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"Reverse Racism"..?

 
 
Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 06:34 pm
Is reverse racism taking over the youth?

Every day, I hear "Oh! It's because I'm black, isn't it?" Some are joking, some aren't. When I get the response, "are you racist?" because I don't let a girl who doesn't deserve to pass the class unless she does the work herself cheat off my paper, I can only shake my head in disbelief.

I walk around with the following pins on my purse:

http://www.positive-youthstore.com/catalog/pins/cross_swaspin.jpghttp://www.positive-youthstore.com/catalog/pins/unitepin.jpghttp://www.positive-youthstore.com/catalog/pins/positive_youthpin.jpg

I am a very proud advocate for equal rights and racial justice. I believe in civil liberties. I have grown up with a father who idolized the KKK and a family who's truth-in-jest humor suggests something far more sinister than how "there were three mexicans crossing the border, then one says..."

I hate racism. I despise it. I loath it. All my life, I have grown up around blacks, mexicans, asians. I love them, I love diversity (there was actually a time in my life when I was around 12 where I was convinced I was black. :wink: ). That is why it makes me sick that I can not make a comment (one I would say to a white, black, or purple person) without getting a rebuttal so sharp it slices right through me.

It's split nearly 50/50 in my school. 50% black kids, 50% white kids. But there is a tension among our halls that grows and grows with each day. Rarely have I witnessed a verbal hate-crime towards a black person. I have, however, witnessed many more against whites. But somehow it is acceptable, because if we refuse this "compensation" to African-Americans we are racist pigs who are trying to bring 'em down.

Kill Whitey! Oh yeah, it's common today. I am all for bringing down racists - but when I think of racists, I no longer think of redneck white trash with the swastika hanging off the back of their trailer. I have come to see racism in the faces of the black students that I walk with in the halls. I see it when I refuse to do something for someone and am accused of being racist, I see it when someone doesn't get what they want and blame it on their skin color.

Since when has the suffering of one's ancestors made for a good excuse for modern-day naivety?

I do realize that white men put Africans into the position of slavery. But I also know that we got them out.

I am tired of this arrogance, this egotistical rule that allows black students at my school to degrade me and the essence of life - having ups and downs and sometimes being handed a pile of **** - merely because their ancestors and parents (and I admit, some of them today) experienced racism and prejudice.

I feel as if the civil battle, one that I fight for right next to the black man, is being pushed backwards - not only by the skinheads and the white supremacists, but the hip-hoppers and the gangsters who feel the need to differentiate themselves to the point that we can't possibly get in. And when we do attempt to...we are shunned. If I were to go up to a black student and say to them, "listen to me...you and I? We're are equal. I am the same as you, you the same as me. I want to apologize for the horrors my ancestors put your ancestors through, and I want to build a friendship upon our differences and history," do you know what their reaction would be? Most likely, they would burst out in laughter and make a racially-inclined joke. I can only assume based on the comments I have previously over-heard.

I guess my main point of this post is to ask why this is such a silent, hidden problem?

It feels as if we (we = anyone, including black people, who are against this digressive mindset, not only white people) are not allowed to say something to the effect of:

The majority of black people I know use their race to their advantage and, while I know racism is alive and kicking and I see that many are still victims of this hatred, I am beginning to see an additional sect of racial prejudice - reverse racism. I am not allowed to say the same things to a black person that I would to a white person, because they would be offended. I am not welcomed into their culture because they push themselves so far away from me and my skin color, that it is impossible to become equal. I am not able to insult someone's intelligence based on the standard of humanity without being accused of believing in something I despise: RACISM.

I know others feel the same...it's a daily topic among my friends and myself. There are black people who feel this way, there are white people, there is every color under the sun. Yet no one has the gull to speak up, because they are afraid of the reaction.

I feel as if I am trapped. Ignorance erks me, no matter who or what it spawns from. I ask myself every day, why is this allowed to continue? Why does no one speak up? And most of all, why do they act oblivious to what they're doing to their progression? Is it just me? AM I racist? AM I biased? Or are the hundreds of students who feel frightened, shunned, and helpless, merely because they can not welcome an African-American into their world without being considered crazy, really onto something...
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boomerang
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 06:57 pm
Do I recall that you are still in high school, Sanctuary?

If so, let me suggest this:

You are at a time in your life where you are discovering who you are. "AM I racist?" you ask.

By the same token, your classmates are involved in this same struggle to identify themselves. It's a bit harder for kids who aren't white.

Your attempts to edit yourself and the response you receive show that not only you but your classmates too, have not completely settled into your selfs.

Life will smooth out and with it the whole concept of race.

You're asking the right questions.

I'm proud of you for that.
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onyxelle
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 07:20 pm
Sanctuary...this might sound like excuse making..but I promise you it's not...or at least that's not my intent

I appreciate your thoughts and your feelings, and you're certainly right in that many black people, not just the students in your school, tend to blame their problems on 'the man'. Sadly it's all around. I'd venture out on a limb here and say that most people that use that excuse use it because that's what they were taught. Most probably their parents aren't on the top of the 'middle class' section of society, and they're probably getting the old "whitey did me wrong" at home.

I know...sometimes I got the same thing.

Not everyone is as strong, as independant or as open a mind as you are. For those that are, they'll - we hope - grow to learn that a lot of problems can be solved just through asserting themselves toward positive things and in more positive manners. Through the simplicity of taking responsibility for things that happen WITHIN their control.

Their kids still, just like you are (as Boomerang has said). do not discount their remarks and behaviors because they've not yet reached the level of understanding that you have. They've still a bit more time to grown and realize that we really can all get along and that our skin doesn't always have to be a factor.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 07:41 pm
People will always be tribal. It's inbred. Sometimes the line between tribal and racist becomes blurred. That's because of ignorance. Not stupidity, ignorance. We're an ignorant society.

I have dj'd racially mixed marriages. Without fail the blacks tend to migrate to blacks, the whites to whites. I have also had parties at my house and observed the same dynamic. I know for a fact that some of my friends have racist feelings, both my white and my black friends, but I do not believe that to be the case with the majority of them no matter who they seem most comfortable with.

Until we can accept the fact that people in many ways ARE different and embrace that difference as something that makes life interesting and enjoy our differences while recognizing that we are the same under the skin, we'll always have a problem.

Personally I think everyone needs to relax on this matter. I have lots of reasons to like or dislike certain people, and none of them are racially based unless you count ass hole as a race.
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onyxelle
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 08:06 pm
uhm..blue.....

gimme my soapbox back please...



*smile*
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 08:08 pm
I see it as a feature of the dialectical process of change - ie when a great wrong is fought against it requires enormous passion and conviction and a somewhat monomaniacal focus.

This can lead, I think, to a kind of over-balancing to the other side.

Also, when we struggle for and achieve revolutionary change (and I am NOT suggesting that racism in the US, for instance, is overcome, any more than sexism is, but that there HAS been change in a short period of time that has been revolutionary) there is a tendency for the new regime, as it were, to mirror the faults of the old - eg intolerance, prejudice etc.

I think this works for the civil rights movement, and the feminist movement, to some extent.

I suspect that, as with all dialectical processes, it oscillates back and forth for a period of time, before finding a new equilibrium - or, more correctly, a slower oscillation.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 08:19 pm
Some incredibly (and wonderfully) thoughtful responses here. I really can't add anything to what Boomer, Onyxelle, the Bear and dlowan have already said. I am, however, moved by the depth of feeling and understanding that my friends exhibit. You have fine friends, Sanctuary. And you are a fine person yourself. Keep up the good work.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 08:21 pm
onyxelle wrote:
uhm..blue.....

gimme my soapbox back please...



*smile*


That's my special "Turn the Tide" Soap...makes you brighter....but not whiter. :wink:
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Sanctuary
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 08:26 pm
I agree with you all, and I appreciate your open mindedness on the matter...

I guess my main misunderstanding is why some people claim to be a victim of racism, yet they throw the same prejudices towards me and others of different skin color. Like the term says, reverse racism.

Maybe I have not seen the broader side of the spectrum because the people I hang out with are very open-minded and do not pay attention to skin color so much as they do inellect. But at the same time, I've gained these opinions from observing strangers and aquaintences, not necessarily the group of friends I am most usually around.

I don't see the reason for hatred on anyone's part. I think that when certain black people hide under the persecution of their race as an excuse to treat every white person as if we're going to accuse them of rape if they shake our hands, or as if we think they're going to steal our purse, it holds back the progression of acceptance and equality just as much as when certain white people treat every black person as if they are on welfare and have 9 children.

I just wish Martin Luther King's words would have lived on longer, prevailed stronger and made a much stronger impact, while I wish Malcolm X's words would have faded into silence. I think Mal. X provided a lot of hatred and envy towards the white race, while MLK provided an ideal for peace. He thought that moving forward meant acceptance and kindness, not violence and hatred as Mal. X taught. I just wish there were less tensions. Perhaps one day when I'm older... perhaps?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 09:48 pm
Yeah - it sucks - but it is pretty minor compared with what spawned it, I think.

I hope humans get beyond it all one day.
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onyxelle
 
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Reply Sun 8 May, 2005 06:50 am
blueveinedthrobber wrote:

That's my special "Turn the Tide" Soap...makes you brighter....but not whiter. :wink:


that's a relief for me, lol my family might no longer recognize me lol
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Mathos
 
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Reply Sun 8 May, 2005 03:15 pm
I don't really know if it will ever disappear, if we were all the same colour, the kids with buck teeth or red hair would get the flack.

Heaven help the aliens when they make contact.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 8 May, 2005 07:09 pm
Mathos wrote:
I don't really know if it will ever disappear, if we were all the same colour, the kids with buck teeth or red hair would get the flack.



You're too right, Mathos. As it is, now it's about skin pigmentation only because that's the most visible difference between people. The majority tends to distrust and dislike minorities which are, somehow, "different."
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Discreet
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 08:36 am
A good example of reverse racism is the attacks being made right now against govenor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Arnold asked for the backup of the fed's to ensure security on the state border line to Mexico, also complimenting the Minute Men for helping with the problem. Mexican American Political Association, Nativo Lopez, to call the governor's remarks, quote, "nothing short of base racism," unquote.

The L.A. times said this "he has found a new group to rail against... enemy numero uno is now illegal immigrants. "
So by Arnold protecting the boarder and preventing the scores of illegal immigrants that cross the border, which by the way costs the state of california $10 billion a year, automatically makes him racist.

I think this is rediculous but maybe because the amount of illegal immigrants now living in california is so high they can sympathize with the incoming immigrants. I don't think it is a matter of racism securing a countries borders, but then again i might be wrong and racist.

When minorties don't like a certain policy they can use the race card to get sympathy. Its not always a bad thing though blacks used it to get civil rights and now although not a race homosexuals are using it to get enough sympathy so that they can be commonly accepted.
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Sanctuary
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 10:03 am
Disc,

I agree completely! I have that very article you're referring to printed and posted on my wall. I found it hilarious for anyone to charge him for racism when he himself is an immigrant.

The excuses some people make up for mere rationality it outstanding. I realize that it is not near as horrible as what began the supremicy in this country, but instead I believe it to be a completely different motive and type of racism all together.
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Mathos
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 02:15 pm
The need to possess caused us to enforce borders thereby creating differences amongst ourselves. Skin pigmentation variances, evolutions sensible approach to protection. This is mine, its not yours! Again possession, you can go here but you can't go there. Control!

The day will eventually come when we all use a better developed planet en masse. (We have a long way to go) Removing religion from the curriculum and a logical desire with strong intent to work towards general harmony should automatically follow. At this moment in time, due to the terrorist threat ? we are creating more barriers and ill feeling thereby resulting in additional power for the architects of separation and destruction (they are all seekers of power). We categorise other human beings as we see fit, or as the media develops our train of thought. Self opinion is virtually outlawed. If we could get round to working together we would indeed have a very special planet to be extremely proud of. Goodness knows what the boffins would be developing for the benefit of mankind with the additional funding and increased laboratories available for research.
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booman2
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 06:15 pm
Sanctuary,
....When I saw the title of this thread I was expecting a topic actually on reverse racism, not a topic on the lazy, and opourtunistic idiots that play "the race card" What I call reverse racism is when my black brothers belittle and attack others because of the color of their skin. I can be in a chinese restaurant and feel embarrased by young blacks that ridicule the staff because they talk different. There far too many instances of this, however, I'm glad to see these people who act like people they hate, are in the minority.
....Here or a couple of examples of things that make me proud. I have noticed that white men and women, can walk the streets of Harlem at all times of night. I couldn't do that in predominatly whiite neighborhoods.....
...I recently purchase a bunch of "Def' Jam" comedy tapes. In all, or almost all, of the shows there is usually a single or small group of whites. In EVERY instance the host comedian does a little light teasing and makes them feel welcome.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 06:32 pm
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a blithering idiot.

I say that because of his shallow policy, his pandering demagogery and idiotic showboating on sensitive political issues in a transparent attempt to use wedge issue to get votes.

As Dr. King dreamed, we should "judge [others] not based on the color of their skin, but the content of their character."

I don't think you can count my disdane for Schwarzenegger and his ilk as racism (reverse or otherwise). I would dispise him whatever race, color or nationality he happened to be.

Moron is not a race.
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 06:53 pm
I've taught in quite a few schools with largish Muslim student populations. At first it used to bother me when a student (usually a naughty boy caught in the act of doing something he shouldn't have been doing. Laughing ) would say something like: "You're picking on me because I'm a Muslim." Being what I believed to be a squeaky clean "small l" liberal I felt quite confused, offended even, by such remarks. Or I was at first. After a while it became clear that this sort of comment was just a standard power play tactic with a number of the students. They knew out vulnerable spots & targeted them very well! Very Happy
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booman2
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 07:10 pm
You said essentialy the same thing I said in such a gentle way. Smile
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