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A nonwhite Pope

 
 
turtlette
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 02:46 pm
:-)
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 02:48 pm
For the whites Jesus was white, For Brown people Jesus was brown, for blacks he was black and for some he did not exist at all.

I guess he was whatever you preceive him to be.
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 02:12 am
turtlete-Im 100% white but Im not albino.

au1929-For th people who are fans of The last Temptation of Christ he was American!
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Eorl
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 05:02 am
I just hope they don't pick another freakin' catholic....Hellooo! Give someone else a turn already!
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turtlette
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 06:10 am
Eorl wrote:
I just hope they pick another freakin' catholic....Hellooo! Give someone else a turn already!

That would be a tough job, how many catholics in the world, a billion+, not to mention the rest of the world is watching your every move and decision, let's not forget the off balance people who have the urge to kill men of peace. The Pope was shot.

Eddie Murphy was questioning who/why on earth would a person want to shoot the Pope?! His thoughts- "He's a man of peace, why would anyone want to hurt him?...Maybe they want to go to hell and they don't want to stand in line with everyone!"
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 14 Apr, 2005 04:36 pm
In Catholic stronghold, the case for a Latin pope

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The cardinals' conclave begins Monday to select the next head of the Roman Catholic Church.

By Danna Harman | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

SANTA LUCIA, HONDURAS – The cardinals don't gather in the Sistine Chapel to select a successor to Pope John Paul II until Monday, but Ana Virginia Echeverria says she doesn't need to wait for a puff of white smoke to know what's in store. "It's Latin America's time," says Ms. Echeverria, perched in the front pew of Iglesia Santa Lucia, an 18-century church here in Honduras. A member of the church band, she tunes her guitar, strumming an F-sharp chord, and adds, "I feel it in my knees In the Monitor
Friday, 04/15/05
For many Latin American Catholics, it is indeed their time. As many as 450 million of the world's 1.1 billion Catholics live in Latin America, leading many here to say that the next pope should - and will - be one of them. But their preference is about more than sheer numbers. While the top issues in the US and European Catholic communities are things like homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia, and the sex-abuse scandal, Latin Catholics are focused on poverty, corruption, gangs, and drugs - not to mention the competition for believers with successful evangelical churches. In Africa, disease, war, famine, and the spread of Islam can be added to that list of concerns.

There is a growing clamor for a different kind of pope, says the Rev. Jose Jesus Mora, spokesman for the diocese in the Honduran capital, Tegucigalpa. The next pontiff, he says, should not only understand the issues that affect most Catholics today, but come from among them.

"Some of the European cardinals visit and empathize," says Father Mora. "But more often they fly in and out for a ceremony, if they come at all. They are not truly familiar with us and our villages of the faithful."

"The future of the Catholic Church is in the southern hemisphere," agrees David Carrasco, professor of Latin American studies at Harvard Divinity School in Cambridge, Mass. "And if the new pope does not come from that future, then the church will continue to lose ground to movements and churches that speak to the long, unrelenting agony of many types of colonialism."

'Strengthening our faith'

A brown mutt races down the center nave of the Church of Santa Lucia, skidding down the polished tile and heralding the way for Father Miguel Herrera. He walks in from the blinding morning sunshine, spreads his arms, and blesses the congregation. "No one believed 26 years ago we would have a Polish pope ... and yet God chose him," he says. "The Latin American moment is arriving." Just the mere notion, he adds, forming a cross in the air, "is strengthening our faith."

A handful of cardinals from Latin America are said to be among the contenders to be the next pontiff. They include Mexico City's conservative Archbishop Norberto Rivera Carrera; Archbishop Claudio Hummes of São Paulo, Brazil, a defender of trade unions and the poor; and Argentina's José Mario Bergoglio, a member of the Jesuit order who studied chemistry and travels around Buenos Aires by bus.

Then there is Honduras's Cardinal Oscar Andrés Rodriguez Maradiaga, a charismatic left-leaning intellectual who speaks eight languages; flies light aircraft; and holds degrees in philosophy, theology, clinical psychology, and psychotherapy. Cardinal Rodriguez Maradiaga has presided over the Latin American bishops' conference, and once campaigned for Third World debt relief alongside U2's Bono.

"What more could you want?" asks guitarist Echeverria, launching into a hymn. "He is the right one."
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 23 Apr, 2005 08:49 am
ehBeth wrote:
Aloysius Cardinal Ambrozic


Our charming cardinal speaks to au's original question

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snip

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it appears that, under the papal election machinery created by John Paul in 1996, Benedict was a shoo-in from almost the outset of balloting.

The authoritative British Catholic magazine Tablet reported that the riformisti cardinals were disorganized. Their champion, Cardinal Carlo Martini, didn't want the job. And the Latin American cardinals, although eager for one of their own to be pope, lacked the staff and resources to mount a remotely effective campaign, Tablet said.

In addition, many of the cardinals were reported to be too nervous about electing a pope from the global South this time around.


globe and mail link
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recklesssarcastic
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2005 11:55 am
well eorl, considering that the vatican and the pope are head of the catholic church, it might be a while before that happens...
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Eorl
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 10:34 pm
now, you'd think, of all people, YOU would recognize a bit of reckless sarcasm when you saw it. :wink:
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