cicerone imposter wrote:BTW, our niece got married in October with a Holloween theme. It's the only wedding we've attended that had a "theme," and it was great!
that is awesome! we got married on the beach so we encouraged everyone to dress a little beachy. upset my mom because she wanted everyone in suits and ties, but we had a great time. and it literally rained all day until about 2pm, cleared up and was sunny through the ceremony (5pm) and then we went into the reception hall which had huge windows looking out at the water, and it started thundering and lightning around 630pm-just enough time to get our pictures in. will wonders ever cease?
Re: What ONE thing would you have liked to learn early in li
val wrote:Thethinkfactory
Quote:Assuming that I have the perfect professor that is fairly close to the discipline you are speaking of (also remember that disciplines like Philosophy and Humanities can almost teach anything and be on topic) - what would you have liked to learn?
If I was a kid in your school, I think there is one thing more important than all others. So, TTF, let's go in a time travel to the past, you are looking to your class, and there is a smart kid, always trying to defy the teacher. His name is val.
And you tell him:
"All those you love will be dead in years to come. And one day, you will also die. And death is the eternal nothing. So, please, don't interrupt me anymore".
Val -
It sounds like you needed a healthy dose of Epicurus at a young age.
TTF
Re: What ONE thing would you have liked to learn early in li
thethinkfactory wrote:I am a Professor of Philosophy and Religion at a College in Houston Texas.
I had a dream last night TTF
He isn't and he didn't, everyone. He strangles mink and never blinks. Make sure he pays cash up front.
I would have liked to learn that it was okay to ask for help when you needed it.
Would have saved me a lot of grief in college!
g__day wrote:At what stage should a life plan start? Imagine if at primary school someone gave you a typical life plan divided by cycles along categories that covered friendships, dining, skills, education, travel, financial wealth, family etc - say < 15 relevant topics over the course of your life and gave you 10 slices of a 70 year life span.
So cells for ages 15 - 21 may be dominanted by freindships, finding yourself and sexual experiences - not wealth - this is finding your adult self, first jobs or university and getting laid...
Get them used to what to expect and what some of the biggest decisions they face for each of these (in this example) 10 phases of their lifecycle - then get them to think about their own lifeplan and where they want to emphasis their priorities.
a life-plan..? -a plan for filling the time you have with appropriate events and experiences? I presume that this effort would be directed towards you being able to finally say something like, 'yes, life was good', or in answer to the question how we find life, we could say 'great!'. The idea is ridiculous.
I agree.It is ridiculous.
It is worse than that too.It is posited on a pampered life and is therefore self indulgent and over simplified to the point of meaninglessness.It also takes an unrealistic view of the future by assuming every plan is going to work out.
I just want to thank everybody for an important thread!
I am just a bewildered 19-year-old myself, and need some pointers on how to manage my future.
My head just got a bit clearer... :-)
Re: What ONE thing would you have liked to learn early in li
John Jones wrote:thethinkfactory wrote:I am a Professor of Philosophy and Religion at a College in Houston Texas.
I had a dream last night TTF
He isn't and he didn't, everyone. He strangles mink and never blinks. Make sure he pays cash up front.
You don't know me - nor do you know that I am telling the truth. I do not really care to defend my chosen profession with you. It would be an excercise in futility.
I will forgive you, however, for your potentially hurtful comments.
TTF
John Jones wrote:g__day wrote:At what stage should a life plan start? Imagine if at primary school someone gave you a typical life plan divided by cycles along categories that covered friendships, dining, skills, education, travel, financial wealth, family etc - say < 15 relevant topics over the course of your life and gave you 10 slices of a 70 year life span.
So cells for ages 15 - 21 may be dominanted by freindships, finding yourself and sexual experiences - not wealth - this is finding your adult self, first jobs or university and getting laid...
Get them used to what to expect and what some of the biggest decisions they face for each of these (in this example) 10 phases of their lifecycle - then get them to think about their own lifeplan and where they want to emphasis their priorities.
a life-plan..? -a plan for filling the time you have with appropriate events and experiences? I presume that this effort would be directed towards you being able to finally say something like, 'yes, life was good', or in answer to the question how we find life, we could say 'great!'. The idea is ridiculous.
Most systematic life style systems (like Virtue Ethics) do argue for a life plan. I think what G-Day is talking about here is how human life moves in patterns. Psychologists have argued that the stages in a human life move roughly like G-Day is mentioning (When we are kids our parents are our gods - when we are teens our friends are our gods - when we are in our 20's our partner and our relationship with them are our gods and so forth).
It is you who have supposed G-Day was speaking of some prescribed conception of sucess that you then are disagreeing with. You are disagreeing with yourself and you own preconceived notions.
I think, but I don't want to put words in his mouth, he is only talking about the cycles humans move in to teach the young to notice those patterns and deal apporpriately with them.
TTF
I don't know about ONE thing.
SELF CONFIDENCE
I was dreadfully shy when I was younger and I wish I'd had a bit more self confidence. Perhaps as a result, or maybe not (who knows), I have a dreaded fear of public speaking. I cannot, for the life of me, stand up in front of a crowd of more than 5 or 6 people and speak on a subject. I freeze completely. This is so odd for me since I am not at all shy these days. I could have done with a public speaking class in my youth, or maybe some drama classes. They might have given me some experience to get over this strange fear.
RESPONSIBILITY
This lack of self confidence was a result of my extreme self awareness. I guess that is why now I am a fan of people taking responsibility for themselves and their actions. I believed that everything I did or did not do was my direct responsibility. I am of the belief to this day that I am blame for most of what happens to me. Outside influences are a minor cause and I'm accepting of accidents that happen that are not my fault but responsibility is a good thing to educate people properly about, especially in this day and age.
COMMON SENSE
There are a lot of book-smart people around what with education being at the forefront of most (not all) parents and their children. Sometimes I think a class in the less high-faluting things like how to balance a check-book, changing the oil in a car, basic plumbing skills, could sometimes bring people back to real world so they can feel more secure in their abilities. I remembered the first time I lived alone, not knowing about wiring and giving myself an electric shock before having to relent and call a professional to tighten the plate on my lightswitch. I've often thought I should take a home repair or basic carpentry course to expand my knowledge.
EMPATHY
Volunteer work in a variety of social and economic scenes have helped me to realize that I have it good and stop whining and complaining about all my perceived ills. It's a lesson in itself because not only do I get to experience lives outside of this life of mine that I chose but I also get to do something productive, see a positive result, and feel good about myself (yes I do enjoy that selfish satisfaction). It brings me back to a humanity that I could avoid if I wanted to, but shouldn't, not in this world where there will always be a need for a helping hand.
These are among the things I have learned along the way, over many years, in addition to the regular education I received. I don't know how important they are in the education of life or if even any more important than other lessons, but these are the ones that come to mind as valuable to me.
chrdani wrote:
I am just a bewildered 19-year-old myself, and need some pointers on how to manage my future.
... :-)
For your pointers to improved and corrected future life-management, send 100 dollars to this account: J I Jones Ac. No. 3535 6672 sort code 549872, HSBC Mt.St. Square, Cardiff Bay, UK.
thethinkfactory wrote:John Jones wrote:g__day wrote:At what stage should a life plan start? Imagine if at primary school someone gave you a typical life plan divided by cycles along categories that covered friendships, dining, skills, education, travel, financial wealth, family etc - say < 15 relevant topics over the course of your life and gave you 10 slices of a 70 year life span.
So cells for ages 15 - 21 may be dominanted by freindships, finding yourself and sexual experiences - not wealth - this is finding your adult self, first jobs or university and getting laid...
Get them used to what to expect and what some of the biggest decisions they face for each of these (in this example) 10 phases of their lifecycle - then get them to think about their own lifeplan and where they want to emphasis their priorities.
a life-plan..? -a plan for filling the time you have with appropriate events and experiences? I presume that this effort would be directed towards you being able to finally say something like, 'yes, life was good', or in answer to the question how we find life, we could say 'great!'. The idea is ridiculous.
Most systematic life style systems (like Virtue Ethics) do argue for a life plan. I think what G-Day is talking about here is how human life moves in patterns. Psychologists have argued that the stages in a human life move roughly like G-Day is mentioning (When we are kids our parents are our gods - when we are teens our friends are our gods - when we are in our 20's our partner and our relationship with them are our gods and so forth).
It is you who have supposed G-Day was speaking of some prescribed conception of sucess that you then are disagreeing with. You are disagreeing with yourself and you own preconceived notions.
I think, but I don't want to put words in his mouth, he is only talking about the cycles humans move in to teach the young to notice those patterns and deal apporpriately with them.
TTF
We live our lives. Then the psychologist makes a plan on how we should live our lives based on how we live our lives. If I was a psychologist how much cash could I get with this new psychology money-making wheeze (as if they aren't screwing us already with their stupid beliefs)?
JJ. that should be, ".....If I WERE a psychologist...."
How very subjunctive of you, Miss Lettybettyhettygettymarycustislee . . .
Letty wrote:JJ. that should be, ".....If I WERE a psychologist...."
Are you sure? There's only one of me, the singular case.
Grammar does not appear to be your strong suit . . .
JJ, check out Setanta's mention of the word, "subjunctive".
Setanta, you are such a case; always in such a mood. What are we to do with you? <smile>
Setanta wrote:Grammar does not appear to be your strong suit . . .
No. I mean, we say: 'I was away', 'he was away', so why not ''if I was away'?
I've always wondered that.
