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What's the deal with Rule 34 material?

 
 
Reply Mon 22 Jun, 2020 10:23 pm
Hi. This is something I've been a little curious about for a long time. I've been using commercialized Internet since '95, back when I was in art school. I've been using the Internet long enough to know what "Rule 34" is.

"Rule 34" is an unofficial Internet rule that states, "If it exists there is porn of it." As a Christian I have no desire to make any kind of fantasy porn in any form. A handful of people I have interacted with have tried to sway me to do that over the years, even back when I was in art school. I can't make porn of any kind in good conscience.

There was porn of stuff on the Internet since it was first commercialized back in '95, long before Rule 34 became an unofficial Internet rule. People were making porn out of things even before the advent of commercialized Internet access. The earliest examples of such porn I am aware of dates back to the '50s if I'm not mistaken. I wasn't intentionally looking for this stuff, I discovered it by accident.

Why are there deviants out there who think they "need" to make porn out of any and/or every conceivable thing out there? Especially of both old and new entertainment properties? It seems like every time a new cartoon, comic, video game, etc. comes out at least one person scrambles to make Rule 34 material out of it and have their material quickly showcased online. WHY? What's the purpose of producing any Rule 34 material?

Are people doing this for their own personal entertainment and/or amusement and/or the entertainment and/or amusement of others? Are they actually trying to give themselves and/or other people something to "get off" to? Are they doing this for the sake of doing this, like for "shock value" or to get attention? Or are they doing it for other reasons?

Please help. Thank you.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jun, 2020 10:53 pm
@JGoldman10,
Pornographic images of various types existed long before the 50s. I'd not be surprised or shocked to learn that ancient cave drawings included some.

If you don't want to do that type of thing, then don't.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 04:41 am
@Sturgis,
The "Venus of Hohle fels cave" is a female statue that was fabricated about 35040000 yers ago. So guys have been doing porn well into the past
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 09:17 am
@JGoldman10,
"Are people doing this for their own personal entertainment and/or amusement and/or the entertainment and/or amusement of others?"
Yes
"Are they actually trying to give themselves and/or other people something to "get off" to?"
Yes
"Are they doing this for the sake of doing this, like for "shock value" or to get attention?"
Yes.

Personally, I don't seek this stuff out so I tend to avoid seeing sexually explicit fan fiction and fan art.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 11:50 am
@JGoldman10,
If you’re not interested in pornography why start a thread on it?
Ragman
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 12:41 pm
@izzythepush,
Perhaps because he’s holier than thou?!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 12:49 pm
@Ragman,
Like the alcoholic who keeps telling people he doesn’t drink.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 01:00 pm
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:

Pornographic images of various types existed long before the 50s. I'd not be surprised or shocked to learn that ancient cave drawings included some.

If you don't want to do that type of thing, then don't.


I was in Pompeii back in 1956...and visited the Naples museum during that visit. Two buddies and I bribed a guard to let us up to the Pompeii pornography area. It was off-limits at that time.

Great stuff!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 01:11 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Bethany Hughes does some wonderful documentaries about the classics. I think the Pompeii porn was blurred at the interesting bits.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 01:59 pm
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Kokopelli_1.jpg
Kok0pelli with phallus, near Embudo, New Mexico
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:02 pm
@Rebelofnj,
What reasons other than the ones I listed are there to produce any Rule 34 material - cartoon stills, animations, comics, video games, etc.?

I know people do this because they want to "rape or ruin people's childhoods" but that probably falls under doing it for "shock value".

I think some people also do it for the sake of doing it. They do it to see if they can.

Do people do it because others try to pressure them to do it?
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:03 pm
@InfraBlue,
Please don't post any pornographic images.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:10 pm
@Rebelofnj,
I don't intentionally seek out any Rule 34 material online either. Do the people who produce this stuff not care about any minors seeing their stuff? It sure seems like they don't have qualms about it.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:13 pm
@JGoldman10,
A classification I thought was hilarious is stick figure porn. Didn't know that existed until I caught my boy at about 12!
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:16 pm
I was debating whether or not I wanted to tag this thread as "NSFW" but I didn't think people were actually going to post porn images in it.

To be clear:

I'm a born-again Christian. Please do not post porn images in my thread. I don't want to see them. Thank you.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:20 pm
@JGoldman10,
Typically, any explicit material is marked as NSFW on the major sites (Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, DeviantArt, etc) and is usually filtered by default.

Same with search engines: Google and Bing both have safe search on by default and try filter out any offensive content.

I browse The DC Comics, Marvel, and ComicBooks subreddits on Reddit.com, and I very rarely see any unexpected sexual content.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:23 pm
Once more: If you do not want to create this sort of material, just don't.

See? It really is quite simple.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:27 pm
@JGoldman10,
I haven't seen a case where an artist is pressured to create and post NSFW content online. Or at the very least, I haven't seen people admit they were pressured.

You already posted every possible reason for anyone to make rule 34 art. I can't give any other major reason.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:35 pm
@JGoldman10,
That is even not a pornographic image. It is a cave drawing of a Native American fertility deity. It is nothing explicit.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jun, 2020 02:42 pm
@Sturgis,
The '50s porn I was referring to was porn of old Disney characters. There's probably porn of other old cartoon characters from the '50s.

There's probably cartoon porn made that's even older.

I remember when I was in grade school or middle school some boys were drawing Transformers porn. They didn't draw robots engaging in sexual acts, they were drawing robots having "discharges", which to me is/was disturbing and gay.

Transformers was a popular cartoon series from around that time.

When I was in high school I remember there was a boy drawing naughty pics of Cleo from The Catillac Cats.


I used to draw fan art of cartoon characters when I was in public school, from grade school to high school, and even in art college, but nothing I drew was pornographic or fringed on being pornographic.


This was before commercialized internet access came about.

Around the time I first started using the internet I discovered that artists were making porn out of a lot of old '80s and '90s TV cartoons and animated films. And out of some old Hollywood cartoons.

I wasn't intentionally looking this stuff up. I used to be a big cartoon nerd or geek I was searching for SFW stuff. I was also looking up indie cartoonists and animators. Eric Schwartz was one of the earliest online animators and cartoonists I learned about - the guy who created Amy the Squirrel and Sabrina the Skunk and other characters. He's an underground artist - I'm not going to go into his work.

When I was in art school I was working at a local supermarket. A young man I was working with knew I was going to school for animation and he knew I was influenced by Looney Tunes cartoons. He told me I should make "Looney sex". I looked at the boy like he was crazy and told him "no." He looked at me and said, "Then you must not be interested in making money."

I told the boy I was a Christian and that I'm not making cartoon porn.

I remember one time on my way to or from art school in NYC I was on a bus doodling in a sketchpad and I drew a male anthropomorphic cat standing around being surrounded by a bunch of sexy-looking female anthropomorphic cats. This was one of these things I drew to see if I could. I remember there were older ladies sitting around me and they looked at me disdainfully when they saw what I drew. They must have been Christians. I felt ashamed and I think I scrapped that drawing. A young college boy shouldn't be drawing stuff like that especially if he is a Christian.

I don't draw cartoon smut.
 

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