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What's the deal with Rule 34 material?

 
 
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jul, 2020 06:19 pm
@JGoldman10,
Why do you keep repeating the same things to me, word for word?

I already know more about your life and habits than I care to know about. Meanwhile, you have known me for a few years now, but you know very little of my life because I'm careful to leave out personal details.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jul, 2020 06:39 pm
@Rebelofnj,
That's somewhat of a bad habit I've gotten myself into. I don't know too much about you personally. If I'm repeating myself about something it's because I want to clarify what I'm saying.

I was just calling you out about your earlier comments.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2020 11:35 pm
@Rebelofnj,
More reasons why I think Rule 34 material is produced:

Some people produce Rule 34 material because they are getting paid to do it. Some people make a living out of doing it. Apparently, I presume, there is a demand for this stuff, or people are producing it because they want there to be a demand for it; they could be producing this stuff because they think this is what people want to see.

There are some artists - animators, cartoonists, etc., who have become internet-famous producing Rule 34 material.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 04:17 am
@JGoldman10,
Someone already mentioned the moneymaking aspect of it.
https://able2know.org/topic/549573-2#post-7027996
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 04:46 am
@Rebelofnj,
I know people are making money doing it. There are a few internet-famous Rule 34 artists I've learned about by being on Newgrounds and on YouTube.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 05:47 am
What is the deal with the legality of Rule 34 material? Not all of it but a large portion of it is based on copyrighted and trademarked properties. This includes things like characters from cartoons, comics, video games, shows, movies, etc., or corporate, commercial and advertising mascots, etc. Any kind of copyrighted and/or trademarked fictional characters.

Does making porn out of something necessarily fall under Fair Use and does it constitute being a derivative work or works?

Legally, how are people able to produce Rule 34 material for profit? How are they able to do that even if they aren't producing parodies of any kind?
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 06:24 am
@JGoldman10,
Some of it is considered parody. Some of it is considered copyright infringement.

People have gotten around this by using Patreon, where people technically would pay the artist directly on a monthly basis while the artist would create something (original work or using existing IP).

Most likely, the copyright holders would just send cease-and-desist letters to the artists and would try to avoid giving any more attention to the artwork through a long legal battle.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 05:18 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Some of it is considered parody. Some of it is considered copyright infringement.



Yes. I thought so. This article confirms that:

http://copyright.nova.edu/porn-parody/

A lot of Rule 34 material is fan-made and companies know people are producing this. I presume companies generally don't want to get involved.

I know Nintendo doesn't at least. However I know Miyamoto has gone online and told fans to stop making gay porn material out of the Mario Bros.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jul, 2020 08:39 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

However I know Miyamoto has gone online and told fans to stop making gay porn material out of the Mario Bros.


Miyamoto had every right to go online and do that since he created Mario and Luigi.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jul, 2020 10:26 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

I don't look at fart fetish material with the intention of "getting off" to it. I don't look at any Rule 34 material or any pornographic material online.

I've watched some fart-related videos on YouTube because I thought they were going to be funny.


Back in the late 80s I worked with someone who kept going on about his collection of porn videos. They sounded pretty disgusting to be honest including video of a man having sex with a chicken.

When I asked him why anyone would want to watch a man shagging a chicken, like you, he said he thought it was funny.

I didn’t believe him either.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jul, 2020 04:54 pm
@izzythepush,
I thought the video of the girl farting in the subway train, which I posted a link to earlier in this thread, was going to be funny.

It was weird.

Most of the animated fart fetish videos I saw on YouTube were weird to say the least. Some of them were taken off of YouTube, I presume because YouTube thought they were too inappropriate.

No all fart fetish videos, especially animated ones are/were intended to be dirty. A number of them are supposed to be comedic.

As I said, I didn't even know fart fetishism was a thing until I watched an episode of Web Soup in which they talked about weird fetishes, a couple of years back.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jul, 2020 04:57 pm
@izzythepush,
Do you know burp fetishism is a thing? I wasn't going to mention any more weird fetishes, especially weird fantasy ones, but that's a thing.

A lot of people produce animated burp fetish videos, especially of established fictional characters.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jul, 2020 09:07 pm
@izzythepush,
There's nothing funny about bestality. That's disgusting and disturbing. God calls bestiality an abomination; it says so in the Bible.
Sturgis
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jul, 2020 10:56 pm
@JGoldman10,
As a Christian, I'm sure you can supply us with the book of the bible, the chapter and the verse/s.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jul, 2020 01:58 am
@Sturgis,
Go to these links:

https://www.openbible.info/topics/bestiality
https://www.gotquestions.org/bestiality.html
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Bestiality/
https://biblereasons.com/bestiality/
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Bestiality
https://www.compellingtruth.org/bestiality.html

There's a bunch of Scriptures at these sites.

Here's a few Scriptures to get you started:

Exodus 22:19 - Whoever lies with an animal shall be put to death.

Leviticus 18:23 - And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion.

Leviticus 20:15-16 - If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Deuteronomy 27:21 - "Cursed be anyone who lies with any kind of animal." And all the people shall say, "Amen."


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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jul, 2020 03:07 am
@JGoldman10,
I never said there was, I just said he was using the same excuse to watch it that you are using to watch fart fetish videos.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jul, 2020 03:10 am
Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee. Leviticus 19 19.

Look at the bit in bold. Are you obeying that Mr Goldman?
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jul, 2020 04:06 am
@izzythepush,
Every time I point out the other laws from Leviticus (like the one ordering the death of children who disrespect their parents), JG never wants to discuss it.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jul, 2020 04:18 am
@Rebelofnj,
I've noticed that.

Although I don't need Leviticus to tell me that bestiality is wrong.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jul, 2020 05:22 am
@izzythepush,
ANY person with ANY sense should know sex with animals is wrong.
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