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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 12:14 pm
By most accounts humour seems to be a characteristic particular to human beings.
A very curious thing if we carefully consider the full implications of this distinction.
It might be a bit presumptuous of me to assume things about our cousins in the animal kingdom but there does appear to be a correlative relationship between the sense of humour and the sense of self or the perception of the absurd and the intellectual quality of the mind.
It is indubitable that many ?'higher' life forms possess the propensity to play and to feel pleasure and perhaps even glee in rough-housing or in taunting their fellows, but do they have any sense of irony or can they find pleasure in laughing at the absurd or comical?
Do they have the ability to separate self from reason and see themselves with a humorous eye?
Perhaps a good place to begin answering this question is in trying to assess what exactly can be called comical and what in particular causes the explosion of laughter.
Fischer said on the matter:
"Our entire psychic world, the intellectual realm of our thoughts and conceptions, does not reveal itself to us on superficial consideration. It cannot be visualized directly either figuratively or intuitively, moreover it contains inhibitions, weak points, disfigurements, and an abundance of ludicrous and comical contrasts. In order to bring it out and to make it accessible to aesthetic examination, a force is necessary which is capable not only of reflecting upon these conceptions and elucidating them - namely, a force capable of clarifying thought. This force is nothing but judgment. The judgment which produces the comic contrast is wit. In caricature, wit has played its part unnoticed, but only in judgment does it attain its own individual form and the free domain of its evolution"
Lipps said:
"What we accept one moment as senseful, we later perceive as perfect nonsense. Thereby arises, in this case, the operation of the comic element."
And went on
"A saying appears witty when we ascribe to it a meaning through psychological necessity and, while doing so, retract it. It may thus have many meanings. We lend a meaning to an expression, knowing that logically it does not belong to it. We find in it a truth, however, which later we fail to find because it is foreign to our laws of experience or usual modes of thinking. We endow it with a logical or practical inference which transcends its true content, only to contradict this inference as soon as we finally grasp the nature of the expression itself. The psychological process evoked in us by the witty expression which gives rise to the sense of the comic, depends in every case on the immediate transition from the borrowed feeling of truth and conviction to the impression or consciousness of relative nullity."
And finally Freud said:
"We have heard that the release of painful emotions is the strongest hindrance to the comic effect. Just as aimless motion causes harm, stupidity mischief, and disappointment pain;-the possibility of a comic effect ends, at least for him who cannot defend himself against such pain, who is himself affected by it or must participate in it, whereas he who is unconcerned shows by his behaviour that the situation of the case in question contains everything necessary to produce a comic effect. Human is thus a means to gain pleasure despite, the painful affects which disturb it; it acts as a substitute for this affective development, and takes its place."
For me the comical is linked with the appreciation of the absurd and can be summed up as such:
When the self preserving structures of the internal is unexpectedly exposed to an external discordance, the sudden difference of psychic pressures can result in a release of stress energy through tears or laughter.
The process of ordering consists in the placing of barriers or limits between the internal and the external or, to be more precise, between what is under the direct influence of the Will and what requires an intervening tool.
Logic, morality, harmony are all damming mechanisms against chaos.
They enable the creation of an internal artificial safety zone, within which some form of order and harmony can take place.
We then project this internal sense of order, to whatever degree we feel it, upon the world at large and assume that it is there.
The absurd manifests itself when the psychic dam is surprised into developing fissures through which psychic energy is released to alleviate the pressures, in the form of physical energy.
Tragedy and comedy are inexorably linked.
Life is by its nature tragic, in that it is a stream of desiring, felt as need and suffering, ending in an unavoidable conclusion.
The comic becomes apparent when the unforeseeably tragic reveals itself at a distance.
It is when the tragic, that has been ordered and planned for, finds a way of surprising us and so results in an uncontrolled release of anxiety.
Much of humour is rooted in language and in word play.
Here the disjunction between our abstraction of reality and its actuality becomes the most obvious and the disparity between our conceptual understanding and the actual world becomes pronounced.
Perhaps, it is a fitting by-product of control and the attempt to encase reality within the boundaries of awareness, that absurdity makes itself noticed by reminding us that our logical constructs are tenuous, at best.
It is the mind being humbled by contradiction and chance and a way of venting oppressed energies back into the chaotic void.
Just like the earth consists of an outer crust covering a churning interior, compressed into a heated magma, so do our abstractions encase and compress a subconscious controlled energy making it pliable and liquid.
When we are exposed to the reality that out understanding and our structured awareness of the universe does not correspond precisely to what is actually there, the tragic springs froth in our subconscious.
When the tragic has the added characteristic of being removed from our immediate concerns or is also completely opposite from what we have gotten used to as commonplace, then it becomes comical and absurd.
Great topic Satyr, but I dont know where to start.
Re: Humour
Satyr
There is also Bergson perspective.
He starts to say that we only find comic in human situations. We only find comic an animal when we see in it human characteristics.
Second, comic excludes compassion. We all laugh when a fat guy, well dressed, falls in the ground. But if it is a women, an old man, we don't laugh, because we feel compassion. Who laughs when a blind man falls? We laugh specially when someone is adjusted to a social image of power or dignity, and suddenly falls in the mud. It is as if he took the mask, and only remain a poor fellow, confused.
And there is the social censure. If a man walks imitating the poses of an woman, people laugh as a censure to that man that is different.
We laugh at the different, as a punishment.
See, as an example, the comic movies: what makes me laugh of Stan and Laurel is not their incapacity to deal with reality. It is the fact that they try to adjust to the image of normal citizens - the "dignity" of Stan!- but the results are catastrophical.
Humor as censure, and the fall of the masks. I believe this are the most common forms of our human comic.
My dog (part Border Collie) smiles when I pick
up her lead to take her for a walk. She also appears to experience great glee when she manages to steal a dog biscuit from my other dog. She then lies down and chews the biscuit happily with one eye on her misfortunate rival. Would you say this exchange is in anyway humourous to her?
agrote wrote:shepaints wrote:My dog (part Border Collie) smiles when I pick
up her lead to take her for a walk. She also appears to experience great glee when she manages to steal a dog biscuit from my other dog. She then lies down and chews the biscuit happily with one eye on her misfortunate rival. Would you say this exchange is in anyway humourous to her?
Can dogs smile?
I believe they can - but then I wonder if we know that only because evolutionarily it has paid off for them to have the muscles to smile. I wonder if other animals can 'smile' and 'laugh' they just do not have the outer manifestation of it that we can recognize.
I think humans are the only ones who can laugh like humans. I think it is a matter of attempting to ascribe human attributes to animals. Sort of a negative anthropomorphism.
TF
just thinking
It's more complicated than possessing the mechanics to smile or laugh.
Laughter is a release of nervous tension; nervous tension that comes from becoming aware of a disjunction between perceived reality and abstracted memorized reality.
Through experience stored in memory, I come up with mental models of how things are or how they work. When an occurrence surprises us by contradicting this stored memory, that has created rules of logic and our sense of reality then we feel vulnerable or suddenly exposed to the unknown.
If this feeling is not immediately threatening or doesn't require an immediate reaction or when it exists in abstraction such as linguistic disjunction or ideological disjunction, then we feel it as a sudden explosion of hilarity.
I believe the key here is the awareness of the absurd.
The more awareness is possible, the more possibility for absurdity exists.
That is why humour is tied in with intelligence and only higher beings can be said to possess the sense of humour.
Satyr.....It is impossible to be fully aware
of how a dog, or even another person thinks.
How then, can we say with any degree of certitude,
that another species has no sense of humour?
Like anything else, absolute certainty is impossible.
We observe and create hypothesis and then models or strategies based on this hypothesis.
All opinions are generalizations and models based on limited information.
All abstraction is a simplification which enables memory and creates the possibility for experience.
I have noticed a single robin outside my house this week which has been throwing itself against the window glass repeatedly. Is it enarmoured of its own reflection? Is it looking for a friend? Is it aware of how absurd its behaviour is but continues nevertheless?
I dunno.
Hmmm .......... I wonder if he's related to the dove at the right here that keeps trying to fly outta' the box.
I have now cut out paper hawks and stuck them on
several windows. They haven't worked at all as a deterrent! The robin keeps throwing itself against the glass. Maybe it is trying to nest?
Could it be looking for the dove?!!
Think back shepaints..... perhaps you two have met before, and and the persistent robin is trying to renew an old friendship. ...think...think.
It is like living in a remake of Alfred Hitchcock's
"The Bird"......
Ouch!...That was quite a budget cut.
Yes indeed Booman. Central casting couldn't afford a crowe, so they settled for a robin instead! Williams is his name, I think!
I think I understand what you are saying Satyr, and I think I mostly agree.
I've noticed that the more intelligent people are, the more they have the capacity to find "humor" in situations that lesser intellects find offensive.
This suggests a greater understanding of the intelligent persons own mind and of the "boundary bursting" being less traumatic for them as a result?