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Has the Schiavo case Become a Political Football?

 
 
Ethel2
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 11:05 am
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On a related note, Kansas voted overwhelmingly yesterday to amend the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage and civil unions. The amendment was approved by more than a 2-1 ratio .... Kansas is the 18th state to ban gay marriage by constitutional amendment.


Yes, and it's significant that it's Kansas, isn't it? We're back to the Monkey trial again.

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Fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy and needs feeding.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 11:47 am
Lola wrote:
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On a related note, Kansas voted overwhelmingly yesterday to amend the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage and civil unions. The amendment was approved by more than a 2-1 ratio .... Kansas is the 18th state to ban gay marriage by constitutional amendment.


Yes, and it's significant that it's Kansas, isn't it? We're back to the Monkey trial again.

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Fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy and needs feeding.


As far as I know, the only significance is that was the headline in my local newspaper this morning. Care to elucidate what you think the significance is?
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 12:07 pm
Apparently, we missed those posts from you each morning where you share your paper's headline with us.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 12:08 pm
blatham wrote:
Apparently, we missed those posts from you each morning where you share your paper's headline with us.


I have been remiss, and promise to do better henceforth.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 12:24 pm
So, care to elucidate what you think the significance is? It was your post, not Lola's.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 12:30 pm
blatham wrote:
So, care to elucidate what you think the significance is? It was your post, not Lola's.


She said it was significant, not I.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 01:38 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
blatham wrote:
So, care to elucidate what you think the significance is? It was your post, not Lola's.


She said it was significant, not I.


So are you admitting that what you're posting is totally insignificant?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 02:02 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
blatham wrote:
So, care to elucidate what you think the significance is? It was your post, not Lola's.


She said it was significant, not I.


So are you admitting that what you're posting is totally insignificant?


No ... it was Lola who said that it was "Kansas" was significant.

Lola wrote:
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On a related note, Kansas voted overwhelmingly yesterday to amend the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage and civil unions. The amendment was approved by more than a 2-1 ratio .... Kansas is the 18th state to ban gay marriage by constitutional amendment.


Yes, and it's significant that it's Kansas, isn't it? We're back to the Monkey trial again.
...


http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1266224#1266224
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 02:23 pm
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LAW/07/13/scopes.monkey.trial/

http://www.ljworld.com/section/evolution/story/197066

What, Tico, you've never heard of the Monkey trials of the 1920's? Or is it that you need a little help in understanding what IS significant on this thread? Laughing

Do YOU think Gay marriage would lead to beastiality? Shocked
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 02:31 pm
I have a question for all of you that want to claim that this case is an assault on the judiciary.

How is it an assault on the judiciary?
What congress did was perfectly legal and within their powers to do.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 02:35 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/LAW/07/13/scopes.monkey.trial/

http://www.ljworld.com/section/evolution/story/197066

What, Tico, you've never heard of the Monkey trials of the 1920's? Or is it that you need a little help in understanding what IS significant on this thread? Laughing


Certainly I've heard of the Scopes trial. Heck, I'd even assumed that's the "monkey trial" she was referring to.

Now, perhaps you will explain why Lola believes it to be significant that Kansas has passed an amendment banning same-sex marriage? Since you don't need help in that regard and all.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 02:40 pm
Well, I thought I was by pointing out those trials. But now...?

Rolling Eyes

Oooboy...
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 02:49 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
Well, I thought I was by pointing out those trials. But now...?

Rolling Eyes

Oooboy...


Are you serious? You thought you were explaining why Lola thinks it significant that Kansas passed a same-sex amendment to its Constitution by pointing out she was referring to the Scopes trial?

If you don't know the significance, just say so. If you do know the significance, just say so. But please don't feign superiority ... it doesn't suit you.

Rolling Eyes
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Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 02:57 pm
mysteryman wrote:
How is it an assault on the judiciary?
What congress did was perfectly legal and within their powers to do.

How so? Please show me how it doesn't violate the 14th amendment to create a situation where one set of laws applies to Terri Schiavo, and a different set of laws applies to everybody else in her situation.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 03:20 pm
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If you don't know the significance, just say so. If you do know the significance, just say so. But please don't feign superiority ... it doesn't suit you.


And you're not? Laughing
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 03:22 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
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If you don't know the significance, just say so. If you do know the significance, just say so. But please don't feign superiority ... it doesn't suit you.


And you're not? Laughing


I'll assume, then, that you don't know the significance .....
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 03:42 pm
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Can't you understand? If you take a law like evolution and you make it a crime to teach it in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools? And tomorrow you may make it a crime to read about it. And soon you may ban books and newspapers. And then you may turn Catholic against Protestant, and Protestant against Protestant, and try to foist your own religion upon the mind of man. If you can do one, you can do the other. Because fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy, and needs feeding. And soon, your Honor, with banners flying and with drums beating we'll be marching backward, BACKWARD, through the glorious ages of that Sixteenth Century when bigots burned the man who dared to bring enlightenment and intelligence to the human mind!


My mistake, Tico. The Scopes trial was in Tennessee, not Kansas. It was Kansas in the movie, Inherit the Wind, starring Fredric March, Spencer Tracy and Gene Kelly. All names and places in the movie were changed. The above quote is from the movie.

http://hometheaterinfo.com/inherit_the_wind.htm

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/scopes.htm

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That the play has thrived for decades suggests a usefulness far deeper than merely a characteristic look at America in the 1920s. In fact, further analysis reveals that aside from endless community theatre shows, the large-scale productions of Inherit over the past 40 years coincide with periods of crisis in American culture and a heightened debate over creationism versus evolution. To scholars, such as John Crowe Ransom and James Hunter, this issue is not an isolated one. Instead, both Ransom and Hunter believe that the proceedings of the Scopes trial and the subsequent dramatizations mirror a continuous cultural conflict between different belief systems. Although Hunter labels the two camps progressive and orthodox and Ransom refers to the modernists and fundamentalists, both base their definitions on where people look for meaning in an increasingly complex world. The story of Inherit the Wind, can be read, therefore, as far more than twelve sweltering days in history; it is, instead, the narrative of a nation and the continual struggle for control and the license to write the past of a people.


http://xroads.virginia.edu/~UG97/inherit/intro.html
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 03:51 pm
Not a problem, Lola. Thanks for explaining.

During his campaign for Governator, people complained about sexist dialogue Ahnoldt spoke in some of his movies, so I can understand where you're coming from. Laughing
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 03:54 pm
Tennessee, Kansas,...

What's the difference?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 04:10 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
Tennessee, Kansas,...

What's the difference?


http://www.50states.com/us.htm
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