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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
Irishk
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 04:33 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:
Not paying your taxes is theft.


Almost 100,000 Federal employees haven't paid their taxes. Should they be put in jail? Or at least fired?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 04:37 pm
@Irishk,
Irishk wrote:

talk72000 wrote:
Not paying your taxes is theft.


Almost 100,000 Federal employees haven't paid their taxes. Should they be put in jail? Or at least fired?


Fired? I don't know about that. But they should face scrutiny from the IRS just like everyone else.

Cycloptichorn
Irishk
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 04:49 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
I think the IRS are the only Federal employees that can be fired for not paying their taxes.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 04:54 pm
@Irishk,
Irishk wrote:

I think the IRS are the only Federal employees that can be fired for not paying their taxes.


where'd that stat come from anyhoo?

Cycloptichorn
Irishk
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:00 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
An article I read in HuffPo a few months ago. It links to the original ABC report.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:04 pm
@Irishk,
Irishk wrote:

An article I read in HuffPo a few months ago. It links to the original ABC report.


The ABC article makes 2 good points:

1, that firing them would preclude their ability to pay the taxes they owe, and

2, we garnish 15% of the wages from those who owe back taxes and work for the Federal Gov't; that's 5% more than normal. So it isn't as if they do nothing.

Cycloptichorn
Irishk
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:12 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
According to Talk72000, they're thieves Smile
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:16 pm
@talk72000,
When the Supreme Court misinterprets the Constitution, the effect is to change it to something other than it meant to those who originally adopted it and subsequently amended it.

The Supreme Court was not granted the power by the Constitution to misinterpret what the Constitution meant to those who originally adopted it and subsequently amended it.

The USA was originally and is now a Constitutional Republic. That's how it was designed. It was designed that way to secure the liberty of Americans.

Do you want to make the security of the liberty of Americans insecure!?
talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:17 pm
@Irishk,
I was responding to Ican about taxation. There are many in the uber rich who have not paid their fair share of taxes. They are clever thieves in the same logic that Ican claim that the re-distribution of wealth is thievery.
Irishk
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:19 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:
There are many in the uber rich who have not paid their fair share of taxes.


Apparently, they aren't alone.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:19 pm
@ican711nm,
Who made the USA insecure? It was GWB with his war with Muslims and the financial meltdown.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:27 pm
@talk72000,
Quote:
Who made the USA insecure? It was GWB with his war with Muslims and the financial meltdown
It was multiple acts of terrorism on US soil which preceded the War on Terror, and our economic insecurity predated the melt down. It was driven by the loss of quality jobs, multiple boom and bust cycles (our system mis allocating resources) , and multiple examples of Corporate fraud (proof that our system is corrupt). The Great Recession is a continuation of a theme, not a new theme, and since we still have not fixed the primary problems no one has any faith in the future.
talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
It started with George Bush senior asleep in his watch and allowed Saddam invade Kuwait. from there it went down hill. Saddam was an ally of the United States. Bush I turned him into an enemy and GWB made it worse. The Bushes were in favor of free trade that led to job losses.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:31 pm
@talk72000,
As a matter of fact, the US supported Saddam over Iran during that war, and we provided Saddam with some armament.
talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 05:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yes, the problems start with both George Bushes.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 06:23 pm
The problem was greatly accelerated by Woodrow Wilson! GWB along with many of his predecessors merely continued that acceleration. BHO accelerated and is accelerating that acceleration.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 06:28 pm
@talk72000,
I think not paying your taxes is quite serious as it means that others have to shoulder the burden.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 06:32 pm
@ican711nm,
(Banging her head against the wall before setting her hands on the keyboard)

Look. Society is not static. Man is evolving intellectually and morally. We outlawed slavery. We had to amend the Constitution to do that. We dumped the Jim Crow laws. The Supreme Court had to step into the breach to clean up the mess.

Get it?
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 06:34 pm
@talk72000,
Because the bushes have been in bed with lots of dubious characters across the planet for generations.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2010 07:26 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:

The problem was greatly accelerated by Woodrow Wilson


Wilson. Wilson? Hmmm! Did he succeed 41?
 

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