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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 09:50 am
@cicerone imposter,
make sure to get rid of the tent city in pasadena . before you know it , people all over the world will become aware of it and wonder where "the american dream" is - not living in a tent , i hope !

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/national/Sacramento_OKs_Plan_to_Close_Tent_City__117277

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Sacramento OKs Plan to
Close 'Tent City'
- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Wednesday he would try to find state money to help city officials relocate about 150 people from a homeless encampment that put California's capital in the international spotlight.

The governor said he had promised to help Mayor Kevin Johnson deal with the city's homelessness "without really knowing yet the whole issue and what we can do," but told Johnson: "I will be 100 percent behind you."
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Media outlets from around the world visited the collection of tents and tarpaulins after it was featured on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" last month. Many inaccurately portrayed the camp as home to a thousand or more refugees of the recession, forced to live outdoors after losing their jobs and savings.

But homeless advocates said the encampment had been there for years and was home to about 150 people, most of whom are part of the city's chronic homeless population.
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Schwarzenegger said Wednesday that homelessness is a chronic problem nationwide and "no one really has found the sweet spot yet" for a permanent solution. He said he delivered a letter to President Barack Obama last week asking him to accelerate $180 million from the federal stimulus package to help address homelessness in California. Sacramento was expected to receive $2.4 million.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 08:46 am
The text on these is a little small -

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/johnson-graph-blog.jpg

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200905/imf-advice

What you see here is a major problem. The financial industry creates no products; it only manipulates money. Since the takeover of Reagan in the 80's, it has increasingly begun to suck up larger and larger amounts of US funds and produced profits based on pure manipulation of money. This is an unsustainable situation, and the ever-rising levels of pay in that industry are one of the major reasons why.

Cycloptichorn
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 08:53 am


The US economy would recover if PrezBO and his gang of tax cheats would get out of the way.

We really need to consider what should be done with the power the executive branch id grabbing for.
This power grab will do far more damage down the road than the over hyped economic issues worsened by the Obama administration.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 08:57 am
@H2O MAN,
It's funny how you talk about "power grab" after it's too late. You didn't make a peep when Bush ran his kingdom, but now you "think" Obama is in a power grab. Don't you understand anything about Americans? They voted for Obama and a democratic congress based on how much Bush and the GOP destroyed our country. Get used to it!
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:05 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

It's funny how you talk about "power grab" after it's too late.


It's not too late yet - this liberal power grab can be stopped.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:07 am
@cicerone imposter,
Here's an article from AP:

Quote:
GOP says Obama budget threatens future prosperity
By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer Will Lester, Associated Press Writer 56 mins ago

WASHINGTON " Attacking President Barack Obama's grand spending plans, a GOP lawmaker who almost joined the Democrat's Cabinet said Saturday the U.S. must live within its means or risk its tradition of passing a more prosperous country from one generation to the next.

"We believe you create prosperity by having an affordable government that pursues its responsibilities without excessive costs, taxes or debt," Sen. Judd Gregg said in the Republican radio and Internet address.

Gregg, who accepted the job as commerce secretary but then withdrew his nomination because of "irresolvable conflicts" with Obama's policies, has become one of the toughest critics of Obama's handling of the economy.

"In the next five years, President Obama's budget will double the national debt. In the next 10 years, it will triple the national debt," said Gregg, R-N.H.

"His budget assumes the deficit will average $1 trillion every year for the next 10 years and will add well over $9 trillion in new debts to our children's backs," said Gregg, the top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee. "He also is proposing the largest tax increase in history, much of it aimed at taxing small business people who have been, over the years, the best job creators in our economy."


The GOP has a huge problem; all they do is keep telling us the sky is falling, but they failed to rein in big government during Bush's eight years while giving the wealthy tax cuts that essentially transferred current debt to our children and grandchildren. "Now" they realize this huge debt will be transferred to our children and grandchildren.

Without our government's intervention in this financial crisis, the tax base will totally disappear in addition to most people's assets.

What the GOP fails to do is provide an alternative budget that will help recover from this recession, how much it'll cost, and when we can begin to see any improvement. Without their participation in solving this problem, crying "wolf" all the time gets very old.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:28 am
@cicerone imposter,
You appear to be merely repeating someone's talking points here. Given their numbers in the Congress the preparation of an alternate Republican budget would be a pointless exercise. Moreover, without the apparatus of the executive branch or even the majority staffs of the large committees in Congress, it would beyond their physical capabilities.

Given the disinclination of the Democrat majority to even read the fantastic legislation put before them before they vote to enact it, a Republican effort to study and critique this proposed legislation is indeed a public serviice.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:32 am



The Obama administration owns US businesses and the Obama administration
is owned by the Teamsters union... how do you think it's going to turn out?
parados
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:38 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
a Republican effort to study and critique this proposed legislation is indeed a public serviic


Critique has a meaning that I don't see happening in the Republican's whining. What analysis have they done? What thought out response have they written?

To even suggest that the Republicans have studied the proposal let alone given thought to their response puts argument to your claim that the GOP doesn't have to have any alternative.

If the Republican's have no alternative then how can they do any kind of a cost/benefit analysis of the Obama budget let alone offer any valid criticism.
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:40 am
@H2O MAN,
I guess based on your simplistic statement, it means when you vote Obama out in 4 years he gets to take all the US businesses with him.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:42 am
@parados,




I don't think Obama will finish his term.

BTW, what is the Obama administrations exit strategy??
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:49 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

You appear to be merely repeating someone's talking points here. Given their numbers in the Congress the preparation of an alternate Republican budget would be a pointless exercise. Moreover, without the apparatus of the executive branch or even the majority staffs of the large committees in Congress, it would beyond their physical capabilities.

Given the disinclination of the Democrat majority to even read the fantastic legislation put before them before they vote to enact it, a Republican effort to study and critique this proposed legislation is indeed a public serviice.


In that case, I would recommend the Republicans say exactly that, instead of promising to deliver one and completely failing.

Putting out documents with 'charts' of extreme simplicity and pictures of smiling, happy families; it lowers them to do such a thing, as I'm sure you realize.

Cycloptichorn
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 09:55 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:



Given the disinclination of the Democrat majority to even read the fantastic legislation put before them before
they vote to enact it, a Republican effort to study and critique this proposed legislation is indeed a public service.


Yes!

The Republicans need to step up and protect this nation because the Democrats are hell bent on destroying what's left of it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 10:24 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob, It's a pointless excercise, because the GOP budget they presented this past week has no numbers or timelines. It does have a beautiful blue cover and a total of 17-pages.

Who are you trying to kid?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 10:39 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Yes!

The Republicans need to step up and protect this nation because the Democrats are hell bent on destroying what's


Where ARE all them great ideas from the think tanks the right has spent so much money on??? The claim was that speaking as if the average American adults intellectual age is nine years old was a necessity in order to win elections, but that the GOP has brains stashed in the tanks which could be put to use if needed. Another GOP lie I suppose.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 11:09 am


PrezBO's administration is pushing this countries economy deeper into a recession.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 11:18 am
@H2O MAN,
Back up your statement with facts and figures.

Your personal opinion is worthless.
Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 11:42 am
@cicerone imposter,
It must have taken them at least two days to think that budget up, have it typed and printed. It's so simple (minded).
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 11:47 am
@cicerone imposter,


My opinions have great value, but your opinions continue to be of no value.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 01:36 pm
@H2O MAN,
Back up your statement(s). But, first of all, please cut and paste what I've said and challenge them by credible sources - outside your wrong-headed imaginations.
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