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Elephant vs Franklin

 
 
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2020 03:19 pm
The parable of “Touching the elephant” is very famous. Some blind men try to touch the elephant. The guy touched the leg said that the elephant is like a pillar. The guy touched the tail said that the elephant is like a string. The guy touched the ear said that the elephant is like a fan...
Perhaps Franklin didn’t believe such cognition as “lightning is anger of the god Zeus” and decided to touch the elephant in another way.
Franklin was lucky.
The worst thing might be that even Franklin was burned into toasted duck, some people still teased him silly and insisted “lightning is anger of the god Zeus ”. It might be a real sadness for science.
他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁快快全世界全宇宙打靶啦。当今时代,全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2020 09:24 pm
@htam9876,
It wasnt a parable, it was a poem that Ill relate the first few lines and you can go find the rest.

"It was six men of Indostan, to learning much inclined,
who went to see the elephant (Though all of them were blind),
that each by observation, might satisfy his mind.

The first approached the elephant, and, happening to fall,
against his broad and sturdy side, at once began to bawl:
'God bless me! but the elephant, is nothing but a wall!'

-JG Saxe
htam9876
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2020 01:19 am
@farmerman,
Then, the conception of a "wall" became the "standard model" for the elephant?
他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁快快打靶啦。当今时代全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2020 04:26 am
@htam9876,
well, for that one "wise man", yes. Remember, the men are blind and whatever each comes in contact with, that man exclaims that that is what the elephant is like. You should find the entire poem and red how each of the six wise men have different opinions about how they perceive an elephant based upon the one part each contacts.

Please, just look up the poem and you will see the lesson the poet is trying to present.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2020 04:31 am
@farmerman,
Here is the powm by John Godfrey Saxe. He took what is an old Indian folk tale and turned it into a poem in the late 19th century



It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.


The First approached the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
"God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!"

The Second, feeling of the tusk
Cried, "Ho! what have we here,
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me 'tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!"

The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up he spake:
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a snake!"

The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
And felt about the knee:
"What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain," quoth he;
"'Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!"

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: "E'en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can,
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!"

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Than, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope.
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a rope!"

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!

Moral:

So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen.

As you see, Saxe has added the moral in poesy as to what the Indian folk tale tried to convey.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2020 04:41 am
@htam9876,
Franklin had many ways to experience electrical energy in the day. There were "many things (like Leyden Jars, electromagnetic toys, etc) so Franklin wanted to experience lightning as a force. (Most learned folks of the day already unerstood the force of electricity).

I think he knew that It could have killed him and Im a bit surprised whether this experiment actually was performed or was merely part of our country"s apocrypha.(We also have a story(untrue) about how one of our founding fathers , George Washington cut down a cherry tree and, when accused, admitted it to his father).

Franklin is credited for enventing the lightning rod, but thi tool had already been known in Russia a decade earlir and it was in ue in the UK and byby French settlers in the US before Franklin did his "experiment"

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htam9876
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2020 07:34 am
Piggy encountered a fun term “the scientific community” in a professional physics forum today.
Piggy laughed and asked that guy “who is the scientific community”?
他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁快快全世界全宇宙打靶啦。当今时代,全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
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htam9876
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2020 04:42 pm
@farmerman,
“So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen.”

In machinery drawing, six views are needed to describe a machine part: the top view, the bottom view, the front view, the rear view, the left side view and the right side view.
………………………………………..
The authentic guys who claimed “the scientific community” in a professional physics forum yesterday even not yet aware the problems with the traditional Lorentz transformation in the cross direction in SR. Piggy has introduced the “mass – space equation” and solved those problems in able2know a few months ago (details see the thread “Is the sun round or thin?” in the Relativity column of the physics forum. A bit regrettable, piggy doesn’t know how to attach the picture of the “L” shaped circuit in that thread).
Actually, there is another very simple thought experiment to demonstrate the inherent flaw in Einstein’s SR: assume a large rabbit is moving in speed v in frame S, the same angles with all axis x,y,z for simplicity. Then, in frame S, the components of speed v along x,y,z axis are the same. While in frame S’, because the Lorentz transformation formulas in the cross direction is not the same as that of the along direction (the moving direction of frame S’), that’s mean the components of speed v’ along x’,y’,z’ axis are NOT the same. Then, physics rule is not the same in different inertial frames. Einstein contradicted himself. If we resort to the space contraction in all directions which is disclosed by the Mass – Space equation, this flaw can be amended easily.
Piggy really is reluctant to go there and inform them and just let those “wise men” confusing in the whole life.
他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁快快全世界全宇宙打靶啦。当今时代,全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
…………………………………………
Cosmos can be fashion, passion and inflation while physics must be step by step.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2020 05:59 pm
@htam9876,
carry on, Im done.
htam9876
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2020 08:02 pm
@farmerman,
Actually I am tired (of arguing such bad questions with those authentic guys repeatedly). Piggy feels that modern physics is something already heavy accumulated and hard to go bad, even G* can’t pull it out of the mud pit. In fact, many authentic guys are just goofing around in math games and help emit more and more “?” into the night sky.
………………………………..
Piggy would rather go to hurt wild ducks. It’s said that there are many wild ducks in American farms. Farmers with bad shooting skill can get good harvest…haha
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htam9876
 
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Reply Mon 21 Sep, 2020 04:51 am
说什么物理?竟然忘了本世纪全世界最重要的事情:
他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁全世界全宇宙打靶!
当今时代,全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
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