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Rove was the source of the Plame leak... so it appears

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 12:54 pm
July 10, 2004
Busted: Joe Wilson Lied! -Senate Intelligence Committee

The mainstream media is paying little attention to a bombshell in the just-released Senate Intelligence Report on pre-Iraq-war intelligence. The Senate Intelligence Committee basically found that Joe Wilson lied in the course of his histrionics about his trip to Niger, Africa - searching for yellowcake uranium sales to Iraq.
A complete copy of the Senate Intelligence Report, titled "Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq" issued on July 7, 2004, is provided here.

As reported in the July 10, 2004, Washington Post:

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Wilson last year launched a public firestorm with his accusations that the administration had manipulated intelligence to build a case for war. He has said that his trip to Niger should have laid to rest any notion that Iraq sought uranium there and has said his findings were ignored by the White House.

Wilson's assertions -- both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information -- were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.

The panel found that Wilson's report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson's assertions and even the government's previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush's January 2003 State of the Union address.

Yesterday's report said that whether Iraq sought to buy lightly enriched "yellowcake" uranium from Niger is one of the few bits of prewar intelligence that remains an open question. Much of the rest of the intelligence suggesting a buildup of weapons of mass destruction was unfounded, the report said.

The report turns a harsh spotlight on what Wilson has said about his role in gathering prewar intelligence, most pointedly by asserting that his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, recommended him.

The report may bolster the rationale that administration officials provided the information not to intentionally expose an undercover CIA employee, but to call into question Wilson's bona fides as an investigator into trafficking of weapons of mass destruction. To charge anyone with a crime, prosecutors need evidence that exposure of a covert officer was intentional.

The report states that a CIA official told the Senate committee that Plame "offered up" Wilson's name for the Niger trip, then on Feb. 12, 2002, sent a memo to a deputy chief in the CIA's Directorate of Operations saying her husband "has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." The next day, the operations official cabled an overseas officer seeking concurrence with the idea of sending Wilson, the report said.

Wilson has asserted that his wife was not involved in the decision to send him to Niger.

"Valerie had nothing to do with the matter," Wilson wrote in a memoir published this year. "She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip."

Wilson stood by his assertion in an interview yesterday, saying Plame was not the person who made the decision to send him. Of her memo, he said: "I don't see it as a recommendation to send me."

(Incredible liar.)

The report said Plame told committee staffers that she relayed the CIA's request to her husband, saying, "there's this crazy report" about a purported deal for Niger to sell uranium to Iraq. The committee found Wilson had made an earlier trip to Niger in 1999 for the CIA, also at his wife's suggestion.

(Yeah. Great, fair investigation.)

The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong."

"Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the 'dates were wrong and the names were wrong' when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports," the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have "misspoken" to reporters. The documents -- purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq -- were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger.

LIAR!!!!

Wilson's reports to the CIA added to the evidence that Iraq may have tried to buy uranium in Niger, although officials at the State Department remained highly skeptical, the report said.

Wilson said that a former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki, was unaware of any sales contract with Iraq, but said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him, insisting that he meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss "expanding commercial relations" between Niger and Iraq -- which Mayaki interpreted to mean they wanted to discuss yellowcake sales. A report CIA officials drafted after debriefing Wilson said that "although the meeting took place, Mayaki let the matter drop due to UN sanctions on Iraq."

According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1998.

Still, it was the CIA that bore the brunt of the criticism of the Niger intelligence. The panel found that the CIA has not fully investigated possible efforts by Iraq to buy uranium in Niger to this day, citing reports from a foreign service and the U.S. Navy about uranium from Niger destined for Iraq and stored in a warehouse in Benin.

The agency did not examine forged documents that have been widely cited as a reason to dismiss the purported effort by Iraq until months after it obtained them. The panel said it still has "not published an assessment to clarify or correct its position on whether or not Iraq was trying to purchase uranium from Africa."

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So - Wilson benefitted from a little nepotism. His wife got him an all-expenses-paid little excursion to Niger. And, to make it better, he got a chance to throw mud at the Bush Administration - which was clearly not liked by Mr. Wilson and Ms. Plame from the get-go. As the article makes clear, Ms. Plame had pre-judged the uranium sales story before she even sent her hubby - she pre-judged it as "this crazy report."

In this context, if a "Senior Administration Official" let it be known that Wilson jetted off to Africa to sip sweet tea because his wife got him the gig ... they were right to do so. The fact that Wilson's wife got him the gig - and the fact that Wilson's wife pre-judged the whole purpose of the trip as a "crazy report" - make it crystal clear that Wilson's trip had little value (to put it mildly).

Indeed, as the Senate Intelligence Committee's report made clear, Wilson's trip was so lame that it had the unintended consequence (I'm sure much to Wilson's and Plame's horror) of bolstering the Adminsitration's argument that Iraq had sought uranium in Africa.

The transparent fraud of Joe Wilson's histrionics is now laid bare for all to see. Not surprisingly, it looks like tea sippin' Joe still doesn't quite get it.
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And, he's not the only one...
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 01:00 pm
hmmm.

bush lied. wilson lied.

plame was an analyist. plame was an operative.

leaking is a felony. leaking is simply stupid.

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none of that explains why, if wilson went against bush...

why did bush go after wilson's wife rather than wilson himself ?


not a lot of family values there, is there?


CHRISSIE: thanks for the pbs link to rove bio. i haven't seen it all yet.

but i did take note that it would appear that rove and dan rather have had rcognition of each other going back over 30 years.

quite similarly to the relationship enjoyed (???) by john kerry and john o'neill of the swiftboat vets.

ahhh. the suspense is mounting...

off to the lobby for more popcorn.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 01:03 pm
They wanted the public to know how Wilson got the assignment, to underline why the CIA would choose someone with no intelligence training--and to underline his (and her) desire to screw with Bush.

It needed to be known.
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Chrissee
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 01:13 pm
Bold prediction: Rove will resign citing fatigue after all these years in politics and that the conservative movement is in good shape, so he's done his job, yada, yada, yada.

Stay tuned.
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Chrissee
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 01:15 pm
Chrissee wrote:
For a great background on the evil-doer Rove, view this Frontline documentary: Karl Rove, the Architect


This is the link in case anyone missed it.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 01:29 pm
several entries have stated : "...rove's attorney said ... ".

my understanding is that a person's attorney is hired and paid to work for and defend that person .
the attorney is NEVER HIRED TO SPEAK THE TRUTH or to assist in any way in fingering his/her client! (if that were a requirement, attorneys would not have any busines left).
even the most dispicable criminal is entitled to rely on the defence of the attorney to the , sometimes bitter , end .
i know that sometimes we cringe when an attorney defends a person that we think is guilty for sure, but that is our system of justice. i don't think anyone has found a better one yet . hbg
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 01:30 pm
Chrissee wrote:
Bold prediction: Rove will resign citing fatigue after all these years in politics and that the conservative movement is in good shape, so he's done his job, yada, yada, yada.

Stay tuned.


Like your prediction that John F. (Reporting for Duty) Kerry would win in a landslide? We all know how that went Smile

Don't bet the ranch on the 'evil-genius' Rove resigning Smile
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 01:41 pm
hamburger--

I can understand you not beliving Rove's aty with the lack of vidence so far.

Do you believe those insinuating Rove's guilt? They have produced just as much evidence as Rove's atty.
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Chrissee
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 01:56 pm
Lash wrote:
hamburger--

I can understand you not beliving Rove's aty with the lack of vidence so far.

Do you believe those insinuating Rove's guilt? They have produced just as much evidence as Rove's atty.


Obviously, it is all speculation. Remember the debate tapes that were sent to Gore? Also the cigarettes allegedly given to the Wisconsin 2000 voters. I belive Rove was the author of both of those reverse dirty tricks. I have absolutely no evidence of that but, knowing Rove's history, my intuition tells me Rove masterminded these rather briliant dirty tricks. The guy really is a mastermind and because he is so smart he has avoided, in most cases, getting nailed for his dastardly deeds.

I suspect that the quails have finally come home to roost for karly boy. Just a hunch and maybe just wishful thinking. We'll see.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 01:59 pm
Lash wrote:
They wanted the public to know how Wilson got the assignment, to underline why the CIA would choose someone with no intelligence training--and to underline his (and her) desire to screw with Bush.

It needed to be known.


but surely it would be common knowledge that wilson was not a bush fan. he had backed al gore.

here's another, less sinister, reason why the cia would consider wilson to go to niger...


Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, IV

Ambassador Wilson served as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council from June 1997 until July 1998. In that capacity he was responsible for the coordination of U.S. policy to the 48 countries of sub-Saharan Africa, He was one of the principal architecs of President Clinton's historic trip to Africa in March 1998.

Ambassador Wilson was the Political Advisor to the Commander-in-Chief of United States Armed Forces, Europe, 1995-1997. He served as the U.S. Ambassador to the Gabonese Republic and to the Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe from 1992 to 1995. From 1998 to 1991, Ambassador Wilson served in Baghdad, Iraq as Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy. During ''Desert Shield'' he was the acting Ambassador and was responsible for the negotiations that resulted in the release of several hundred American hostages. He was the last official American to meet with Saddam Hussein before the launching of ''Desert Storm.''

Ambassador Wilson was a member of the U.S. Diplomatic Service from 1976 until 1998. His early assignments included Niamey, Niger, 1976-1978; Lome, Togo, 1978-79; the State Department Brueau of African Affairs, 1979-1981; and Pretoria, South Africa, 1981-1982.

In 1982, he was appointed Deputy Chief of Mission in Bujumbura, Burundi. In 1985-1986, he served in the offices of Senator Albert Gore and the House Majority Whip, Representative Thomas Foley, as an American Political Science Association Congressional Fellow. He was Deputy Chief of Mission in Brazzaville, Congo, 1986-88, prior to his assignment to Baghdad.

cpsag.com/our_team/wilson


also, here's what president george herbert walker bush thought of joseph wilson;

Quote:
Wilson was also the last acting US ambassador in Iraq before the Gulf War, a military action he supported. In that post, he helped evacuate thousands of foreigners from Kuwait, worked to get over 120 American hostages out Iraq, and sheltered about 800 Americans in the embassy compound. At the time, Novak's then-partner, Rowland Evans, wrote that Wilson displayed "the stuff of heroism." And President George H. W. Bush commended Wilson: "Your courageous leadership during this period of great danger for American interests and American citizens has my admiration and respect. I salute, too, your skillful conduct of our tense dealings with the government of Iraq....The courage and tenacity you have exhibited throughout this ordeal prove that you are the right person for the job."

thenation.com


so it seems that wilson has been just fine as far as the whitehouse was concerned for 30+years.

now, suddenly, he's not ? he's just a liar ?

that's not logical.

no. what is logical and much more plausable is; wilson had a long background in on site african affairs (i.e. contacts...) and experience in iraq.

somehow, i doubt his wife was the only person at the c.i.a. that was aware of that.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 02:03 pm
JustWonders wrote:
Chrissee wrote:
Bold prediction: Rove will resign citing fatigue after all these years in politics and that the conservative movement is in good shape, so he's done his job, yada, yada, yada.

Stay tuned.


Like your prediction that John F. (Reporting for Duty) Kerry would win in a landslide? We all know how that went Smile

Don't bet the ranch on the 'evil-genius' Rove resigning Smile


yo jw ! back from the vacay ? hope your travels were fanastico.


just a gentle reminder here.. dubya didn't "win by a landslide" either. :wink:
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 02:05 pm
Let's say Wilson was the perfect man for the job.

He lied. He didn't do a decent investigation, which was pointed out by the Senate. Actually, the info he brought back made them lean further toward thinking Bush was right and Iraq HAD sought Yellowcake.

Did you read the Senate Findings?

If you or anyone else is actually interested in the truth about Niger, yellowcake and Joe Wilson, go to Factcheck.org

Bush didn't lie. Wilson did. Why did Wilson say his wife didn't suggest him?
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 02:05 pm
Hiya DTOM!! Yup...but packing up for another LOL! Bush and his tax cuts have been good to me Smile

Just a gentle reminder here...John-the-war-hero-Kerry didn't win at all Smile And, certainly not by a landslide ... as was the original prediction Smile
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 02:08 pm
Lash...in the Senate intel report, there's irrefutable evidence that Plame recommended him. Not only once, LOL.

Starts on p.39, I think.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 02:09 pm
Lash wrote:
Let's say Wilson was the perfect man for the job.

He lied. He didn't do a decent investigation, which was pointed out by the Senate. Actually, the info he brought back made them lean further toward thinking Bush was right and Iraq HAD sought Yellowcake.

Did you read the Senate Findings?

If you or anyone else is actually interested in the truth about Niger, yellowcake and Joe Wilson, go to Factcheck.org

Bush didn't lie. Wilson did. Why did Wilson say his wife didn't suggest him?


i haven't finished it all yet, lash. i read through the conclusions, particularly the parts on niger.

it in no way said that wilson lied that i could see.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 02:17 pm
It says that he didn't even call a phone number that was given as a contact about the alleged Iraqi attempt to buy yellowcake.

He said he did a thorough investigation.

The Senate Committee also found a memo by his wife, suggesting him for the trip. He had said she didn't do it.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 02:20 pm
JustWonders wrote:
Lash...in the Senate intel report, there's irrefutable evidence that Plame recommended him. Not only once, LOL.

Starts on p.39, I think.


i looked but didn't see it. what passage are you referring to ?

i have to go to home depot, so don't be offended if i don't respond right away. the "honey do list" beckons... Sad
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 02:25 pm
Both the Butler report and the Senate Intelligence Committee report make clear that Bush's 16 words weren't based on the fake documents. The British didn't even see them until after issuing the reports -- based on other sources -- that Bush quoted in his 16 words. But discovery of the Italian fraud did trigger a belated reassessment of the Iraq/Niger story by the CIA.

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From the factcheck.org link above.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 02:42 pm
Lash, you are posting accusations about Wilson that have already been debunked.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/07/16/wilson_letter/index_np.htm

Quote:
July 15, 2004
The Hon. Pat Roberts, Chairman, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

The Hon. Jay Rockefeller, Vice Chairman, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

Dear Sen. Roberts and Sen. Rockefeller,

I read with great surprise and consternation the Niger portion of Sens. Roberts, Bond and Hatch's additional comments to the Senate Select Intelligence Committee's Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Assessment on Iraq. I am taking this opportunity to clarify some of the issues raised in these comments.

First conclusion: "The plan to send the former ambassador to Niger was suggested by the former ambassador's wife, a CIA employee."
That is not true. The conclusion is apparently based on one anodyne quote from a memo Valerie Plame, my wife, sent to her superiors that says, "My husband has good relations with the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." There is no suggestion or recommendation in that statement that I be sent on the trip.
Indeed it is little more than a recitation of my contacts and bona fides. The conclusion is reinforced by comments in the body of the report that a CPD [Counterproliferation Division] reports officer stated that "the former ambassador's wife 'offered up his name'" (page 39) and a State Department intelligence and research officer stated that the "meeting was 'apparently convened by [the former ambassador's] wife who had the idea to dispatch him to use his contacts to sort out the Iraq-Niger uranium issue."

In fact, Valerie was not in the meeting at which the subject of my trip was raised. Neither was the CPD reports officer. After having escorted me into the room, she [Valerie] departed the meeting to avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest. It was at that meeting where the question of my traveling to Niger was broached with me for the first time and came only after a thorough discussion of what the participants did and did not know about the subject. My bona fides justifying the invitation to the meeting were the trip I had previously taken to Niger to look at other uranium-related questions as well as 20 years living and working in Africa, and personal contacts throughout the Niger government. Neither the CPD reports officer nor the State analyst were in the chain of command to know who, or how, the decision was made. The interpretations attributed to them are not the full story. In fact, it is my understanding that the reports officer has a different conclusion about Valerie's role than the one offered in the "additional comments." I urge the committee to reinterview the officer and publicly publish his statement.

It is unfortunate that the report failed to include the CIA's position on this matter. If the staff had done so it would undoubtedly have been given the same evidence as provided to Newsday reporters Tim Phelps and Knut Royce in July 2003. They reported on July 22 that:

"A senior intelligence officer confirmed that Plame was a Directorate of Operations undercover officer who worked 'alongside' the operations officers who asked her husband to travel to Niger. But he said she did not recommend her husband to undertake the Niger assignment. 'They [the officers who did ask Wilson to check the uranium story] were aware of who she was married to, which is not surprising,' he said. 'There are people elsewhere in government who are trying to make her look like she was the one who was cooking this up, for some reason,' he said. 'I can't figure out what it could be.' 'We paid his [Wilson's] airfare. But to go to Niger is not exactly a benefit. Most people you'd have to pay big bucks to go there,' the senior intelligence official said. Wilson said he was reimbursed only for expenses." (Newsday article "Columnist Blows CIA Agent's Cover," dated July 22, 2003).

In fact, on July 13 of this year, David Ensor, the CNN correspondent, did call the CIA for a statement of its position and reported that a senior CIA official confirmed my account that Valerie did not propose me for the trip:

"'She did not propose me,' he [Wilson] said -- others at the CIA did so. A senior CIA official said that is his understanding too."


Second conclusion: "Rather than speaking publicly about his actual experiences during his inquiry of the Niger issue, the former ambassador seems to have included information he learned from press accounts and from his beliefs about how the Intelligence Community would have or should have handled the information he provided."

This conclusion states that I told the committee staff that I "may have become confused about my own recollection after the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) reported that the names and dates on the documents were not correct." At the time that I was asked that question, I was not afforded the opportunity to review the articles to which the staff was referring. I have now done so.

On March 7, 2003, the director general of the IAEA reported to the U.N. Security Council that the documents that had been given to him were "not authentic." His deputy, Jacques Baute, was even more direct, pointing out that the forgeries were so obvious that a quick Google search would have exposed their flaws. A State Department spokesman was quoted the next day as saying about the forgeries, "We fell for it." From that time on the details surrounding the documents became public knowledge and were widely reported. I was not the source of information regarding the forensic analysis of the documents in question; the IAEA was.


The first time I spoke publicly about the Niger issue was in response to the State Department's disclaimer. On CNN a few days later, in response to a question, I replied that I believed the U.S. government knew more about the issue than the State Department spokesman had let on and that he had misspoken. I did not speak of my trip.

My first public statement was in my article of July 6 published in the New York Times, written only after it became apparent that the administration was not going to deal with the Niger question unless it was forced to. I wrote the article because I believed then, and I believe now, that it was important to correct the record on the statement in the president's State of the Union address which lent credence to the charge that Iraq was actively reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. I believed that the record should reflect the facts as the U.S. government had known them for over a year. The contents of my article do not appear in the body of the report and it is not quoted in the "additional comments." In that article, I state clearly that "as for the actual memorandum, I never saw it. But news accounts have pointed out that the documents had glaring errors -- they were signed, for example, by officials who were no longer in government -- and were probably forged. (And then there's the fact that Niger formally denied the charges.)"

The first time I actually saw what were represented as the documents was when Andrea Mitchell, the NBC correspondent, handed them to me in an interview on July 21. I was not wearing my glasses and could not read them. I have to this day not read them. I would have absolutely no reason to claim to have done so. My mission was to look into whether such a transaction took place or could take place. It had not and could not. By definition that makes the documents bogus.

The text of the "additional comments" also asserts that "during Mr. Wilson's media blitz, he appeared on more than thirty television shows including entertainment venues. Time and again, Joe Wilson told anyone who would listen that the President had lied to the American people, that the Vice President had lied, and that he had 'debunked' the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa."

My article in the New York Times makes clear that I attributed to myself "a small role in the effort to verify information about Africa's suspected link to Iraq's nonconventional weapons programs." After it became public that there were then-Ambassador to Niger Barbro Owens-Kirkpatrick's report and the report from a four-star Marine Corps general, Carleton Fulford, in the files of the U.S. government, I went to great lengths to point out that mine was but one of three reports on the subject. I never claimed to have "debunked" the allegation that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa. I claimed only that the transaction described in the documents that turned out to be forgeries could not have occurred and did not occur. I did not speak out on the subject until several months after it became evident that what underpinned the assertion in the State of the Union address were those documents, reports of which had sparked Vice President Cheney's original question that led to my trip. The White House must have agreed. The day after my article appeared in the Times a spokesman for the president told the Washington Post that "the sixteen words did not rise to the level of inclusion in the State of the Union."


I have been very careful to say that while I believe that the use of the 16 words in the State of the Union address was a deliberate attempt to deceive the Congress of the United States, I do not know what role the president may have had other than he has accepted responsibility for the words he spoke. I have also said on many occasions that I believe the president has proven to be far more protective of his senior staff than they have been to him.

The "additional comments" also assert: "The Committee found that, for most analysts, the former ambassador's report lent more credibility, not less, to the reported Niger-Iraq uranium deal." In fact, the body of the Senate report suggests the exact opposite:

In August 2002, a CIA NESA [Office of Near Eastern and South Asian Analysis] report on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities did not include the alleged Iraq-Niger uranium information. (page 48)

In September 2002, during coordination of a speech with an NSC staff member, the CIA analyst suggested the reference to Iraqi attempts to acquire uranium from Africa be removed. The CIA analyst said the NSC staff member said that would leave the British "flapping in the wind." (page 50)

The uranium text was included in the body of the NIE [National Intelligence Estimate] but not in the key judgments. When someone suggested that the uranium information be included as another sign of reconstitution, the INR [State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research] Iraq nuclear analyst spoke up and said the he did not agree with the uranium reporting and that INR would be including text indicating their disagreement in their footnote on nuclear reconstitution. The NIO [national intelligence officer] said he did not recall anyone really supporting including the uranium issue as part of the judgment that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear program, so he suggested that the uranium information did not need to be part of the key judgments. He told committee staff that he suggested, "We'll leave it in the paper for completeness. Nobody can say we didn't connect the dots. But we don't have to put that dot in the key judgments." (page 53)

On Oct. 2, 2002, the Deputy DCI [director of central intelligence] testified before the SSCI [Senate Select Committee on Intelligence]. Sen. Jon Kyl asked the Deputy DCI whether he had read the British White Paper and whether he disagreed with anything in the report. The Deputy DCI testified that "the one thing where I think they stretched a little bit beyond where we would stretch is on the points about Iraq seeking uranium from various African locations." (page 54)

On Oct. 4, 2002, the NIO for Strategic and Nuclear Programs testified that "there is some information on attempts ... there's a question about those attempts because of the control of the material in those countries ... For us it's more the concern that they [Iraq] have uranium in-country now." (page 54)

On Oct. 5, 2002, the ADDI [associate deputy director for intelligence] said an Iraqi nuclear analyst -- he could not remember who -- raised concerns about the sourcing and some of the facts of the Niger reporting, specifically that the control of the mines in Niger would have made it very difficult to get yellowcake to Iraq. (page 55)

Based on the analyst's comments, the ADDI faxed a memo to the deputy national security advisor that said, "Remove the sentence because the amount is in dispute and it is debatable whether it can be acquired from this source. We told Congress that the Brits have exaggerated this issue. Finally, the Iraqis already have 550 metric tons of uranium oxide in their inventory." (page 56)

On Oct. 6, 2002, the DCI called the deputy national security advisor directly to outline the CIA's concerns. The DCI testified to the SSCI on July 16, 2003, that he told the deputy national security advisor that the "President should not be a fact witness on this issue," because his analysts had told him the "reporting was weak." (page 56)

On Oct. 6, 2002, the CIA sent a second fax to the White House that said, "More on why we recommend removing the sentence about procuring uranium oxide from Africa: Three points (1) The evidence is weak. One of the two mines cited by the source as the location of the uranium oxide is flooded. The other mine cited by the source is under the control of the French authorities. (2) The procurement is not particularly significant to Iraq's nuclear ambitions because the Iraqis already have a large stock of uranium oxide in their inventory. And (3) we have shared points one and two with Congress, telling them that the Africa story is overblown and telling them this is one of the two issues where we differed with the British." (page 56)

On March 8, 2003, the intelligence report on my trip was disseminated within the U.S. government, according to the Senate report (page 43). Further, the Senate report states that "in early March, the Vice President asked his morning briefer for an update on the Niger uranium issue." That update from the CIA "also noted that the CIA would be debriefing a source who may have information related to the alleged sale on March 5." The report then states the "DO officials also said they alerted WINPAC [Center for Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation and Arms Control] analysts when the report was being disseminated because they knew the high priority of the issue." The report notes that the CIA briefer did not brief the vice president on the report. (page 46)

It is clear from the body of the Senate report that the intelligence community, including the DCI himself, made several attempts to ensure that the president did not become a "fact witness" on an allegation that was so weak. A thorough reading of the report substantiates the claim made in my opinion piece in the New York Times and in subsequent interviews I have given on the subject. The 16 words should never have been in the State of the Union address, as the White House now acknowledges.

I undertook this mission at the request of my government in response to a legitimate concern that Saddam Hussein was attempting to reconstitute his nuclear weapons program. This was a national security issue that has concerned me since I was the deputy chief of mission in the U.S. Embassy in Iraq before and during the first Gulf War.

At the time of my trip I was in private business and had not offered my views publicly on the policy we should adopt toward Iraq. Indeed, throughout the debate in the run-up to the war, I took the position that the U.S. be firm with Saddam Hussein on the question of weapons of mass destruction programs, including backing tough diplomacy with the credible threat of force. In that debate I never mentioned my trip to Niger. I did not share the details of my trip until May 2003, after the war was over, and then only when it became clear that the administration was not going to address the issue of the State of the Union statement.

It is essential that the errors and distortions in the additional comments be corrected for the public record. Nothing could be more important for the American people than to have an accurate picture of the events that led to the decision to bring the United States into war in Iraq. The Senate Intelligence Committee has an obligation to present to the American people the factual basis of that process. I hope that this letter is helpful in that effort. I look forward to your further "additional comments."

Sincerely,
Joseph C. Wilson IV, Washington, D.C.
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Wilson's letter debunked nothing, in it he merely contested the Senate Committee's findings, maintaining the position the Senate Committee had determined to be questionable. The Senate Committee has not retracted, nor even modified, its statement. It stands as a Senate Committee Finding.


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Plame's Input Is Cited on Niger Mission

Report Disputes Wilson's Claims on Trip, Wife's Role

By Susan Schmidt
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, July 10, 2004; Page A09


Former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, dispatched by the CIA in February 2002 to investigate reports that Iraq sought to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program with uranium from Africa, was specifically recommended for the mission by his wife, a CIA employee, contrary to what he has said publicly.



Wilson last year launched a public firestorm with his accusations that the administration had manipulated intelligence to build a case for war. He has said that his trip to Niger should have laid to rest any notion that Iraq sought uranium there and has said his findings were ignored by the White House.

Wilson's assertions -- both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information -- were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.

The panel found that Wilson's report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson's assertions and even the government's previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush's January 2003 State of the Union address.

Yesterday's report said that whether Iraq sought to buy lightly enriched "yellowcake" uranium from Niger is one of the few bits of prewar intelligence that remains an open question.
Much of the rest of the intelligence suggesting a buildup of weapons of mass destruction was unfounded, the report said.

The report turns a harsh spotlight on what Wilson has said about his role in gathering prewar intelligence, most pointedly by asserting that his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, recommended him.

Plame's role could be significant in an ongoing investigation into whether a crime was committed when her name and employment were disclosed to reporters last summer.

Administration officials told columnist Robert D. Novak then that Wilson, a partisan critic of Bush's foreign policy, was sent to Niger at the suggestion of Plame, who worked in the nonproliferation unit at CIA. The disclosure of Plame's identity, which was classified, led to an investigation into who leaked her name.

The report may bolster the rationale that administration officials provided the information not to intentionally expose an undercover CIA employee, but to call into question Wilson's bona fides as an investigator into trafficking of weapons of mass destruction. To charge anyone with a crime, prosecutors need evidence that exposure of a covert officer was intentional.

The report states that a CIA official told the Senate committee that Plame "offered up" Wilson's name for the Niger trip, then on Feb. 12, 2002, sent a memo to a deputy chief in the CIA's Directorate of Operations saying her husband "has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." The next day, the operations official cabled an overseas officer seeking concurrence with the idea of sending Wilson, the report said.

Wilson has asserted that his wife was not involved in the decision to send him to Niger.

"Valerie had nothing to do with the matter," Wilson wrote in a memoir published this year. "She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip."


Wilson stood by his assertion in an interview yesterday, saying Plame was not the person who made the decision to send him. Of her memo, he said: "I don't see it as a recommendation to send me."

The report said Plame told committee staffers that she relayed the CIA's request to her husband, saying, "there's this crazy report" about a purported deal for Niger to sell uranium to Iraq. The committee found Wilson had made an earlier trip to Niger in 1999 for the CIA, also at his wife's suggestion.

The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong."

"Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the 'dates were wrong and the names were wrong' when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports," the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have "misspoken" to reporters. The documents -- purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq -- were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger.

Wilson's reports to the CIA added to the evidence that Iraq may have tried to buy uranium in Niger, although officials at the State Department remained highly skeptical, the report said.

Wilson said that a former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki, was unaware of any sales contract with Iraq, but said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him, insisting that he meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss "expanding commercial relations" between Niger and Iraq -- which Mayaki interpreted to mean they wanted to discuss yellowcake sales. A report CIA officials drafted after debriefing Wilson said that "although the meeting took place, Mayaki let the matter drop due to UN sanctions on Iraq."

According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1998.

Still, it was the CIA that bore the brunt of the criticism of the Niger intelligence. The panel found that the CIA has not fully investigated possible efforts by Iraq to buy uranium in Niger to this day, citing reports from a foreign service and the U.S. Navy about uranium from Niger destined for Iraq and stored in a warehouse in Benin.

The agency did not examine forged documents that have been widely cited as a reason to dismiss the purported effort by Iraq until months after it obtained them. The panel said it still has "not published an assessment to clarify or correct its position on whether or not Iraq was trying to purchase uranium from Africa."


© 2004 The Washington Post Company


So at the very least, Wilson's credibility has been called to question - by himself, by his wife, by the CIA, and by the Senate Committe. Which is to be believed - independently cross-corroborating testimony, with supporting documentation, or Wilson's inconsistent, contradictory pronouncements?

Meanwhile, back at The Downing Street Memo, of which some folks are so fond, it appears there may be more dust than storm.

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Jonathan Gurwitz: Downing Memo fuels hatred


Web Posted: 06/26/2005 12:00 AM CDT





San Antonio Express-News

On June 12, London's Sunday Times published the contents of an allegedly secret, 3-year-old document issued to British Prime Minister Tony Blair's national security team. Dated July 21, 2002, the memo has the following entry under the heading "U.S. Military Planning:"

"Although no political decisions have been taken, U.S. military planners have drafted options for the U.S. Government to undertake an invasion of Iraq."

This sentence from the Cabinet Office paper, as it is known, directly contradicts another purportedly secret British government document the Times published on May 1.

The so-called Downing Street memo, dated July 23, 2002, states "intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy" to remove Saddam Hussein with military action.

If the Downing Street memo is legitimate and its intelligence assessment accurate, it would "establish a prima facie case of going to war under false pretenses," as Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., put it in a mock impeachment of President Bush that took place in the Capitol basement June 16.

Is the Downing Street memo legitimate? It turns out that it, like the Cabinet Office paper and six other supposedly secret British documents related to prewar decision-making, have a mysterious provenance.

British reporter Michael Smith conceded he had typed copies of the documents on plain paper and destroyed the originals to protect the identity of his source


Now, there are claims all over the blogosphere that the originals were not destroyed. So, some say they were, some say they weren't. Whether or not they were destroyed, whether or not they were real, whether or not they were returned, one fact remains: They have not been produced, and all that is KNOWN is that it is claimed they existed.

I guess only a committed Bushophobe could find any way to see any of this stacking up in the Dem's favor.

Dan Rather School of Journalism, anyone?
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