Egyptian Christian held in mental hospital

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

False religion is an oxymoron.
True religion is an oxymoron.

Please, remind us of what the Christian reaction should have been to their enemies striking them? Or was Christ just joshing?

Joe(Here is the other cheek)Nation

"ACLU opposes the use of mental incompetency proceedings, temporary conservatorship, or denial of government protection as a method of depriving people of the free exercise of religion, at least with respect to people who have reached the age of majority. Mode of religious proselytizing or persuasion for a continued adherence that do not employ physical coercion or threat of same are protected by the free exercise of religion clause of the First Amendment against action of state laws or by state officials. The claim of free exercise may not be overcome by the contention that 'brainwashing' or 'mind control' has been used, in the absence of evidence that the above standards have been violated."

Joe Nation wrote:

False religion is an oxymoron.
True religion is an oxymoron.

Please, remind us of what the Christian reaction should have been to their enemies striking them? Or was Christ just joshing?

Joe(Here is the other cheek)Nation

He wasn't joking, but there were certain kinds of assumptions built into the injunction, most notably the Pax Romana, and the assumption that the person on the other side of the cheek-turning action was capable of learning something from it.

Now, when a Mongol army division approaches with the intention of levelling your city to the last stone and impaling all inhabitants including YOU, nobody including Christ is going to tell you to turn the other cheek. That's idiotic.

apparently Gunga is the vicar of Christ. Who knew?

Self defense is the first law of nature. The "Thou shalt not kill" thing in the ten commandments is a simple mistranslation. It should read "Thou shalt do no murder."

What? WHAT?? WHAT???

That the omniscient, omnipotent and all knowing God that you have told us so many times you devoutly worship allowed, while using holy men as his very writing implement, working through them, allowed a misinterpretation of his holy word in the Bible.?
Say it ain't so buddy, say it ain't so.

Likewise, you don't find anything in the new testament about Christ accusing Saul and David of being a$$holes for waging war against the Amalekites. Amalekites were another collection of the sort of a$$holes you don't turn the other cheek towards.

People who would throw somebody into a psych lockup and torture him for wanting to be a Christian are basically Amelikites.

He wasn't joking, but there were certain kinds of assumptions built into the injunction, most notably the Pax Romana, and the assumption that the person on the other side of the cheek-turning action was capable of learning something from it.

Now, when a Mongol army division approaches with the intention of levelling your city to the last stone and impaling all inhabitants including YOU, nobody including Christ is going to tell you to turn the other cheek. That's idiotic.

Self defense is the first law of nature. The "Thou shalt not kill" thing in the ten commandments is a simple mistranslation. It should read "Thou shalt do no murder."

Likewise, you don't find anything in the new testament about Christ accusing Saul and David of being a$$holes for waging war against the Amalekites.

People who would throw somebody into a psych lockup and torture him for wanting to be a Christian are basically Amelikites.

Then you must be a huge supporter of the ACLU, gungasnake, since they are the one's who really fought against this type of religious "deprogramming" here in America.

Now, when a Mongol army division approaches with the intention of levelling your city to the last stone and impaling all inhabitants including YOU, nobody including Christ is going to tell you to turn the other cheek. That's idiotic.

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Now, when a Mongol army division approaches with the intention of levelling your city to the last stone and impaling all inhabitants including YOU, nobody including Christ is going to tell you to turn the other cheek. That's idiotic.

Oh, you of little faith, that's exactly what Christ said to do.

JDG 6:3 And so it was, when Israel had sown, that the Midianites came up, and the Amalekites, and the children of the east, even they came up against them;

JDG 6:4 And they encamped against them, and destroyed the increase of the earth, till thou come unto Gaza, and left no sustenance for Israel, neither sheep, nor ox, nor ass.

JDG 6:5 For they came up with their cattle and their tents, and they came as grasshoppers for multitude; for both they and their camels were without number: and they entered into the land to destroy it.

SA1 14:48 And he gathered an host, and smote the Amalekites, and delivered Israel out of the hands of them that spoiled them.

SA1 15:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.


SA1 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

SA1 15:4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

SA1 15:5 And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.

SA1 15:6 And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.

SA1 15:7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur,
that is over against Egypt.

SA1 15:8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.

SA1 15:9 But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.

SA1 15:10 Then came the word of the LORD unto Samuel, saying,

SA1 15:11 It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever
shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom
of heaven.

Sounds like the Middle Eastern moslems want their religion respected, but don't show respect to other religions.

Brandon9000 wrote:

Sounds like the Middle Eastern moslems want their religion respected, but don't show respect to other religions.

like these guys?

http://www.thedigitalcourier.com/articles/2005/05/24/news/news01.txt