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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 05:55 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
"It's only 215 or so pages long, you ******* moron."

Why do I waste my time with you? You're about as sharp as a bowling ball.

spendius
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 05:58 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
But Cyclo--none of you know what you are talking about. Neither do the authors of the articles you read and the spouters of the spiels you listen to with rapt attention.

The experts, are all over the place.

It's a form of bullfighting only dispensing with the bull. Spiels locking horns. The whole idea is to be able to call somebody a wanker and provide a specious proof. And the compliment being returned.

What do you want research and data from polls for?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 05:59 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

"It's only 215 or so pages long, you ******* moron."

Why do I waste my time with you? You're about as sharp as a bowling ball.


I got your lame attempt at a joke. But it was so far off the mark I just had to point it out. Laughing

I must say that it takes a lot of chutzpah on your part, to criticize someone who brings actual data to the table regarding the discussion at hand - while presenting no data yourself. Nor do you plan to present data. Do you find such arguments persuasive or respectable? Do assertions sway you or make you think the other person knows what they are talking about?

I suspect that they do not. But you don't seem to be capable of either admitting that or taking the time to formulate actual arguments. You just come in, make assertions based on your personal opinions, and then slink out with a sneer - over and over.

Cycloptichorn
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 06:03 pm
@realjohnboy,
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Christie is the messenger who can do that?
IDK
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 06:05 pm
@JPB,
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He's apparently gone after the budget deficit in New Jersey like a mad man.
Lets not forget the he backed the state out of the Hudson tunnel project even though the feds were willing to pick up a lot of the check, because he concluded that his state is too broke to deal with the rest of the cost, plus the state was on the hook for cost overruns....

this guy for sure is not all talk like so many politicians are, he has at least some walk in him too...
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 06:07 pm
@okie,
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Bottom line, the idea deserves more consideration than it has received.


Give over okie. The idea will have been considered on a regular basis by the best we can find, assuming no corrupt appointments and weavers of the winds getting promoted too far. I have forgotten what the idea was but I can assure you that it will have been considered in great detail. You couldn't have an idea that hasn't been considered a few thousand times.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 06:09 pm
@hawkeye10,
IDK? I am not familiar with the tweet/twitter shorthand.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 06:09 pm
@realjohnboy,
I dont know....
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 06:20 pm
@realjohnboy,
IDK? That's easy. I'm expert on acronyms. Idiot dickhead knickersniffer.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 06:47 pm
@Rockhead,
You noted earlier today that poor pay as much as the rich -- if they can buy anything. As members of the English department waited for everyone to collect for a recent meeting, we talked about the thrift shops where we buy our clothes. Just think how much the government can rake in on $5 sweaters and $10 skirts!
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 09:12 pm
@plainoldme,
If anyone cares to watch slightly more than an hour of a documentary, basically on television but with a subtext that examines the economy, "Class Dismissed," is excellent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVu6ojB-cMg

A new colleague who teaches sociology and African-American History found this and alerted me to it.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 06:24 am
There was an American academic called Lawrence Mead on Newsnight the other day spouting about making people work. Work or starve was the bottom line.

He didn't define work nor address the fact that free peoples reject such a notion. Nor did he address the fact that people on unearned income often don't work.

He also failed to consider that disgruntled workers might cause more inefficiency. Setting fire to the factory for example.

Are American academics all as mad as he seemed? At one point he was lecturing a room full of Liverpool single mums, all on benefit and who were making costumes for a pantomime and gossiping, on the joys of disciplined work (unspecified). One had to wonder what he had in mind with 2.5 million already unemployed and Merseyside being a disproportionatly significant contributor to the figure. Digging holes and filling them up again maybe. Or building new housing for them, and schools for their kids, and all the other stuff, in another part of the country.

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 07:25 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:



Are American academics all as mad as he seemed?




Just the liberal ones.
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 12:22 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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Spendi - you're not only more of a misogynist than me, you're a bigger cynic.


Misogynists are those who have a bitterness against the opposite sex due to having a bad experience with it. That's not me.

Some people talk realistically about the opposite sex in order to arm themselves against innate characteristics. The seek to arm themselves because they find the other sex so fascinating, adorable and irresistable just as someone trying to stop smoking will say things about tobacco, or other habit forming stuff, to help them resist it. Such people are often called misogynists by people who must not find the opposite sex to be so fascinating, adorable and irresistable and who are the real misogynists.

It's the world that taught me to be cynical. People who call others cynics are usually those who don't look at the world realistically and the insult, as it is usually intended to be, reassures them.

I never travel Finn. But thanks for the offer. I appreciate it.

And I detest London and its parasitical ways which get greedier every moment. It's over 200 miles from here and I'm old-fashioned enough to think that a long way.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 12:40 pm
@JPB,
Breaking News From Wisconsin---
Police are looking for Democrat Senators who have failed to show up for a vote on collective bargaining etc for public employees. A vote can not be taken unless one of them is present.
I swear I am not making this up.
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 12:58 pm
@realjohnboy,
HA!

Quote:
Senate Democrats were leaving Madison to avoid participating in the vote on Gov. Scott Walker's controversial budget repair bill, which has sparked four days of protests at the Capitol, an aide confirmed Thursday morning.

The aide spoke on condition of anonymity, because she was not authorized to speak on behalf of her boss. Legislative assistants answering the phones at the offices of Sen. Jon Erpenbach of Middleton, Sen. Mark Miller of Monona and Sen. Fred Risser of Madison all insisted they knew nothing about the walkout.

However, at 11:30 a.m., when the session began — 30 minutes late — a roll call revealed that most if not all 14 Senate Democrats were absent. At 11:35, Republican Senate President Mike Ellis announced a "call of the house" to send police to force errant Democrats to return to the chamber.

"The Senate is now under a call of the house, and we will try to find the members who decided not to come to work today," Ellis said as loud protesters sought to disrupt the session.

The Senate then adjourned, lacking enough of its 33 senators to act. Twenty are required and there are just 19 Republican Senators.More
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 01:06 pm
@JPB,
As I recall a similar situation happened in Texas a few years ago involving, I think, Republicans. They were eventually tracked down by bloodhounds at a luxurious Motel 6 in Oklahoma.
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 01:10 pm
@realjohnboy,
There's a "Discussion" tab at the link I posted above. It's an interesting read.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 01:28 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

As I recall a similar situation happened in Texas a few years ago involving, I think, Republicans. They were eventually tracked down by bloodhounds at a luxurious Motel 6 in Oklahoma.


The 'bloodhounds' were Federal ATF agents who were illegally ordered by Tom DeLay and the Bush administration to do so. It was outside of the scope of their office and a misuse of taxpayer funds. If I recall correctly, the Bush DoJ refused to investigate the matter.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 01:32 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
The irony of it all; in the US government workers go on strike, and in the Middle East, the people go on strike.
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