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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 11:46 am
Quote:
June 02, 2011 1:30 PM
Obama emphasizes investments in GOP talks

Congressional Republicans have been willing to dish on what they told President Obama during yesterday’s meeting at the White House, but we haven’t heard too much about what the president said in response.

I probably shouldn’t read too much into it, but I found this quote pretty interesting.

“The discussion really focused on the philosophical difference on whether Washington should continue to pump money into the economy or should we provide an incentive for entrepreneurs and small businesses to grow,” said Eric Cantor, the majority leader. “The president talked about a need for us to continue to quote-unquote invest from Washington’s standpoint, and for a lot of us that’s code for more Washington spending, something that we can’t afford right now.”

Now, in general, it’s very difficult to take Cantor’s general approach to economic policy seriously. The fact that he considers public investments to be “code” for spending, and spending is, you know, bad, is a reminder that Cantor isn’t especially bright.

But what I liked about his comments is that it suggests the president is still thinking along the right lines.

Indeed, assuming Cantor offered a reasonably accurate assessment of the discussion, I’m actually pretty encouraged by Obama’s message. As the Majority Leader sees it, the president still wants to pump money into the economy and invest in job creation. Republicans, in their infinite wisdom, think this is a terrible idea — why people don’t just laugh in their face when Republicans talk about economic policy is a mystery to me — but my concern has been the president has forgotten about growth and jobs altogether.

According to what he appears to have told Republicans in private, Obama still wants to “quote-unquote invest” — as well he should.

I agree with Cantor on one thing: there is a “philosophical difference.” But to my mind, that’s all the more reason to have a grand public debate that’s long overdue. The president can make the case that the nation needs to focus on job creation, not long-term debt reduction, and the way to bring down the unemployment rate is to invest in areas like infrastructure, energy, and education.

Then Republicans can explain why they believe unemployment will go down after they lay off thousands of public sector workers, and why we’ll be better off after the GOP takes money out of the economy.

For all the talk in the media about tactics and strategies, we rarely hear a meaningful discussion about why Republicans believe what they believe. Sometimes, on Sunday mornings, I’m tempted to offer David Gregory $50 to ask one of his many GOP guests, “Why, exactly, do you think austerity measures will create a stronger economy? Can you explain this in any depth at all? Why do you fear inflation that doesn’t appear to exist? When you talk about the government ‘crowding out’ the private sector, do you even know what that means?”

We have a weak economy and two competing approaches to make it better. Let’s have the damn debate.


http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_06/obama_emphasizes_investments_i029983.php

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 11:47 am
waterboy still haven't figured it out that GW Bush didn't create jobs after his promise on his tax cuts.

Look under Bush Tax Cuts. http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/323.html

There were negative job growth after Bush's tax cuts.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 12:31 pm
@Thomas,
Thank you. Last visit was in 2007. Things weren't so good. Argentina has, as you know experienced fairly extreme cycles of inflation and contraction and several debt/currency crises. Not a good climate for steady investment and innovation - as are occurring to a much greater degree in Brasil.

Interesting discussion I'll take up again on Sunday (or sooner if the forecast rain materializes).
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 01:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,


Poor little imposter still wants to blame Bush and hasn't figured
out that the liberal left has been in charge for the last 4 years.

Imposters ignorance never ceases to amaze.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 01:58 pm


Economy is Still Weakened by Democrats
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 09:23 pm
From the NYT.
Quote:
The treasury secretary, Timothy F. Geithner, met on Capitol Hill with House freshmen, including Republicans who have suggested that they see little or no risk in a showdown over the debt limit. Citing the Moody’s statement, Mr. Geithner urged them to support raising it or risk an economic crisis.

“We didn’t create this mess,” one Republican told Mr. Geithner, according to a person in the room.

Independent analyses have shown that more than half of the $14.3 trillion debt is from policies enacted during the past decade when Republicans controlled both the White House and Congress, and much of the rest from lost revenues and stimulus spending and tax cuts since Mr. Obama took office at the height of the financial crisis and recession.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 07:18 am
@cicerone imposter,
Geithner the tax cheat?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 07:20 am


Obama has no plan to bring our private sector economy back. He has grand plans to expand the
size of government and to improve the economic lives of those who work for government however.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 07:21 am

Many experts think we’re heading back into another recession. Inflation is up. In fact, if we measured inflation with the same metrics that were in use when Jimmy Carter was in office the inflation rate would be around 10%.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 11:25 am


Obamanomics

Jobless Rate Hits 9.1% Amid Bleak Economic Data
parados
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 03:32 pm
@H2O MAN,
It's a good thing the GOP made sure we didn't do another stimulus package to keep the economy going.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 03:51 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:


(I)f we measured inflation with the same metrics that were in use when Jimmy Carter was in office the inflation rate would be around 10%.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 03:52 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:


(I)f we measured inflation with the same metrics that were in use when Jimmy Carter was in office the inflation rate would be around 10%.

What metrics are you referring to? CPI-W? CPI-U?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 05:19 pm
"The report, which showed the unemployment rate rose to 9.1 percent, fueled Republican demands that the Obama administration change direction on its economic policy. But the president, addressing auto workers at a Chrysler plant in Ohio, said it will continue to take time for the economy to heal after such a massive shock in 2008".
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2011 07:35 am


Cain Preaches Economics
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2011 10:02 am
http://i.imgur.com/LRd9C.png
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2011 10:34 am
@edgarblythe,
Isn't that about the truth!
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2011 10:48 am


Obama has been informed that he must rely on the private sector to
turn our weak economy around... this news does not make him happy.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2011 10:54 am
@H2O MAN,
You say stupid stuff, because you are clueless.

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2011 11:19 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicgirl, you are the queen of the whining dumbmasses

The fact is that Obama has been informed that he must rely on the private sector and
not government to turn our weak economy around... the news does not make him happy.
 

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