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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 03:36 pm
@realjohnboy,
You are missing something, keep looking and thinking... it should become clear to you.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 03:53 pm
@H2O MAN,
Witty perhaps in your mind, but vacuous in mine. Could you explain why it would be in the interest of Obama to squelch the S&P downgrade threat? I can't find any source other than Fox snarling about the story. Perhaps I am not digging deeply enough. What have you found?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 03:59 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
The context I am talking about is based on the relationship between cutting taxes for the wealthy as well as cutting Medicare and Medical. Is the poll telling us that even republicans want taxes cut on the wealthy while reducing funding for Medicare and Medical? I'm still confused, because most articles I've read emphasize the cuts in taxes for the wealthy, but not for Medicare and Medicare which is a contradiction.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 04:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

The context I am talking about is based on the relationship between cutting taxes for the wealthy as well as cutting Medicare and Medical. Is the poll telling us that even republicans want taxes cut on the wealthy while reducing funding for Medicare and Medical?


The poll is telling us that even majorities of Republicans want to raise taxes on the rich RATHER than cut medicare.

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I'm still confused, because most articles I've read emphasize the cuts in taxes for the wealthy, but not for Medicare and Medicare which is a contradiction.


I agree that this is the line that the Republican leadership has taken, but it's clear that their own party doesn't even support them.

It's not just one poll, either. Even 70% of self-described TEA PARTIERS don't want to cut medicare - probably because 70% of them are on it.

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/US110410/McClatchy/McClatchy-Marist%20Poll%20Complete%20April%2018th,%202011%20USA%20Poll%20Tables.pdf

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 04:42 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclo, Thanks for that link to the polls. It's just too much info to absorb and consolidate into any opinion, but it seems even in the different issues, there seems to be contradictions in how to handle the deficit. I may look at again later to restudy those poll results, but don't count on it. Also, I couldn't cut and paste from that link to summarize the results to study on one page.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 04:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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there seems to be contradictions in how to handle the deficit.
No,the polls show that the American people still want more than they are willing to pay for.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 04:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
I further think these latest polls, to include the popularity of Trump, show that American is going to have to crash hard before we get out act together. we are the proverbial addict who needs to find the bottom before they are ready to get clean.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 04:53 pm
@hawkeye10,
That's a contradiction. Simple logic.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 04:55 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

I further think these latest polls, to include the popularity of Trump, show that American is going to have to crash hard before we get out act together. we are the proverbial addict who needs to find the bottom before they are ready to get clean.


The 'popularity' of Trump is nothing more than a protest by Republicans that all their candidates suck.

Cycloptichorn
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 04:55 pm
@hawkeye10,
Crikey hawk--do you really think it's as bad as that or are you just exercising rhetorical flourishes?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 04:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

That's a contradiction. Simple logic.
Every time my kids ask for something that they want me to pay for they seem not conflicted at all. I suspect that logic does not mean what you think it does.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 05:06 pm
@hawkeye10,
It has taken you a long time to realise that hawk.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 05:06 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Crikey hawk--do you really think it's as bad as that or are you just exercising rhetorical flourishes?
I think it is as bad as all that. The nation is socially fractured between the political camps, the economy is hollowed out, the political system does not work, we consume far more than we can/will pay for, the debts are mounting fast, the education system does not work, the medical system does not work very well and is outragously expensive to operate, Wall Street not only does not work but has become a parasite, we have over 2% of our citizens rotting in prisons which need to be paid for, and the Yankee optimism is kaput to the point that we seem fine with giving up our rights to a police state on the basis of the a rape scare that has been floated in front of us.....lots of problems need our attention, but I dont see much action on them.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 05:11 pm
@hawkeye10,
We're not talking about your kids; it's about the national mindset to get the benefits without paying for it. The difference between the national debt and your debt is that the government can keep printing money to continuing to buy; you can't. Since taxpayers don't want to pay more in taxes, but want the benefits, that's a contradiction of major proportion. The federal deficit continues to grow, and that cannot be sustained for very long. Baby-boomers are now going to be retiring adding thousands to the benefit rolls. With no income to support them, well, you get the picture, don't you?
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 05:14 pm
@hawkeye10,
It sounds gruesome. Does Katie Couric understand all that? Assingnment America always leaves me with a rosy glow.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 05:17 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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With no income to support them, well, you get the picture, don't you?
Ya, I get the picture.

A great many Americans are sanctimonious shits, who go around giving lectures to everyone else about how they should be running their lives, but who are worthless when it comes to doing so little as to pull their own weight. BUT THEY DAMN SURE FEEL GREAT ABOUT THEIR MORAL SUPERIORITY!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 06:02 pm
@mysteryman,
Actually, the idea of trying the prisoners on a civilian court, as in the Nuremberg Trials, brought so much hatred from the right onto Eric Holder that he might never recover.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 06:35 pm
@realjohnboy,

Are you really surprised that the big 3 Obama media have not picked up the story?
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Wed 20 Apr, 2011 07:04 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
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The 'popularity' of Trump is nothing more than a protest by Republicans that all their candidates suck.


Well said.
 

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