What's the deal with Rule 34 material?

@maxdancona,

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...my definition of "sex".

You mean with Rowena your inflatable doll which you deflate and pack up in your valise when going on vacation (since you have a tantrum when forced to sleep alone).

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@JGoldman10,

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Hebrews 13:4 - "Marriage should be honored by all."

including obviously same gender marriages. After all, God loves all of us equally.

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@Sturgis,

Sturgis wrote:

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...my definition of "sex".

You mean with Rowena your inflatable doll which you deflate and pack up in your valise when going on vacation (since you have a tantrum when forced to sleep alone).

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I was blue and lonely,
I couldn't sleep a wink
And I could only get unconscious
If I'd had to much to drink

There was somehow, something wrong somewhere,
And each day seemed grey and dead
The seeds of desperation
Were growing in me head

I needed inspiration,
A brand new start in life,
Somewhere to place affection,
But I didn't want a wife

And then by lucky chance I saw
In a special magazine
An ad that was unusual,
The like I'd never seen,

"Experience something different
With our new imported toy,
She's loving, warm, inflatable
And a guarantee of joy"

She came all wrapped in cardboard,
All pink and shriveled down
A breath of air was all she needed
To make her lose that frown

I took her to the bedroom
And pumped her with some life,
And later in a moment
That girl became my wife

And so I sit her in the corner
And sometimes stroke her hair
And when I'm feeling naughty

I blow her up with air
She's cuddly and she's bouncy,
She's like a rubber ball,
I bounce her in the kitchen
And I bounce her in the hall

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@Sturgis,

Sturgis wrote:

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Hebrews 13:4 - "Marriage should be honored by all."

including obviously same gender marriages. After all, God loves all of us equally.

There is no way to twist the Bible to support same sex marriage. There is just too much from Leviticus to Paul's epistle to the Hebrews that make it clear that from the biblical perspective; marriage is between a man and a woman. As much as you would like to think otherwise.... the Bible wasn't written in the 21st century.

There are lots of good reasons that we should accept same sex marriage. But the Bible isn't one of them.

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@Sturgis,

A union between two people of the same gender isn't "marriage". God designed marriage to be between a man and wife.

You've probably heard this before:

God made Adam and Eve. He didn't make Adam and Steve, or Madam and Steve.

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@JGoldman10,

JGoldman10 wrote:

I was debating whether or not I wanted to tag this thread as "NSFW" but I didn't think people were actually going to post porn images in it.

To be clear:

I'm a born-again Christian. Please do not post porn images in my thread. I don't want to see them. Thank you.

LOL so is Jerry Falwell jr protecting the good Christian students by enforcing all manner of sexual conduct rules at Liberty University while watching his wife get it on with a pool boy.

A born-again Christian until proven otherwise is another name for a hypocrite at least in my opinion.

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@JGoldman10,

JGoldman10 wrote:

A union between two people of the same gender isn't "marriage". God designed marriage to be between a man and wife.

You've probably heard this before:

God made Adam and Eve. He didn't make Adam and Steve, or Madam and Steve.

I disagree with both of you.

God didn't design marriage. Marriage was practiced by humans long before the Christian God was invented.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

JGoldman10 wrote:

A union between two people of the same gender isn't "marriage". God designed marriage to be between a man and wife.

You've probably heard this before:

God made Adam and Eve. He didn't make Adam and Steve, or Madam and Steve.

I disagree with both of you.

God didn't design marriage. Marriage was practiced by humans long before the Christian God was invented.

Christians are so kind as to tell us all how we should live and who we can love and how we can love for that matter.

Thanks god for Christians..........

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@maxdancona,

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There is no way to twist the Bible to support same sex marriage.

There is a way if we use JG's interpretation of the Bible.

He previously has said that "The Bible says Christians still need to obey the laws of the land".

Then he quoted Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."
https://able2know.org/topic/547206-62#post-7045500

With that in mind, The US Supreme Court ruled that same sex marriage was legal nationwide in 2015, and President Trump did declare the ruling as "the law of the land" (I'm well aware of Trump's mixed record of dealing with LGBT+ rights).

So, in a very roundabout way, the Bible does defend gay marriage in a pure legal sense.

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@Rebelofnj,

Yes, Rebel. That is a valid point. If gay marriage is the law of the land, a Christian should support that. The Apostle Paul also tells Timothy to not get caught up in these worldly arguments.

However.... the Bible is explicitly homophobic in several places. Modern people try to explain this away, I don't know why they would. The Bible was written by strict religious people in a time that was very different from our own.

You can accept the Bible (which also clearly supports slavery), or you can accept parts of it, or you can reject it. But it doesn't make sense to change what it says when everyone can just read it for themselves.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Yes, Rebel. That is a valid point. If gay marriage is the law of the land, a Christian should support that. The Apostle Paul also tells Timothy to not get caught up in these worldly arguments.

However.... the Bible is explicitly homophobic in several places. Modern people try to explain this away, I don't know why they would. The Bible was written by strict religious people in a time that was very different from our own.

You can accept the Bible (which also clearly supports slavery), or you can accept parts of it, or you can reject it. But it doesn't make sense to change what it says when everyone can just read it for themselves.

AMEN!

If you think the Bible to be the inerrant word of a GOD...you simply have to accept that buying and selling slaves is totally moral and good...and any man engaging in homosexual activity should be put to death.

Anyone who thinks either of those thing to be okay...should get a mental check-up.

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@Frank Apisa,

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...and any man engaging in homosexual behavior should be put to death.

Wouldn't that have caused most of the disciples to have been executed?

Thank goodness incest, murder of unfaithful wives and sacrifice of children on an altar were seen as good.

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@maxdancona,

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The Bible was written by strict religious people...

More likely it was some weirdo jotting down notes about what the traveling story-tellers had told.

...or out of work men, trying bide their time until harvest season arrived.

...not to mention the thousands of translations over the centuries, causing the current text to in no way match the original.

At any rate, the Bible cannot be labeled as Christian only, since most was derived from non-Christians (the Old Testament is all pre-Christ).

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@Sturgis,

What Christians call the Old Testament can rightfully be called Jewish. Although some ideas are taken from other cultures... I don't think it can be called anything other than Jewish.

The point is....whatever it is, it sure as hell wasn't woke.

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@maxdancona,

I detest the term "woke".

It is now as annoying as "awesome" !

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@Sturgis,

Sturgis wrote:

I detest the term "woke".

I think it is a perfect word. It describes the idea that 21st century Americans have somehow reached a new level of righteous understanding. Americans see themselves as superior to every other culture at every other time (except for indigenous peoples who somehow thought the exact same way that modern Americans think).

It is amazing that indigenous people agreed completely with modern intersectional White feminism.

Do you have a better word?

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@maxdancona,

The point is, there's no need to start using this word to this extent. Even far-far-exceptionally-far to the right and left are all prancing around shouting that they are now "woke". It no longer has meaning or power. As indicated, the same fate befell "awesome" .

Instead of trying to have everything hinge on one word, it would speak and show much more clearly if, people actually lived their existence in the way they want others to live. Show and lead by example.

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@Sturgis,

I disagree.... I have never seen this term applied to the right (in anything other than an ironic way).

This term adequately describes a reasonable criticism of the left... when the left starts analyzing Christmas songs, it gets ridiculous.

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@maxdancona,

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... other than ironic way.

Which proves my point. Once these words start getting bandied about, they lose their original intent.

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@Sturgis,

I am pretty sure that you understood perfectly well when I said

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[The Bible] sure as hell wasn't woke.

If you didn't, tell me... and I will spell it out for you.

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