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Rove was the source of the Plame leak... so it appears

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 01:53 pm
You can look back through my posts. I don't think I've ever said that Karl Rove is guilty of anything yet. Many times I have cautioned others that this investigation could easily lead to other places besides Rove.

When have I pronounced Rove guilty of a crime? I'm not a judge or jury. I have posted many opinions and articles stating my firm, and confirmed, belief that Rove has been INVOLVED with the outing of many CIA agents in this incident. Not even close to the Straw Man which you have proposed in your last post.

The 'entire mainstream media' sure hasn't come to the conclusion that Rove is completely and 100% innocent of all crimes in this matter OR that he will escape this unscathed. There has been a lot of discussion as to what the actual law prohibiting the outing of agents says, and that it is difficult to prosecute Rove for this (though not impossible); but none saying that Rove is innocent of all charges.

What exactly, for clarity, are you stating that the Mainstream media has all said?

Cycloptichorn
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pngirouard
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 01:55 pm
Hello Foxfyre.

You seem to jump to conclusions a little too fast:

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Karl Rove is guilty of no wrong doing in this matter; he is certainly guilty of no crime


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I am saying what all the mainstream media is now saying. If you have an OBJECTIVE, non-partisan source that shows that he is guilty, put it out there.


That's a little too early to say. On the criminal side, the investigation is not finished and lets never forget that Rove told Chris Matthews that Ambassador Wilson's wife and her undercover status were "fair game." Quite an assertion.

While none is guilty until proven so, it is also true that none of the media is declaring Rove, Libby or Abrams, the prime "persons of interest", innocent. And whether the prosecution gets enough evidence to at least indict is open to speculation.

And there are other issues that fall beyond the criminal investigation about the propriety of the current administration and the three above stooges. The current silence speaks volumes as to the current administration dilemma as how to deal with the leak, for whether you like it or not there was one through the servility of Bob Novak. Plume was outed. A career was ruined.

The administration never once denied the intent on the leak: to destroy Wilson and his wife, a long time Republican strategy to defuse information embarrassing to them. The examples are quite numerous under this administration. Even republicans as John McCain know it.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 01:56 pm
Again how secret was Valerie Plame's name when Joe Wilson used it in his Who's Who entry and also posted it on his website?

I am conceding that none of us can say with certainty what the outcome of this will be until the grand jury finishes its work and we have the independent counsel's report if even then.

I can say the preponderance of the evidence we have indicates that Karl Rove is not the villain in this episode.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 01:57 pm
Mensnewsdaily, the same outfit that brought you Talon News and Jeff Gannon. THere's a source that should be believed Laughing

But here's a point they get way wrong:

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... Apparently, Valerie Plame ceased to be a covert agent when her cover was blown years earlier. The CIA believed that Aldrich Ames (CIA agent/KGB spy/traitor) revealed her role, along with many other operatives, to the KGB before his arrest in 1994. Plame's former existence as a secret agent became little more than cocktail party chatter with which to thrill the uninitiated. Since her identity was not classified, not secret, and she had not been assigned to duty outside the US in the last five years, revealing her mundane desk job with the CIA was simply not a crime. Lots of people work for the CIA, after all.


You know very well that Plame had much more than a mundane desk job. Her front company (who she still worked for) was blown by this article, which had bad results for our intelligence agents who ALSO worked for the company or contacts in the field who did business with the company. Care to comment on this?

As for the fact that SOME people may have known Plame's identity, that isn't the same thing as throwing it out there for EVERYONE to see, is it? Of course not. Yet the Talking Points will march on...

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:00 pm
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I can say the preponderance of the evidence we have indicates that Karl Rove is not the villain in this episode.


Well, not quite. He certainly is involved and certainly spoke with reporters about the subject. It remains to be seen if enough fingers will point to him in the end.

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Again how secret was Valerie Plame's name when Joe Wilson used it in his Who's Who entry and also posted it on his website?


>smacks forehead<

I'm sure lots of people knew her name. Just not what she did for a LIVING for the US. Her NAME wasn't the secret, Fox, the fact that she was a CIA WMD agent was the secret. Sheesh. Are you being intentionally obtuse or what?

Cycloptichorn
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:00 pm
You don't think a Who's Who entry and a website is pretty much 'throwing it out there'?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:03 pm
No, I don't, becuase the 'who's who' didn't list her as a WMD agent for the CIA.

But I really hope you keep pushing this, as this is the most fun I've had in a long time, completely destroying your talking points and watching you desperately shift from one tack to another. Please, by all means, continue.

Cycloptichorn
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pngirouard
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:10 pm
Hi Cyclop!

I must say I am also enjoying this. Some comments are right out somewhat maybe tainted by abuse...

Drunk
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:12 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
No, I don't, becuase the 'who's who' didn't list her as a WMD agent for the CIA.

But I really hope you keep pushing this, as this is the most fun I've had in a long time, completely destroying your talking points and watching you desperately shift from one tack to another. Please, by all means, continue.

Cycloptichorn

Exactly. This sounds lot like what the Republicans are desperately trying to do in spinning themselves into a BS frenzy , but the facts just keep getting in their way.
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pngirouard
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:16 pm
Hi Dookkistic/mptwain

I remember you from Abuzz. Nice seeing you again.
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pngirouard
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:20 pm
Just a tought:


http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/w/d/rove_arrested.jpg

Very Happy
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:26 pm
so much spin and yet not one reason why anyone would make sure that valerie plame was introduced to the world at large, if not for the sole purpose of making a hit on joe wilson.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:30 pm
Of course it was to make a hit on Wilson.

This BS about 'warning before they printed false stories' isn't going to hang. According to this bunch the MSM prints false stories every single day. Do they call and Out classified agents EVERY DAY? In that case, what was special about this case?

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Matthew Cooper Testifies, Details to Come
Matthew Cooper




By E&P Staff

Published: July 13, 2005 3:15 PM ET

NEW YORK Time's magazine's Matt Cooper today testified to a grand jury that White House aide Karl Rove was a source for a story about a CIA operative that has investigators deciding whether any laws were broken by the leak of the agent's identity.

After more than two hours inside the building, Cooper told reporters he would give them details of his grand jury testimony -- in a future article for Time magazine. "I'm not going to scoop myself today," Cooper, a White House correspondent for the news weekly, said outside the U.S. District Court Wednesday afternoon, according to a report at the Fox News web site.

Fox reports:

"Cooper spoke after a two-and-a-half hour appearance before the grand jury investigating the leak of CIA officer Valerie Plame's identity. Last week, Cooper escaped a citation for contempt of court when he told the judge his source had waived confidentiality, freeing him to testify before the grand jury.

"'Today I testified and agreed to testify solely because of a waiver I received from my source,' Cooper said outside the courthouse. 'Once a journalist makes a commitment of confidentiality to a source, only the source can end that commitment.'

"Cooper said he hoped his testimony would speed up the grand jury's investigation, which would allow The New York Times' Judith Miller to be released from jail.

"He confirmed that his source on the leak was Deputy Chief of Staff Rove, one of President Bush's most trusted advisers and the man credited with Bush's four consecutive campaign victories.

"The waiver that freed Cooper to cooperate with the grand jury was signed by Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin. Cooper's attorney, Richard Sauber, was on hand Wednesday to pass out photocopies of the waiver to reporters."


http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000978699

Now, does this mean that Rove is guilty under the difficult-to-prove Outing laws? Not neccessarily. But Conspiracy and Perjury are much, much, much easier to prove; and Fitzgerald is no fool, muahahaha

Cycloptichorn
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hamburger
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:43 pm
who outed
...FOX NEWS...also reported on cooper's comments after leaving the courthouse. shouldn't take long now to hear which way it's going to go. fascinating ! hbg
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:45 pm
The Big Lie About Valerie Plame
One important thing to remember that the Bush administration keeps trying to obscure is that it was the CIA itself who requested the Attorney General to initiate an investigation of the leak of Plame's name. If the CIA not want to protect Plane's work and did not consider the actions a serious threat to Plame and US security, it would not have requested an investigation. The CIA clearly considered the leak of a protected agent a violation of the law. Ther Attorney General recused himself because of his conflict of interest and the investigation request was given to the special independent counsel.

BBB


The Big Lie About Valerie Plame
By Larry Johnson
From: TPMCafe Special Guests

The misinformation being spread in the media about the Plame affair is alarming and damaging to the longterm security interests of the United States. Republicans' talking points are trying to savage Joe Wilson and, by implication, his wife, Valerie Plame as liars. That is the truly big lie.

For starters, Valerie Plame was an undercover operations officer until outed in the press by Robert Novak. Novak's column was not an isolated attack. It was in fact part of a coordinated, orchestrated smear that we now know includes at least Karl Rove.

Valerie Plame was a classmate of mine from the day she started with the CIA. I entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985. All of my classmates were undercover--in other words, we told our family and friends that we were working for other overt U.S. Government agencies. We had official cover. That means we had a black passport--i.e., a diplomatic passport. If we were caught overseas engaged in espionage activity the black passport was a get out of jail free card.

A few of my classmates, and Valerie was one of these, became a non-official cover officer. That meant she agreed to operate overseas without the protection of a diplomatic passport. If caught in that status she would have been executed.

The lies by people like Victoria Toensing, Representative Peter King, and P. J. O'Rourke insist that Valerie was nothing, just a desk jockey. Yet, until Robert Novak betrayed her she was still undercover and the company that was her front was still a secret to the world. When Novak outed Valerie he also compromised her company and every individual overseas who had been in contact with that company and with her.

The Republicans now want to hide behind the legalism that "no laws were broken". I don't know if a man made law was broken but an ethical and moral code was breached. For the first time a group of partisan political operatives publically identified a CIA NOC. They have set a precendent that the next group of political hacks may feel free to violate.

They try to hide behind the specious claim that Joe Wilson "lied". Although Joe did not lie let's follow that reasoning to the logical conclusion. Let's use the same standard for the Bush Administration. Here are the facts. Bush's lies have resulted in the deaths of almost 1800 American soldiers and the mutilation of 12,000. Joe Wilson has not killed anyone. He tried to prevent the needless death of Americans and the loss of American prestige in the world.

But don't take my word for it, read the biased Senate intelligence committee report. Even though it was slanted to try to portray Joe in the worst possible light this fact emerges on page 52 of the report: According to the US Ambassador to Niger (who was commenting on Joe's visit in February 2002), "Ambassador Wilson reached the same conclusion that the Embassy has reached that it was highly unlikely that anything between Iraq and Niger was going on." Joe's findings were consistent with those of the Deputy Commander of the European Command, Major General Fulford.

The Republicans insist on the lie that Val got her husband the job. She did not. She was not a division director, instead she was the equivalent of an Army major. Yes it is true she recommended her husband to do the job that needed to be done but the decision to send Joe Wilson on this mission was made by her bosses.

At the end of the day, Joe Wilson was right. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It was the Bush Administration that pushed that lie and because of that lie Americans are dying. Shame on those who continue to slander Joe Wilson while giving Bush and his pack of liars a pass. That's the true outrage.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:51 pm
Hey, pngirouard, what's up? I remember you, too. Yep, those were the days on Abuzz before many started ruining that forum (plus, no moderators). Fortunately, this forum is MUCH more civilized AND it's moderated. I should know; they just lifted my second suspension on this forum.

Since then, I've had some practice in which to refine my "civility..."
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 02:55 pm
Debunking Rove's Spin
Don't you hate it when people attach "gate" to every scandal that pops up?---BBB

PLAMEGATE
Debunking Rove's Spin
The American Progress

In our continuing series of reports examining Karl Rove's involvement in leaking the name of an undercover CIA agent, we'll focus today on the spin coming from right-wing operatives trying to defend Rove's unethical behavior. The White House's strategy in defending him -- a strategy devised by "Rove loyalists outside of the White House," according to the Washington Post -- is to try to undermine opponents calling for Rove's dismissal, play down Rove's role and wait for President Bush to name a Supreme Court nominee to drown out the controversy. What is important to note is that while the White House officially refuses to answer any questions on the growing scandal, Rove himself is clearly pushing out spin from behind the scenes. Terry Moran, ABC's White House correspondent, noted at the press briefing yesterday that Fox News has been able to report that Rove's conversations with Matt Cooper lasted for two minutes and focused on welfare reform. "They're getting that information from here, from Karl Rove," said Moran. All this spin detracts from one central fact: Rove leaked classified information that disclosed a covert CIA agent's identity.

ROVE TALKING POINT -- NEVER LEAKED AGENT'S NAME: Even before a recently uncovered e-mail disclosed Rove's role in the leak, Rove has maintained, "I didn't know her name and didn't leak her name." Ken Mehlman, former political director at the White House under Rove, has reiterated, "He did not, according to what we learned this past weekend, reveal the name of anybody."

FACT -- ROVE IDENTIFIED THE AGENT AND KNEW THAT WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS WRONG: A number of factors weigh against Rove's assertion. First, Rove identified Valerie Plame as "Wilson's wife." Under section 421 of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act the disclosure of "any information identifying [a] covert agent" is illegal. Second, Rove's lawyer is undermining the distinction between naming and identifying Plame as too legalistic and a minor detail. Third, Rove insisted on speaking to Cooper only on "double super secret background." As Andrew Sullivan notes, "Why would Rove have insisted on such a super-tight confidentiality standard if he was not aware that he was divulging something he truly shouldn't divulge?" Fourth, as Joe Wilson himself has indicated, his wife goes by Mrs. Wilson, so it would have been clear who Rove was talking about (and Rove attended the same church as the Wilson family, indicating he may know more about Plame than he's letting on)

ROVE TALKING POINT -- ROVE WAS NOT AFFIRMATIVELY PUSHING THE PLAME STORY: In a National Review article posted online yesterday, Rove's lawyer Robert Luskin claims Cooper manipulated what Rove said to him "in a pretty ugly fashion to make it seem like people in the White House were affirmatively reaching out to reporters to try to get them to report negative information about Plame." Luskin added that the purpose of the call between Cooper and Rove was to discuss welfare reform.

FACT -- WHITE HOUSE ORCHESTRATED CAMPAIGN AGAINST WILSON: What Cooper may or may not have done is irrelevant to the central point that Rove leaked classified information. The White House did act in an organized way to push Plame's identity as a way to discredit Wilson. First, Robert Novak admitted: "I didn't dig it out [Plame's identity], it was given to me.... They [the White House] thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it." Second, Rove told Chris Matthews that Plame's identity was "fair game." Third, NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell noted in 2003 that she "heard in the White House that people were touting the Novak column and that that was the real story." Fourth, Time magazine reported the orchestrated campaign against Wilson in October 2003: "In the days after Wilson's essay appeared, government officials began to steer reporters away from Wilson's conclusions." Fifth, an administration official admitted the leak "was meant purely and simply for revenge." Sixth, it is irrelevant what the purpose of the call may have been. The crucial question is whether Rove intended to disclose Plame's identity.

ROVE TALKING POINT -- ATTACK JOE WILSON: Mehlman has asserted, "[Rove] tried to discourage a reporter from writing a story that was false." Rove attorney Luskin added, "What Karl was trying to do ... was to warn Time away from publishing things that were going to be established as false." A Wall Street Journal editorial said Rove "deserves a prize" for being a "whistleblower."

FACT -- BUSH ADMINISTRATION ADMITTED IT SHOULD NOT HAVE CITED YELLOWCAKE EVIDENCE: The accuracy of Wilson's claims have no bearing on the central point that Rove leaked classified information. Wilson was reporting that Iraq was not acquiring yellowcake from Niger. As the White House attempts to play up the idea that Rove was simply trying to correct a reporter's story, it should be noted that the White House later agreed with Wilson that Bush should not have said in his 2003 State of the Union: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." First, the CIA asked Bush not to cite that claim before the speech. Second, the White House admitted it should not have cited that intelligence. Former Press Secretary Ari Fleischer said, "This information should not have risen to the level of a presidential speech." Condoleezza Rice said, "it was information that was mistaken." CIA Director George Tenet said the famous sixteen words "should never have been included in the text written for the President."
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 03:05 pm
Second thoughts on leak case
Second thoughts on leak case
By Robert Kuttner | July 13, 2005

Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect. His column appears regularly in the Boston Globe.

LAST WEEK in this space, I implied that the special counsel in the Valerie Plame leak case, Patrick Fitzgerald, might be protecting the Bush administration. It made no sense, I argued, that New York Times reporter Judith Miller was going to jail for protecting a source, while columnist Robert Novak, who first published the leak, either had revealed his source to Fitzgerald and thus solved the case or should be under similar threats but wasn't. Ergo: Fitzgerald was going after the press rather than the White House.

Wrong on all counts.

In 20 years of writing columns for the Globe, I've had to print minor corrections, but this is the first story I really booted. I owe readers and prosecutor Fitzgerald an explanation and an apology.

Here's what we've learned:

First, Fitzgerald is playing it straight. Novak has apparently testified -- otherwise he'd be in jail with Miller. Fitzgerald has extensively investigated Bush officials. Karl Rove has likely testified, too.

I reasoned that Fitzgerald needn't subpoena other reporters because Novak could tell all. But after doing more reporting, I've learned that the reality is far more complicated.

Under the CIA nondisclosure law, an illegal disclosure has to be deliberate and knowing, and the CIA agent clandestine. Other published reports suggest that Fitzgerald is pursuing a possible case against Rove and other suspected leakers for perjury or obstruction of justice, which are easier to prove, especially if Rove was not entirely truthful in his testimony.

Fitzgerald would need others to corroborate the leaks Rove was peddling. Hence the effort to compel Miller and Matt Cooper of Time Magazine to testify.

The response of Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, to recent reports in Newsweek, which somehow got hold of reporter Cooper's subpoenaed memos fingering Rove, is highly instructive. Rove had previously insisted that he had never disclosed Valerie Plame's ''name." Now his lawyer admits that Rove, in trying to discredit former ambassador Joseph Wilson, told Cooper that Wilson's ''wife" was a CIA agent but didn't mention her by name.

So Rove is playing word games. What he said was literally true -- but a lie, since a reporter given this tip could easily identify Wilson's wife. Whether or not he used her name, Rove was deliberately outing Plame. If he played the same word games before the grand jury, he's in trouble.

The White House spinners also contend that Plame was not really a clandestine and protected CIA agent because she worked at CIA headquarters. This is also nonsense. Plame, a specialist on weapons of mass destruction, was under cover when she undertook sensitive missions. She was not identified as CIA. Blowing her cover harmed her career and put her at risk.

This all recalls two other famous cases where an administration fell afoul of a special prosecutor. Bill Clinton tried to persuade a grand jury and public opinion that oral sex wasn't sex. He nearly lost the presidency, not for his dumb affair with an intern but for lying. Richard Nixon was disgraced, not for the original Watergate break-in but for the coverup. George Bush, who doesn't know much about history, should take notice.

After a week's reporting and reflection, I also suggest a different view of press privilege and the public interest. In the Alice in Wonderland world of the Plame-Rove story, Judith Miller, who worked hand in glove with the Bush administration to publish bogus stories about Saddam Hussein's alleged nuclear program, is a hero -- for going to jail to protect, once again, her friends in the administration. And Time-Warner, which turned over Matt Cooper's notes (for the wrong reasons -- Time-Warner's corporate interests -- but that's another story) is the villain. Yet it may be Cooper's testimony that finally sinks Rove. So who's the hero and what's the public interest?

As Michael Kinsley has observed, not all leaks are created morally equal. It's one thing for reporters to protect a brave whistle-blower who has taken personal risks to serve the public interest. It is another thing for reporters to collude with the powerful to punish the whistle-blower, in this case Joseph Wilson, and his wife, an innocent bystander.

Is the public good served by helping Fitzgerald learn who at the White House broke the law? Or is it served by having reporters protect Karl Rove? We need a public interest test, not an absolute privilege.

The other journalistic moral of the story: Do your reporting before you write the column. I hope it's another 20 years before I have to write another such apology.
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pngirouard
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 03:08 pm
Here are a few points raised from today's Froomkin column in the WP. Excerpts:

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Won't Defend? Then Attack!
By Dan Froomkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Wednesday, July 13, 2005; 12:54 PM

How do you defend Karl Rove? The way he himself has so effectively defended President Bush over the years, of course. You attack.

The White House yesterday officially stayed mum regarding Rove's role in the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame, its only concession being a generic expression of confidence in all who serve the president.

And this morning , asked directly if he had spoken to Rove about the matter and whether he felt Rove's conduct was improper, Bush simply refused to say, citing the ongoing criminal investigation.

"I will be more than happy to comment on this matter once this investigation is complete," he said, joining in the White House stonewall that began on Monday.

But Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman yesterday began a pro-Rove media charge. His message, summed up by these talking points , is not as much a defense of Rove against the various charges leveled against him as it is an attack on the credibility of Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV -- Plame's husband, and the person who Rove was trying to discredit when he mentioned Plame in the first place.

Mehlman won't say whether he talked to Rove about his approach, but either way, his methodology is tried and true Rovian genius.

Not everyone in the Republican Party is playing along. An awful lot of senior members of Bush's party are sitting this one out for now.

And Rove and the White House face adversity on three fronts:

· There's a possible criminal charge looming.

· There's a credibility issue based on all the denials that Rove was involved in any way with the Plame case.

· And there's the context in which this took place: Rove, after all, was attacking a report by Wilson that cast doubt on the administration's case against Saddam Hussein's quest for weapons of mass destruction. The White House was at the time desperately -- and effectively -- waving the media away from any doubts about Bush's rationale for war. But Wilson was ultimately proven right on the issue of WMD, and the White House was ultimately proven wrong.

The pro-Rove attacks don't really engage on any of those three fronts -- but rather attempt to open a fourth. Will the public's focus shift so easily? It's an uphill battle.

Among the latest: Byron York of National Review Online's revealing interview with Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin.

Luskin has previously said that special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald had told him that Rove was not a "target" of the criminal investigation. All that would mean, however, is that Fitzgerald was at that point not ready to actually declare his intention to indict Rove.

But Luskin has now told that National Review that Fitzgerald identified Rove, among others, as a "subject."

In grand-jury talk a subject -- unlike an ordinary witness -- is someone who faces possible indictment.

And investigative reporter Murray Waas blogs today that his sources tell him that columnist Robert Novak -- the first person to publish Plame's identity -- has in fact spoken at length to prosecutors.
That would explain why Novak isn't in jail.

But, Waas reports, the prosecutors don't necessarily believe what Novak told them, which is why they want to talk to other reporters about what Novak's sources told them.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 03:11 pm
Finally, someone is asking the important question as to why Judith Miller is in jail. Could it be that she is more interested in protecting her own duplicity more than concern for protecting sources? ---BBB

What was Judith Miller Up To?

Was she simply a recipient of the leak of Valerie Plame's identity as a CIA agent--or did she carry that news to others herself? Speculation grows that the special prosecutor is looking at the possibility that unnamed journalists "started a chain of conversations," passing information about Plame to administration officials.

By William E. Jackson, Jr.
Editors and Publishers

(July 12, 2005) -- From Frank Rich in the New York Times to Michael Kinsley in the Los Angeles Times, opinions were expressed across a wide spectrum in the days following the decision by federal district court Judge Frank Hogan to sentence Judith Miller to jail and let Matt Cooper go free in special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation of officials who may have committed a crime in leaking the identity of CIA undercover agent Valerie Plame two years ago.

Bob Schieffer on "Face the Nation" even went so far as to compare Miller's sentence for refusing to reveal sources to a grand jury to Martin Luther King's civil disobedience.

In his column of July 10, grieving for his colleague Miller who "has been taken away in shackles for refusing to name the source for a story she never wrote," Rich weighed in with the melodramatic conclusion that "this is worse than Watergate." But Rich later found ground in reality when he wrote that the scandal began with the sending of American men and women to war in Iraq based on twisted intelligence. Unlike many of Miller's apologists, he recalled that "Judy Miller was one of two reporters responsible for a notoriously credulous front-page Times story" (with Michael Gordon in September 2002) that enabled the Bush Administration's propaganda campaign to hype the threat of Saddam's WMD.

This was just one of her error-ridden contributions to the cause of invasion. Demonstrating a singular lack of propriety, one of the most insensitive comments of the past week came from Miller herself when she told the judge after he sentenced her to jail: if U.S. troops could risk death in Iraq, "surely, I can face prison to defend a free press."

It is important to note that The Times' legal affairs reporter, Adam Liptak, has been thoroughly professional in day-to-day reporting on the case, despite the eminent pro-Miller roles of his publisher and executive editor. It would be far more difficult to follow the ins and outs of the case without his regular reports. However, it remains a mystery as to how Liptak can be certain that she conducted interviews and was contemplating writing about the controversy in July of 2003, possibly a key element in this case.

Prosecutor Fitzgerald has insisted: "This case is not about a whistle-blower. It's about a potential retaliation against a whistle-blower." Helping the government vindictively to leak -- to "declare war" (as Cooper put it) -- hardly counts as watching the government closely and aggressively. As reported by AP, when Times counsel Floyd Abrams was asked why prosecutors had sought Miller's testimony when she never wrote a story about Plame, he said: "We don't know, but most likely somebody testified to the grand jury that he or she had spoken to Judy."

So Miller was fingered by an administration official back in the summer of 2004, and then she was subpoenaed? Then, one theory goes, she covers for him or her by claiming she was working on a story, hoping to throw the cloak of "reporter's privilege" over the conversation. By not agreeing to testify, Miller -- along with that official -- might thereby have been involved in obstruction of justice. It would require her oral testimony to confirm what games the White House-level official was playing.

Of course, this is just a theory; no one yet knows what actually happened. But since the New York Times was originally subpoenaed, as were Time and The Washington Post, and that subpoena has been dropped, it could be read that Miller was not working on a story, or took no notes --or destroyed them. Otherwise the New York Times would be on the hook for them.

A novel theme emerging in some press coverage of the Plame case raises the possibility of unnamed journalists being participants in a potential crime, and not just witnesses. Carol Leonnig of The Washington Post wrote on July 6: "Sources close to the investigation say there is evidence in some instances that some reporters may have told government officials -- not the other way around --that Wilson was married to Plame, a CIA employee."

Richard Schmitt wrote in the Los Angeles Times of July 9: "It appears clear that one possibility pursued by Fitzgerald is whether a journalist started a chain of conversations about Plame between reporters and White House officials."

This idea was first raised by me in an E&P column of April 7, based on conversations with legal sources, in which I suggested, among other scenarios, that Miller basically was a "carrier," around Washington, of the rumor about Plame's real identity, but not a reporter actively covering a story. She was "both a source for, and a witness to, disclosure by sources of Plame's identity."

She may have just been helping to spin the neo-conservatives' gossip. Her "source" is incidental, as she wrote nothing. No evidence has been presented that she even contemplated writing a story. None of her colleagues at the newspaper that I have spoken to over the past two years have suggested that she was actively working on a story about Plame.

But talking to someone at a high level somehow got her on Fitzgerald's list. She may have both received the information on Plame from a high official, who was trying to smear Wilson, and spread it as a "carrier" to another one. Or maybe she already knew what Plame's job was, as her government beat was WMD.

If this scenario is close to the reality of what happened, her "cover" is likely to be blown if and when the special prosecutor releases the information from those crucial redacted eight pages of court documents that persuaded one judge after another to hold her in contempt in the first place. What's in those pages is obviously key to the whole Miller case.

The New York Times should answer some questions. For example, have they contacted Miller's source[s] and asked for an explicit waiver of confidentiality -- and been denied? If so, would that not appropriately put the pressure back on the White House, where it belongs? Does the Times want her sources to come forward?

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William E. Jackson, Jr. ([email protected]) is a former arms control official and legislative aide in Congress. He has written about the Plame case for E&P for almost two years.
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