Tico and others, Next time you want medical advise, ask a Certified Nursing Assistant over all the other doctors and Registered Nurses. I'm sure you'll be happy with their "testimony" of skilled care.
When I need medical care, I don't go to people with CNA certificates, I go see an MD or a specialist.
cicerone imposter wrote:Tico and others, Next time you want medical advise, ask a Certified Nursing Assistant over all the other doctors and Registered Nurses. I'm sure you'll be happy with their "testimony" of skilled care.
Next time I need a M.D. to tell me whether someone is drinking the water I put in their mouth, I'll bear that in mine.
One CNA vs all the other Registered Nurses and doctors - makes it a rather easy decision for me; I trust doctors and RNs more than I do one CNA.
A major research institution has recently announced the discovery of the heaviest chemical yet known to science. This new element has been tentatively named "Governmentium".
Governmentium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.
Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected as it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A tiny amount of Governmentium causes one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would normally take less than a second.
Governmentium has a normal half-life of four years; it does not decay but instead, it undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time since each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes. This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to speculate that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypocritical quantity is referred to as "Critical Morass." You will know it when you see it.
When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium, an element which radiates just as much energy since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons.
cicerone imposter wrote:One CNA vs all the other Registered Nurses and doctors - makes it a rather easy decision for me; I trust doctors and RNs more than I do one CNA.
Fine. I take it you have competing proof to bring to the table?
Ticomaya wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:Tico and others, Next time you want medical advise, ask a Certified Nursing Assistant over all the other doctors and Registered Nurses. I'm sure you'll be happy with their "testimony" of skilled care.
Next time I need a M.D. to tell me whether someone is drinking the water I put in their mouth, I'll bear that in mine.
Hell even I know that ....... when they turn purple and their arms and legs are thrashing about ... that's a bad sign ...... stop pouring
Ticomaya wrote:Fine. I take it you have competing proof to bring to the table?
According to
this 2003 news story about the allegations of Heidi Law and the other two nurses (which the Court, as we know,
was to find "incredible to say the least", noting that "the affidavit of Ms. Law speaks of Terri responding on a
constant basis" while "neither in the testimony nor in the medical records is there support for these affidavits as they purport to detail activities and responses of Terri Schiavo"), their affidavits were furthermore counterbalanced by "previous court testimony of full-time caregivers who said they never saw any indication of cognitive function from Terri".
CNN, Fox featured ex-Schiavo nurse whose affidavit was dismissed as "incredible" by judge
On March 22, both CNN's Live From... and Fox News' Fox and Friends aired interviews with Carla Sauer Iyer -- a former nurse for Terri Schiavo who in 2003 submitted an affidavit with inflammatory accusations against Terri's husband, Michael Schiavo -- but failed to report questions about Iyer's credibility. Judge George W. Greer, the Florida circuit judge who has presided over several aspects of the Schiavo case, dismissed Iyer's allegations as "incredible" and noted in a September 17, 2003, order that not even Terri Schiavo's parents sought her testimony in the case.
In both appearances, Iyer was presented as a former nurse for Terri Schiavo. Fox introduced her as a "registered nurse in Florida" who "cared for Terri for more than a year between '95 and 1996." In addition, on-screen text described Iyer as "Carla Sauer Iyer; Cared for Terri Schiavo." On CNN, Iyer was introduced as a "nurse who says that she cared for Terri Schiavo [for] more than a year in the mid-1990s." As with Fox, CNN's on-screen text described Iyer as "Terri Schiavo's former nurse." Another on-screen text line presented on CNN stated that Iyer "testified about Terri Schiavo's physical state." However, according to Greer's September 2003 order, Schiavo's parents had not subpoenaed Iyer to testify.
In both a 2003 court affidavit (posted on the website operated by Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler) and her March 22 cable appearances, Iyer maintained that Terri Schiavo was constantly "alert and oriented" while under her care, "saying such things as 'mommy,' and 'help me.' " She claimed that "Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri's death. Michael would say 'When is she going to die?' 'Has she died yet?' and 'When is that bitch gonna die?' " The affidavit also included her claims that Michael Schiavo expressed the desire to "accelerate" Terri's death, that when Terri was sick and looked as if she might die, "He [Michael] would blurt out 'I'm going to be rich,' " and the assertion that "t is my belief that Michael injected Terri with Regular insulin" to intentionally make her sick. She claimed in her affidavit that "I ultimately called the police relative to this situation, and was terminated the next day."
Greer dismissed Iyer's charges, noting that they -- along with a similar affidavit given by Heidi Law, another nurse who formerly took care of Terri Schiavo -- were "incredible to say the least" and that "[n]either in the testimony nor in the medical records is there support for these affidavits as they purport to detail activities and responses of Terri Schiavo." From Greer's decision:
The remaining affidavits deal exclusively with events which allegedly occurred in the 1995-1997 time frame. The court feels constrained to discuss them. They are incredible to say the least. Ms. Iyer details what amounts to a 15-month cover-up which would include the staff of Palm Garden of Lago Convalescent Center, the Guardian of the Person, the Guardian ad Litem, the medical professionals, the police and, believe it or not, Mr. and Mrs. Schindler. Her affidavit clearly states that she would "call them (Mr. and Mrs. Schindler) anyway because I thought they should know about their daughter." The affidavit of Ms. Law speaks of Terri responding on a constant basis. Neither in the testimony nor in the medical records is there support for these affidavits as they purport to detail activities and responses of Terri Schiavo. It is impossible to believe that Mr. and Mrs. Schindler would not have subpoenaed Ms. Iyer for the January 2000 evidentiary hearing had she contacted them as her affidavit alleges.
Debra_Law wrote:Dookiestix wrote:Terri Shiavo's life ended 15 years ago, and the brain scans seem to indicate just as much.
The entire nation stood by and watched reputable doctors and the courts make rational and informed decisions. The rightwing media machine completely disregarded science and lied constantly in order to turn this into a political farce.
Terri Schiavo was very much alive on March 18, 2005, when food and water was taken away from her. She was very much alive for the next 13 days until she finally succumbed to death by starvation and dehydration.
It is neither rational nor enlightened to intentionally impose death upon an innocent human being merely because you and others believe that her existence is unworthy.
Her body was alive, but her brain was gone. What part of the brain scans do you not understand, Debra_Law? Amazing how you neocons will trust the wisdom of charlaton doctors over a wealth of data from reputable medical resources.
It's also quite amazing that Pat Robertson would refer to one of the doctors as a "Nobel Prize Winning Neurosurgeon," when he was never offically even nominated.
It's extremely amazing that you'd have a guy who threatened abortion clinics with violence as the spokesperson for this poor, grieving family, who have been taken for a ride by these bottom dwelling scum suckers.
And it's probably the most bizarre that you will listen to this crap on a daily basis in forming your opinions.
Truly astounding, really...
p.s. I had no idea a brainless body could be worthy of existence. Boy, talk about being enlightened...
It would seem Terri Shiavo has been one, big neoconservative distraction from this:
Quote:"Keep in mind the fact that this war's going to happen regardless of what Curve Ball said or didn't say and that the Powers That Be probably aren't terribly interested in whether Curve Ball knows what he's talking about," the CIA official wrote.
It's truly amazing how many news stories were based on Terri Shiavo vs. the unbelievable mess in Iraq and this whole unjustified war.
D-I-S-T-R-A-C-T-I-O-N. A tried and true neocon way of playing this media game...
Dookiestix wrote:D-I-S-T-R-A-C-T-I-O-N. A tried and true neocon way of playing this media game...
And your only motive in posting on this site at all is that you plan to write an expose about A2K. It's despicable that you use the site like this to further your own career.
Quote, "And your only motive in posting on this site at all is that you plan to write an expose about A2K. It's despicable that you use the site like this to further your own career."
ROFLMAO
cicerone imposter wrote:Quote, "And your only motive in posting on this site at all is that you plan to write an expose about A2K. It's despicable that you use the site like this to further your own career."
ROFLMAO
Yes, I'm tired of his deceitful claim that he is espousing these opinions, merely because they are his opinions. I know the dirty, little game he is playing.
Brandon, You haven't a clue why I laughed.
cicerone imposter wrote:Brandon, You haven't a clue why I laughed.
I will be candid with you....I do not. It would be reasonable, however, to assume that you have been making some imbecilic gaffe all day and only now realized it.
Brandon9000 wrote:Dookiestix wrote:D-I-S-T-R-A-C-T-I-O-N. A tried and true neocon way of playing this media game...
And your only motive in posting on this site at all is that you plan to write an expose about A2K. It's despicable that you use the site like this to further your own career.
I have a career. I'm a graphic designer.
And what expose could you possibly be talking about?
Brandon9000 wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:Brandon, You haven't a clue why I laughed.
I will be candid with you....I do not. It would be reasonable, however, to assume that
you have been making some imbecilic gaffe all day and only now realized it.
I seriously doubt that...
My, my, seems I got under his skin.
LOL
Dookiestix wrote:Brandon9000 wrote:Dookiestix wrote:D-I-S-T-R-A-C-T-I-O-N. A tried and true neocon way of playing this media game...
And your only motive in posting on this site at all is that you plan to write an expose about A2K. It's despicable that you use the site like this to further your own career.
I have a career. I'm a graphic designer.
And what expose could you possibly be talking about?
It is all too clear that you only espouse these positions for crass, commercial reasons connected with a book project, and I, for one, think it is awful that you are capitalizing on A2K this way.
