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Opinion | You have echoed lies and defended demagoguery. It must sting to still be defending (Trump)

 
 
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Opinion | You have echoed lies and defended demagoguery.
It must sting to still be defending (Trump)




Published July 30, 2020



Quote:
"What a tremendous burden it must for you to still be defending President Trump. You have called yourself a constitutional conservative for decades, but now you sit silently as the president pushes to move this year’s election because he might lose. Even some Republican senators are speaking up. Why aren’t you?

Trump remembers how you ran interference for him when he claimed unlimited powers under Article II of the Constitution, so he thinks you will stay quiet. Remember your silence after Charlottesville? You eventually mustered the nerve to claim Trump never preached moral equivalence between torch-carrying Nazis and protesters. How unthoughtful it was of David Duke to expose you by praising the president’s putrid performance and thanking Trump for his “honesty and courage to tell the truth.” The former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard even bragged to reporters that Charlottesville represented a “turning point” for white nationalism. “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump,” Duke proclaimed. “That’s why we voted for [him].”

Ouch. That one had to sting, but you kept on defending Donald.

If you had a political soul after that shameful stunt, the Cold Warrior in you would have been as sickened by Trump’s retreat from Germany as U.S. strategists were over his ceding of Syria to Vladimir Putin, handing Moscow a foothold in the Middle East for the first time since 1973. No country was a closer ally during the Cold War than West Germany, and no nation is more critical to Europe’s future now than a unified Germany. Undermining the U.S.-German alliance because of an ignorant misunderstanding of NATO’s dues structure undermines the historic work that Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush completed throughout the Cold War’s final years.

But there you are, silently supporting a demagogue who sits by while intelligence suggests Russia’s leader put bounties on the heads of young American troops. Trump instead plays Putin’s apologist by declaring the United States equally guilty.

“Well, we supplied weapons when they were fighting Russia, too,” Trump said of our efforts to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviet invasion some 40 years ago.

Did any part of you cringe when Trump leaned once again on the crutch of moral equivalency, ignoring the glaring fact that the U.S.S.R. was America’s sworn enemy during our “twilight struggle” against communism? Maybe not. Maybe Trump has you figured out and knows what a frightened political soul you are, and remembers that you remained mute when he defended Putin’s killing of journalists and political rivals almost five years ago. “Our country does plenty of killing also,” candidate Trump told me when I repeatedly pressed him on “Morning Joe” to criticize Putin’s murderous ways. He wouldn’t then when the victims were Russian reporters, and he won’t now when the targets are young American heroes in uniform.

I know Trump’s devotion to Putin deeply disturbs you, but somehow you swallow that bile and keep running cover for them both. How hard it must have been to keep all of that down when Trump’s foreign policy adviser, national security adviser, campaign chairman, deputy campaign chairman, personal lawyer, political consultant and attorney general were all busted for lying to federal investigators or Congress about their contacts with Russians. But you still kept your head down and marched in a single formation behind Trump.

When it was revealed that Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign was “sweeping and systematic,” you shrugged your shoulders. You later learned that Russian nationals with connections to the Kremlin promised Trump’s family dirt on Hillary Clinton, and that they were excited to learn it was part of “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” You remained motionless, numb to it all, when federal investigators later revealed that Russia’s GRU began hacking Clinton-related email accounts hours after Trump announced this: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

By this time, you began mindlessly regurgitating the former reality TV host’s propaganda about the “Russian hoax,” and hoped Americans would be stupid enough to ignore the mountains of damning evidence against Trump. Your singular focus turned to the Steele dossier’s most lurid tales, and you believed then, and now, that Christopher Steele’s fantastical claims could erase a multitude of Trump’s sins. You repeated the lies of Attorney General William P. Barr and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey O. Graham when they falsely claimed the FBI’s investigation began with Steele’s dossier. And you kept repeating this idiotic defense even after it became painfully evident that Trump’s team welcomed Russia’s interference in American democracy and then tried to cover it up. You still refuse to criticize the Trump team’s use of material stolen by Russia during the last month of the campaign, just like you and your president continue turning a blind eye to any Russian bounties.

None dare call it treason, but perhaps one day they will."


http://www.armwoodopinion.com/2020/07/opinion-you-have-echoed-lies-and.html
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 07:27 am
@Real Music,

i almost feel sorry for the tRumpets on here.

they are watching their guy go down in flames, one crazy tweet at a time...







R(almost)P



.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 07:34 am
@Real Music,
All those words and he is still better than sleepy Joe...
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 07:35 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:


i almost feel sorry for the tRumpets on here.

they are watching their guy go down in flames, one crazy tweet at a time...







R(almost)P



.


Given that they are still supporting a man who would be willing to destroy our whole framework of government and our proud tradition of the peaceful transfer of power in an attempt for him to remain in power no I do not feel sorry for them.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 07:37 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

All those words and he is still better than sleepy Joe...


Bullshit as most of the population picked at random would be a better president then Trump. He is an insult to every man who held that office before him.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 07:41 am
@BillRM,
They'd certainly be better than sleepy Joe too.
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 08:10 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
They'd certainly be better than sleepy Joe too.

Possibly.

But it's quite unlikely that an individual picked at random from the general population would have anywhere near the experience that Biden has had in government. Besides, Biden isn't a one man show like Trump, and will seek the counsel of trusted and respected advisors instead of relying on his son-in-law.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 08:21 am
@hightor,
True. Biden has many years of cheating, lying and stealing from the public purse. A life long civil servant that is a multimillionaire...

Why don't you guys ever concern yourselves over that? Where does that money come from?

"Lucrative book deal" is the new way to launder dirty money to politicians.
revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 08:59 am
@McGentrix,
Unlike Trump, Biden has shared 20 years of his tax returns. Therefore where he made his money is not a mystery.

Joe Biden is rich, but his taxes tell us more

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revelette1
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 09:28 am
Quote:
Trump, Please Quit Before You’re Fired

It was clear when President Trump woke up on Thursday morning, with no pollster left to lie to him, and not enough Fox News sycophancy to fill his cereal bowl, that he would have to play one of the last tricks in the dictator’s handbook.

He floated the idea of breaching the Constitution by illegally delaying the national election. It follows his logic on a pandemic that has taken more than 150,000 American lives. If there were less testing for the coronavirus, cases would go down. Ergo, if there were no election on Nov. 3, he couldn’t be booted from office in a wipeout. The stable genius strikes again!

Here’s a better suggestion: As a mortal threat to those looking for life-and-death guidance from the White House, he should do humanity a favor and surrender now. He can quit while he’s only behind by 10 points or so. More important, by walking away today, he can save many lives of supporters who have listened to the lethal quackery from the presidential podium.

He gave up in the war on Covid-19 from Day 1, when he declared that there was nothing to worry about, it would all soon disappear like magic. And his throw-in-the-towel tactics continue to this day, as he promotes the harmful and bizarre suggestions of a woman who also believes in demon sperm transmitted through dreams.

And here’s the net result of a country run by a crackpot: On a single day this week, there were nearly twice as many Covid-19 deaths in just one American state, Texas, than in the five major countries of Western Europe combined. On that same day, Thursday, the Covid Tracking Project reported 1,400 American deaths, the most in a single day since May 15.

Trump publicly quit on his country two years ago, when he chose Vladimir Putin’s word over that of American intelligence officials, the infamous sellout in Helsinki. So it was no surprise when the two leaders spoke by phone this week, that Trump did not even raise the question of Russians paying a bounty to have American soldiers killed in Afghanistan. That is dereliction of duty, son.

He quit on the economy in early spring, when he pushed for a widespread reopening, even though health experts warned that the results could be catastrophic. And thus, this week we saw the largest drop in economic output on record, as people were afraid to resume normal commerce in a country fevered with viral hotspots.

Trump has yet to realize what every sensible business owner knows: The only path back to prosperity is through the managed economic sacrifice and uniform health guidelines needed to get the virus under control.

He quit on the Constitution, obstructing Congress and abusing power, in the scheme to tie aid to a struggling ally to a demand that Ukraine dig up dirt on a political opponent.

From there, he’s become increasingly authoritarian. Clearing a park full of peaceful protesters by force in order to stage a photo op with a Bible was just the start.

Of late, Trump has been itching for a riot. With buildings aflame, windows smashed and mobs in the streets, he could fulfill his prophecy of being the only man able to fix the American carnage he warned us about. Majorities support changes needed to root out systemic racism. The only way that Trump can hold back the tide is to change the story.

Except, some of the players are not who we think they are. The police have identified the man who turned largely peaceful Black Lives Matter protests into mayhem in Minneapolis — the window-smashing Umbrella Man — as a white supremacist.

Sending Trump’s troops into American cities appears to have backfired, even as the president announced plans to possibly send new federal agents into Cleveland, Milwaukee and Detroit, counting on swing state showdowns for the Fox News machine.

If Trump were to quit, he would join Richard Nixon in disgrace — he’d be an impeached president (Nixon quit on the brink of impeachment) forced from office. Except, Nixon is a notch higher in the hell-scape, given his diplomatic openings in China and his signing of landmark environmental laws.

Delaying the Nov. 3 election is not only illegal, it would be unprecedented. Lincoln held the regular election during the Civil War, and Franklin Roosevelt faced voters on time during World War II.

If Trump were to walk away today, the likely nominee of his party would be Mike Pence. And Democrats shouldn’t be afraid of facing Pence. He’s Trump with a pious veneer, the man sent to the border to justify putting kids in cages, the Stepford veep always there with a timely bootlick. And of course, he carries a portfolio of failure as the man chosen to oversee the federal government’s disastrous response to the pandemic.

Quitting before an election would deprive Americans of the satisfaction of rejecting him by an overwhelming margin, a national shower to clean off four years of his grime and grift.

But there’s another image, equally satisfying. Trump could play one last gambit in the dictator’s checklist and refuse to leave office on Jan. 20 — election or no election — as required by the Constitution. If he does this, a weary nation would be rewarded with a presidential perp walk, as Trump is escorted out of the White House and into infamy by military police.


NYT
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 10:01 am
@McGentrix,
No shame when it come to a Trump supporters it would seems with Trump hiding his finances behind a wall of lawyers instead of releasing the information like everyone else who had run for president in our lifetime.

Love how he force our Uk ambassador to lobby for one of his uk golf courses.
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 10:30 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
A life long civil servant that is a multimillionaire...

He was, for many years, the least wealthy member of the Senate.

Quote:
In the latest data that include Biden, Biden again ranked near the bottom: 577 of 581 officials in 2014.

His estimated net worth was $947,987, based on official reports filed in 2015.

Since leaving the White House, Biden has reaped millions.

politifact

No, I'm not particularly concerned about politicians cashing in on their connections and experience after they leave office. I haven't seen any evidence of "cheating, lying and stealing from the public purse". Now, if we want to restrict the ability of politicians to earn big bucks after they've left office we should probably address it with legislation instead of innuendo.

And I'm surprised that you continue to support Trump so uncritically considering the number of shady connections and questionable deals he's involved himself with over the years. Hell, he won't even release his taxes.

Quote:
"Lucrative book deal" is the new way to launder dirty money to politicians.


Can you explain how that would even work? Isn't it much more likely that publishing companies see an opportunity to make money off a celebrity's book? Where does money laundering come into it?

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Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 10:58 am
@Region Philbis,
He’s consistent, isn't he?! Thee are idjits that can’t handle giving up control of the White House even if their guy is a hamhanded criminal who committed treason by making a deal with Russia, our enemy.
Real Music
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 11:09 am
You Have Echoed Lies & Defended Demagoguery. It Must Sting To Still Be Defending (Trump)

Mika presents Joe's new op-ed in the Washington Post aimed at Republicans who continue to enable the racist,
anti-science, and anti-American behavior of President Trump, which may one day prove ‘treasonous.’


Aired on July 31, 2020


coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 01:58 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
still supporting a man who would be willing to destroy our whole framework of government and our proud tradition of the peaceful transfer of power in an attempt for him to remain in power no I do not feel sorry for them.

If you are supporting Obama, who is not running. Thank God. Obama ruined the peaceful transfer of power by withholding information and actively spying on a president elect.

Projecting what Obama did on Trump is not working.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 06:07 pm
@coldjoint,
Fortunately the Senate is slowly discovering its backbone. Trump is really running amuck aint he?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 06:16 pm
John H Armwood II wrote:
You have echoed lies and defended demagoguery.

What lies and what demagogy?


John H Armwood II wrote:
It must sting to still be defending Trump.

Not really.


John H Armwood II wrote:
What a tremendous burden it must for you to still be defending President Trump.

Not really. Posting facts just comes naturally to me.


John H Armwood II wrote:
You have called yourself a constitutional conservative for decades, but now you sit silently as the president pushes to move this year's election because he might lose. Even some Republican senators are speaking up. Why aren't you?

I understand that it's unlikely that Congress will change the election date, and I understand that it's no big deal if they do.

I don't think the date should be changed, but meh. I have more important things to worry about.


John H Armwood II wrote:
Trump remembers how you ran interference for him when he claimed unlimited powers under Article II of the Constitution, so he thinks you will stay quiet. Remember your silence after Charlottesville? You eventually mustered the nerve to claim Trump never preached moral equivalence between torch-carrying Nazis and protesters.

Eventually???

I pointed that fact out immediately.


John H Armwood II wrote:
How unthoughtful it was of David Duke to expose you by praising the president's putrid performance and thanking Trump for his "honesty and courage to tell the truth." The former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard even bragged to reporters that Charlottesville represented a "turning point" for white nationalism. "We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump," Duke proclaimed. "That's why we voted for [him]."

Ouch. That one had to sting, but you kept on defending Donald.

Sorry, no. No stinging. I don't care what David Duke says.


John H Armwood II wrote:
If you had a political soul after that shameful stunt,

Hardly shameful. Get a grip.


John H Armwood II wrote:
the Cold Warrior in you would have been as sickened by Trump's retreat from Germany as U.S. strategists were over his ceding of Syria to Vladimir Putin, handing Moscow a foothold in the Middle East for the first time since 1973.

For the first time since 1973???

Russia has had bases in Syria for about 50 years now.


John H Armwood II wrote:
No country was a closer ally during the Cold War than West Germany,

Oh please. Rolling Eyes

If Germany was such a great ally, why did they keep telling us to take our nukes and go home?

They still castigate us as imperialist warmongers even today.

Poland doesn't stab us in the back, and is a much better location for our troops to be based if we are going to fend off a Russian invasion of the EU.


John H Armwood II wrote:
I know Trump's devotion to Putin deeply disturbs you, but somehow you swallow that bile and keep running cover for them both. How hard it must have been to keep all of that down when Trump's foreign policy adviser, national security adviser, campaign chairman, deputy campaign chairman, personal lawyer, political consultant and attorney general were all busted for lying to federal investigators or Congress about their contacts with Russians. But you still kept your head down and marched in a single formation behind Trump.

Phony charges from a political witch hunt.


John H Armwood II wrote:
By this time, you began mindlessly regurgitating the former reality TV host's propaganda about the "Russian hoax," and hoped Americans would be stupid enough to ignore the mountains of damning evidence against Trump.

No such evidence.


John H Armwood II wrote:
None dare call it treason, but perhaps one day they will.

Not likely.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 06:19 pm
@revelette1,
Timothy Egan wrote:
Trump, Please Quit Before You're Fired

Progressive nutcases in the government, please quit all your jobs.


Timothy Egan wrote:
He floated the idea of breaching the Constitution by illegally delaying the national election.

If Congress changed the date of the election, that would neither breach the Constitution nor be illegal.


Timothy Egan wrote:
He quit on the Constitution, obstructing Congress and abusing power,

He did nothing of the sort.


Timothy Egan wrote:
Sending Trump's troops into American cities appears to have backfired, even as the president announced plans to possibly send new federal agents into Cleveland, Milwaukee and Detroit, counting on swing state showdowns for the Fox News machine.

I'm happy with the fact that he is helping to restore order.


Timothy Egan wrote:
If Trump were to quit, he would join Richard Nixon in disgrace -- he'd be an impeached president (Nixon quit on the brink of impeachment) forced from office.

Being the victim of a lynch mob is hardly a disgrace.


Timothy Egan wrote:
Delaying the Nov. 3 election is not only illegal, it would be unprecedented. Lincoln held the regular election during the Civil War, and Franklin Roosevelt faced voters on time during World War II.

It would not be illegal for Congress to change the date of the election.


Timothy Egan wrote:
If Trump were to walk away today, the likely nominee of his party would be Mike Pence. And Democrats shouldn't be afraid of facing Pence. He's Trump with a pious veneer, the man sent to the border to justify putting kids in cages,

I've never seen him justify Barack Obama's cages.


Timothy Egan wrote:
And of course, he carries a portfolio of failure as the man chosen to oversee the federal government's disastrous response to the pandemic.

Last I heard Mr. Pence was doing pretty well.

The deaths are the result of the Democrats disrupting the government with a sham impeachment throughout the fist month of the pandemic.


Timothy Egan wrote:
Quitting before an election would deprive Americans of the satisfaction of rejecting him by an overwhelming margin, a national shower to clean off four years of his grime and grift.

The American people plan to reelect Mr. Trump.


Timothy Egan wrote:
But there's another image, equally satisfying. Trump could play one last gambit in the dictator's checklist and refuse to leave office on Jan. 20 -- election or no election -- as required by the Constitution. If he does this, a weary nation would be rewarded with a presidential perp walk, as Trump is escorted out of the White House and into infamy by military police.

Actually the Constitution says that he gets to stay in office when he is reelected.

I know progressives really hate the Constitution, but facts are facts.

Though I guess progressives really hate facts too.

I wonder what progressives hate more, facts or our Constitution.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 06:26 pm
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:
i almost feel sorry for the tRumpets on here.
they are watching their guy go down in flames, one crazy tweet at a time...

I don't perceive him as going down in flames.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2020 06:27 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
destroy our whole framework of government and our proud tradition of the peaceful transfer of power

Don't be silly.
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