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Rove was the source of the Plame leak... so it appears

 
 
au1929
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:02 pm
D'artagnan
The threat of terrorism and 9/11 is revived and renewed every time an act of terror occurs around the world. For some reason a majority of Americans believe that Bush is more capable of protecting the US against terror than a Democrat would be. Why I do not understand, considering that his attack upon Iraq has strengthened and increased the forces of terror immeasurably
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:03 pm
Rove/ plame is finally on Yahoo homepage! Third item.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:04 pm
sozobe wrote:
Rove/ plame is finally on Yahoo homepage! Third item.


Whew! Finally.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:06 pm
<squints at Tico>

Surprised it took so long, happy to see it there.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:08 pm
soz

I typed in "Rove" on google news two hours ago...everybody and their dog is carrying today's briefing dust up.

But how odd that Time/Cooper have switched lawyers to Ted Olson, of all people. I simply cannot imagine Olson moving in any direction which would bring or facilitate ill favor upon this administration.
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Chrissee
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:11 pm
D'artagnan wrote:
For those of us old enough to recall the Nixon era, things are starting to seem eerily familiar: An arrogant administration, an unpopular war, and a slowly building series of questions from the press that can't be brushed aside.

Nixon, too, looked invincible for a while...


Yeah, I never thought they would really get Nixon, this situation looks eerily similar. This thing is not going to go away.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:13 pm
rayban1 wrote:
Blatham.......you really know how to bring the Rove haters out of the woodwork.........go on and have a really good "Chortle"..... maybe some of you will choke on your coffee.........OH......I AM sorry if I don't seem to show any sympathy for a "LIB".

Don't be too disapointed if Bob Woodward and his ilk have difficulty in really connecting Rove with the leak...........in other words don't count your jail sentences before they materialize
Laughing

Note......I may be forced to burn this post at some future date. Evil or Very Mad


where did rayban go?
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:27 pm
sozobe wrote:
parados wrote:
It's sounding like a well planned conspiracy at this point.

Rove reveals Wilson's wife works at the CIA and planned the trip but doesn't name her or say what she does.

Libby or someone else reveals that an undercover CIA agent, not named, planned the trip

and then a third person names Plame as Wilson's wife


They don't even need a third person. It doesn't seem like it would be difficult for any random person -- the journalists themselves, for example -- to figure out who Wilson's wife is.

As in, if it's been established that a) whomever planned the trip is a CIA operative and b) Wilson's wife planned the trip, c) follows -- Wilson's wife is a CIA operative. Just a matter of finding out who he's married to. Not that hard.

So, there we have the two senior administration officials. Makes sense to me. Not saying it happened, saying it makes sense. We'll see.


Andrea Mitchell was asked on MSNBC if people generally knew that Valerie Plame was an operative for the CIA. She answered, a bit uncomfortably, that yes, in general, most people knew that.

If push came to shove, I think all a defense attorney would have to do is round up the bunches of people who knew where and for whom she worked.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:31 pm
parados wrote:
It seems the translation from todays press conference is...

We will comment on it as long as we can deny it. If we can't deny it and sound believable then we won't comment.


It's entirely possible that Fitzgerald himself has asked that comments be withheld until the investigation is complete.

I also think it's pretty traditional for ongoing investigations.

No surprise there. I think Scott McClellan did an admirable job Smile
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:40 pm
Andrea Mitchell ....and all the liberal reporters who schmooze with Democrat politicians likely knew Plame's job.

But, there's no liberal bias.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:41 pm
ehBeth wrote:
where did rayban go?


Mebbe a clue HERE
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:42 pm
<< Laughing at the image of half of Washington, D.C. parading through the courtroom to testify they knew where Plame worked LOL!
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:43 pm
Knowing a name, and reporting a name are usually considered to be different things.

But that's one of the things for the grand jury to sort out in this case.


<edit to remove evidence of "english not as a first language">
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 05:43 pm
I'll have to remember to thank Dys next time we cross paths.

Cycloptichorn
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Chrissee
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 06:13 pm
JustWonders wrote:
<< Laughing at the image of half of Washington, D.C. parading through the courtroom to testify they knew where Plame worked LOL!


Laughing at the image of someone who would think a prosecutor would be so stupid to havea Grand Jury spend two years investigating something that is not even a POTENTIAL crime LOL
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 06:14 pm
Chrissee wrote:
Laughing at the image of someone who would think a prosecutor would be so stupid to have Grand Jury investigate something that is not even a POTENTIAL crime LOL


A potential crime does not a crime make.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 06:15 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Mebbe a clue HERE


What a revoltin' development . . . but maybe he'll be as good as his word, and not return . . .
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 06:16 pm
Rove didn't report it.

LOL!!! Dems lose AGAIN.

I'm looking forward to testimony by all the reporters and Democrats who are such good buddies.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 06:17 pm
How about a journey down the memoryhole?:

Quote:
Q All right. Let me just follow up. You said this morning, "The President knows" that Karl Rove wasn't involved. How does he know that?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I've made it very clear that it was a ridiculous suggestion in the first place. I saw some comments this morning from the person who made that suggestion, backing away from that. And I said it is simply not true. So, I mean, it's public knowledge. I've said that it's not true. And I have spoken with Karl Rove --. . . I'm not going to get into conversations that the President has with advisors or staff or anything of that nature; that's not my practice.

Q . . . I'm not asking what you said, I'm asking if the President has a factual basis for saying -- for your statement that he knows Karl Rove --

MR. McCLELLAN: He's aware of what I've said, that there is simply no truth to that suggestion. And I have spoken with Karl about it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/09/20030929-7.html


What did Rove say to the President? Did he lie to him? Better yet, did he tell him the truth? Does the President know Rove lied? Did he always know?
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Chrissee
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 06:20 pm
JustWonders wrote:


Andrea Mitchell was asked on MSNBC if people generally knew that Valerie Plame was an operative for the CIA. She answered, a bit uncomfortably, that yes, in general, most people knew that.



Link?
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