ehBeth wrote:Republican-appointee, Baptist, Judge Greer?
Only one of many players from my reading. If his decision had been faulty, the majority of the appeals would have been successful. The Philanthropy Roundtable is one of many groups that threw a lot of money at the lawyers on the Schindler's team to keep it going - if there was something truly wrong with the original decision, you'd think the team would have found it.
It continually surprises me that anyone thinks his religion or his politics make a difference in this case.
A yes or no should have been easy enough, Foxfyre.
"I don't respect you, so you won't be getting an answer" was an interesting response.
BBB I probably have the timeline at least subjectively memorized. I certainly have reviewed it several times. I also have paid attention to what people with far more expertise in matters of law than I do have said about it. And I have noted what appear to have been pretty serious errors that have been made. Judge Greer made the ruling. All the other courts since that time have reviewed the criteria, ie methodology he used to make his ruling. They did not review the merits of the case nor the skill of the lawyers presenting it.
I feel I am quite entitled to my opinion, and I do not believe it to be an unreasoned one.
It's time deflate the football and leave. At least as far as I am concerned.
Foxfyre wrote:Can you cite any instance where I have said Judge Greer's opinion was rendered illegally? Do you understand the concept of Straw Man?
Don't have to look too far....
Quote:Foxfyre wrote:And Michael Schiavos lawyers threw money at Judge Greer's re-election campaign. So it probably is a wash ehBeth. The point is, the Schindler's attorney did not raise certain issues that might or might not have changed Judge Greer's decision. I'm no attorney.....are you?.....but I have been listening to the post mortems presented by talking heads in the legal profession as well as those attorneys offering informed opinions on various threads in A2K related to this.
Quote:And Michael Schiavos lawyers threw money at Judge Greer's re-election campaign.
Sounds pretty close to this reader that justice can be purchased from judge Greer. I don't suppose you can backup that claime ....
Here you go Geli. There are lots of other 'hits' but this one is short and to the point. I have not said nor implied that Judge Greer was 'bought' but only mentioned the contributions as an offset to others' insinuations that the Schindlers made 'inappropriate' contributions.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43493
WOW! A whole $250 to buy Judge Greer. Get real, for crying out loud.
When researching for something else, I ran across the following which raises further questions re George Felos, the hospice where Terri was confined, etc. I post it without comment as I have no knowledge of the person or organization behind the post.
http://neprimer.com/cc/articles/Guests/Greer-v-Govan.htm
Quote from Fox's link, "According to Florida's Department of State, Pinellas County Circuit Court Judge George W. Greer received a contribution of $250 for his 2004 re-election campaign from Felos & Felos, the law firm of George Felos."
In Florida it's not illegal...just...uhmm...unseemly.
But how important is this to the whole picture..I'm wondering.
Wow
What a magnificent amount $250. What than should we say about our Congress people and our glorious leader?
It wasn't just the $250 bucks (though Geli could be a gentleman a acknowledge that I wasn't just blowing smoke.) Members of the law firm associated with Felos also sent contributions. How important was it? Not at all in my opinion. It is only useful to offset aspersions cast on the Schindlers on that score.
If the decision was wrong, the appeals would have been successful.
<and if we want to start looking at donations made to campaigns of decision makers, that's a whole other marvellous thread>
So your "straw man" attempt at character assassination didn't work. Isn't that somet'n.
When you judge the amount you undermine our judicial system. Would $2,500 give Fox a better case?
How bout $25,000? Maybe that would be cause for alarm.
It's the timing that wafts a bad odour IMO
The appeals were denied. No court agreed to retry the case. So all we can see from the appeal process is that Judge Greer did not act improperly or illegally in the opinion of higher courts. And thanks Panzade. Unfortunately the issue of law firms supporting judges is quite widespread and however smelly it gets, I doubt that will change until some laws are put into place preventing it.
Fox's earlier post, "And Michael Schiavos lawyers threw money at Judge Greer's re-election campaign. So it probably is a wash ehBeth. The point is, the Schindler's attorney did not raise certain issues that might or might not have changed Judge Greer's decision."
It's context that counts, fox. "Threw money" has only one meaning in the context in which you used it. Straw man is all over your posts. Quit accusing other people when you're guilty yourself.
Unfortunately the only alternative here is to forbid contributions and fund elections from tax money...something that people here aren't ready for.
