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Rove was the source of the Plame leak... so it appears

 
 
Stradee
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 09:53 pm
JustWonders,
Who is Plume? <my typos legendary> LOL

Timber, the WH spinmasters <of the highest caliber, btw> will counter the charges saying Rove was vitimized by "bad intelligence", or some such other excuse for placing the ball in someone elses court.

Perhaps as you say, nothing will come of the charges. Perhaps.
I believe that Rove should be handed an orange jumpsuit, Gideon, and sent to Pelican Bay.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 10:18 pm
Don't get your hopes up. And I wouldn't venture to say "nothing will come of this", my conjecture is that what will come of this will provide The Opposition with considerable dismay.

And I believe that Reid, Durbin, Pelosi, Boxer, Kennedy, Kerry, Dean, et al, each ought to be provided a bottle of fine brandy, a bible, a loaded pistol, and some privacy. Then again, in such circumstance, I suppose only the brandy would see any use.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 10:26 pm
Stradee wrote:
JustWonders,
Who is Plume? <my typos legendary> LOL

Timber, the WH spinmasters <of the highest caliber, btw> will counter the charges saying Rove was vitimized by "bad intelligence", or some such other excuse for placing the ball in someone elses court.

Perhaps as you say, nothing will come of the charges. Perhaps.
I believe that Rove should be handed an orange jumpsuit, Gideon, and sent to Pelican Bay.


Just hauled off to Pelican Bay, huh? So much for tolerance and the 'innocent until proven guilty' thing LOL!

In Isikoff's Newsweek article he says that...

Rove himself had testified before the grand jury "two or three times" and signed a waiver authorizing reporters to testify about their conversations with him.

Does that sound like someone with something to hide?
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kickycan
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 10:28 pm
Of course not. He's as clean as a pig snout in a bucket of ****.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 10:30 pm
That prejudice. Doesn't even care if he's innocent.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 10:43 pm
Ah, then you concede your list of noted Democrats' sins arn't deserving of incarceration then? You've restored my faith, Timber!

Not likely they'd be partying at a Holiday Inn with booze and ammo though. To much like what the administration does each day at the WH.

Something will come of the Pume case, and very well should.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 11:03 pm
"Just hauled off to Pelican Bay, huh? So much for tolerance and the 'innocent until proven guilty' thing LOL!"

In Isikoff's Newsweek article he says that...

Rove himself had testified before the grand jury "two or three times" and signed a waiver authorizing reporters to testify about their conversations with him.

Does that sound like someone with something to hide"


Yep - so why didn't he just say that before the grand jury indictments?


<definitely an orange jumpsuit kinda guy...> Very Happy
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 11:45 pm
Stradee wrote:
Ah, then you concede your list of noted Democrats' sins arn't deserving of incarceration then? You've restored my faith, Timber!

Not likely they'd be partying at a Holiday Inn with booze and ammo though.


<chuckle>

As for "Don't get it", I rest my case.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 07:19 am
Lash wrote:
Just as I thought.

Timber's article:

Lawyer Tells 'Wash Post' Rove Did Nothing Wrong
By E&P Staff
Published: July 02, 2005 10:00 PM ET

<snip>
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I hope they sue O'Donnell.

Ehm .. am I missing something here?

All this article contains is quotes of Rove's attorney saying he's innocent.

Uhm, yeah. And?
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 07:30 am
Stradee wrote:
Yep - so why didn't he just say that before the grand jury indictments?


Say what, dear?

And...what indictments?

Whatcha talkin' 'bout?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 07:42 am
assuming that GJI's come down, they will have to add "lying to a constituted judicial body" .

Dys, the list of incredulity gets longer and longer. Sorta 1984 "plus twenty"
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 08:08 am
Heh.

What do you expect Rove's lawyers to do, come out and say that he's guilty?

Why does he even have a lawyer who is consulting him on this matter in the first place?

What makes you think that Fitzgerald would TELL Rove that he was the focus of the investigation (especially if Perjury had become the real charge?)

What do you think Rove told Fitzgerald those three times they met?

Who do you think will take the fall for all of this?

These, and other questions, will be answered!

And this mostly confirms my opinion:

Quote:
Don't get your hopes up. And I wouldn't venture to say "nothing will come of this", my conjecture is that what will come of this will provide The Opposition with considerable dismay.


You know things are going right when Timber starts predicting Doom for Dems. The only time I saw him do the opposite, Bush won the election; since then things have not exactly been going the way he states they will...

Cheers

Cycloptichorn

(this will be interesting, for sure)
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 08:12 am
nimh wrote:

Ehm .. am I missing something here?

All this article contains is quotes of Rove's attorney saying he's innocent.

Uhm, yeah. And?


That's what I thought, too. IF he is in fact guilty, what would the spin be? What this suggests to me is that there are records showing that Rove spoke to the reporter. It doesn't say much about WHAT he said to the reporter. (IF he is guilty, and IF there are records showing he had contact, "Yes he talked to the guy but he didn't break any laws" is what his lawyer would say. And?)

Nothing much new today in the news, same stuff as yesterday plus around of "well his lawyer says..." stuff. Definitely interested in seeing how it develops.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 08:48 am
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 08:56 am
nimh wrote:
Lash wrote:
Just as I thought.

Timber's article:

Lawyer Tells 'Wash Post' Rove Did Nothing Wrong
By E&P Staff
Published: July 02, 2005 10:00 PM ET

<snip>
----
I hope they sue O'Donnell.

Ehm .. am I missing something here?

All this article contains is quotes of Rove's attorney saying he's innocent.

Uhm, yeah. And?

And I hope they sue O'Donnell. He smeared Rove without any proof. The Newsweek article was supposed to come out with the "Rove did it" piece, but if you'll notice, most of the stories are "O'Donnell said Rove did it."

I think O'Donnell has stepped in it.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 08:58 am
This:

The attorney, Robert Luskin said that Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor in the Plame case, assured him in October and again last week that Rove is not a target of his investigation.

...didn't mean anything to you?
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 09:03 am
I tend not to attach any all too crucial credibility to what the attorney of a suspected person says people really said or really happened.

I wouldnt quickly quote that attorney's version of events and conclude, see? nothing happened.

Definitely not forgotten by next Wednesday, I dont think.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 09:05 am
I'm not concluding. I'm providing a balance for those who ARE concluding.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 09:09 am
JustWonders wrote:
Stradee wrote:
Yep - so why didn't he just say that before the grand jury indictments?


Say what, dear?

And...what indictments?

Whatcha talkin' 'bout?


oops, thatabe a 'summons' to testify at a grand jury hearing.
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au1929
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jul, 2005 09:21 am
Following and enjoying the puppet master has been revealed as the latest deep throat.
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