Some of us came in late. It's the curse of the forums. Fortunately we don't bend to subtle censorship either.
Yeah, we can all blame the Texas legislator for all the capital punishment during Bush's watch too!
Bush didn't set the punishment; he just refused to give anyone a break.
Quote, "Bush didn't set the punishment; he just refused to give anyone a break." We know Bush didn't set the punishment, but he's the bloke that says "each life is precious!" It's also been proven that not all covicted criminals were responsible for the crime they were charged with; some innocent people were "killed." We call it "responsibility" of the gov.
cicerone imposter wrote:Quote, "Bush didn't set the punishment; he just refused to give anyone a break." We know Bush didn't set the punishment, but he's the bloke that says "each life is precious!" It's also been proven that not all covicted criminals were responsible for the crime they were charged with; some innocent people were "killed." We call it "responsibility" of the gov.
As I understand Texas law,once a governor decides NOT to grant clemency,thats it.
So,if Ma Richards decided not to grant clemency to a death row inmate,then Bush CANNOT review the case again.
So,even if he had wanted to,his hands were tied.
I just used different words to say the same thing you did, CI.
Can you Bush-haters please make up your minds: Did Bush have power/authority while governor of Texas, or not?
It seems a bit disengenuous to frequently hear how he had all this power as it regards what you consider to be the evils of Texas government, and therefore he is to blame for said evils ... then to hear how he didn't have real power/authority as governor. Which is it?
I'm gonna stick with he's a dick!
Not very convincing, or supportable.
You know, the GOP takes out it's trash. You put yours in charge of the party.
And, I don't think we'll give you--Bush is responsible when it's bad, and not when it's good.
Geez. The downward spiral of the Democrat party--evidenced here. Principle shifts with the wind direction.
Lash wrote:You know, the GOP takes out it's trash.
Last I heard Coburn and DeMint were still GOP Senators. Not to mention DeLay...
If the GOP took out its trash . . . Well, I guess I won't say it.
We'll let the Democrats respond to some of their trash. Tired of the double standard.
DeLay looks like he's on his way out--but PLENTY of pols on both sides of the aisle "employ" family members.
I just don't like DeLay. There are several on the Democrat side who are just as bad or worse than DeLay.
I would guess there are some on the democratic side of the aisle that are worse than Delay. So lets all just forget about Delay. Interesting logic. OK here's one for you, the child molester a few weeks ago, remember him? well there is some evidence that there was a worse case child molester in California that week so we should drop the charges against the one in Florida that got caught. right?
No. But don't scream in Colorado about pervs in Texas and let the guy down the street kill all the little girls in your neighborhood.
NYTimes.com > Washington
Frist Set to Join Religious Effort on Judicial Issue
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: April 15, 2005
WASHINGTON, April 14 - As the Senate heads toward a showdown over the rules governing judicial confirmations, Senator Bill Frist, the majority leader, has agreed to join a handful of prominent Christian conservatives in a telecast portraying Democrats as "against people of faith" for blocking President Bush's nominees.
Fliers for the telecast, organized by the Family Research Council and scheduled to originate at a Kentucky megachurch the evening of April 24, call the day "Justice Sunday" and depict a young man holding a Bible in one hand and a gavel in the other. The flier does not name participants, but under the heading "the filibuster against people of faith," it reads: "The filibuster was once abused to protect racial bias, and it is now being used against people of faith."
Organizers say they hope to reach more than a million people by distributing the telecast to churches around the country, over the Internet and over Christian television and radio networks and stations.
Dr. Frist's spokesman said the senator's speech in the telecast would reflect his previous remarks on judicial appointments. In the past he has consistently balanced a determination "not to yield" on the president's nominees with appeals to the Democrats for compromise. He has distanced himself from the statements of others like the House majority leader, Tom DeLay, who have attacked the courts, saying they are too liberal, "run amok" or are hostile to Christianity.
The telecast, however, will put Dr. Frist in a very different context. Asked about Dr. Frist's participation in an event describing the filibuster "as against people of faith," his spokesman, Bob Stevenson, did not answer the question directly.
"Senator Frist is doing everything he can to ensure judicial nominees are treated fairly and that every senator has the opportunity to give the president their advice and consent through an up or down vote," Mr. Stevenson said, adding, "He has spoken to groups all across the nation to press that point, and as long as a minority of Democrats continue to block a vote, he will continue to do so."
Some of the nation's most influential evangelical Protestants are participating in the teleconference in Louisville, including Dr. James C. Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family; Chuck Colson, the born-again Watergate figure and founder of Prison Fellowship Ministries; and Dr. Al Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.
The event is taking place as Democrats and Republicans alike are escalating their public relations campaigns in anticipation of an imminent confrontation. The Democratic minority has blocked confirmation of 10 of President Bush's judicial nominees by preventing Republicans from gaining the 60 votes needed to close debate, using the filibuster tactic often used by political minorities and most notoriously employed by opponents of civil rights.
Dr. Frist has threatened that the Republican majority might change the rules to require only a majority vote on nominees, and Democrats have vowed to bring Senate business to a standstill if he does.
On Thursday, one wavering Republican, Senator John McCain of Arizona, told the television interviewer Chris Matthews that he would vote against the change.
"By the way, when Bill Clinton was president, we, effectively, in the Judiciary Committee blocked a number of his nominees," Mr. McCain said.
On Thursday the Judiciary Committee sent the nomination of Thomas B. Griffith for an appellate court post to the Senate floor. Democrats say they do not intend to block Mr. Griffith's nomination.
That cleared the way for the committee to approve several previously blocked judicial appointees in the next two weeks.
The telecast also signals an escalation of the campaign for the rule change by Christian conservatives who see the current court battle as the climax of a 30-year culture war, a chance to reverse decades of legal decisions about abortion, religion in public life, gay rights and marriage.
"As the liberal, anti-Christian dogma of the left has been repudiated in almost every recent election, the courts have become the last great bastion for liberalism," Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council and organizer of the telecast, wrote in a message on the group's Web site. "For years activist courts, aided by liberal interest groups like the A.C.L.U., have been quietly working under the veil of the judiciary, like thieves in the night, to rob us of our Christian heritage and our religious freedoms."
Democrats accused Dr. Frist of exploiting religious faith for political ends by joining the telecast. "No party has a monopoly on faith, and for Senator Frist to participate in this kind of telecast just throws more oil on the partisan flames," said Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York.
But Mr. Perkins stood by the characterization of Democrats as hostile to faith. "What they have done is, they have targeted people for reasons of their faith or moral position," he said, referring to Democratic criticisms of nominees over their views of cases about abortion rights or public religious expressions.
"The issue of the judiciary is really something that has been veiled by this 'judicial mystique' so our folks don't really understand it, but they are beginning to connect the dots," Mr. Perkins said in an interview, reciting a string of court decisions about prayer or displays of religion.
"They were all brought about by the courts," he said.
Democrats, for their part, are already stepping up their efforts to link Dr. Frist and the rule change with conservatives statements about unaccountable judges hostile to faith.
On Thursday, Mr. Schumer released an open letter calling on Dr. Frist to denounce such attacks. "The last thing we need is inflammatory rhetoric which on its face encourages violence against judges," he wrote.
Why is it when we get the goods on a Republican, the Republicans try to change the subject, but definitely not take out their own trash.
The US is no longer secular.
