarcastic when they said they would.
But I’m still getting used to language on the planet here. Maybe they meant it.
Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 26 Feb, 2021 08:04 am
@izzythepush,
A picture like mould in the walls would help him...
Clean half of the mould or some routes of mould and watch what happens...
Sadly you are right, few people do actually grasp or picture a exponential especially on their first steps...
Thankfully 70% are almost immune or we would be all dead by now.
 

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