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Where is the US economy headed?

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:30 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

It is funny, parados, but it happens on both sides. Just a few weeks ago people were accusing the republicans of being obstructionists regarding the stimulus bill, when in fact they weren't obstructing anything.


Well, in the Senate, they were. Surely you understand how the Senate works?

Cycloptichorn
maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:31 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
No one fillibustered did they?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:31 pm
@maporsche,
No; they all just voted "no." (Most of them, anywhos.)
maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Right. But that wasn't enough to obstrust the bill from being passed.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:33 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

No one fillibustered did they?


Of course they did! Do you think the Dems were scrambling around for 60 votes for shits and giggles if it would pass with 50?

If you mean 'Reid didn't force them to stand there all night and read the phone book,' then no; they did not. But the Republicans did invoke the Cloture rule, which has become akin to a filibuster; it's the same thing the Dems did to try and block the Republican SC candidates.

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:51 pm
@maporsche,
True; with a democratic majority, a pass was almost a given.

It's funny how the republicans who said "no" still wants a piece of the pie.
Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:53 pm
@maporsche,
The Reps didn't filibuster because, having gained just three Reps, the Dems could stop any filibuster.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 05:43 pm
@spendius,
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It has has been said today, that if AIG is not bailed-out again the financial system will collapse doesn't that mean that AIG has us by the balls? The look on the face of the CEO suggested that is what he thinks.


I apologise for not phrasing that properly.

It was announced on the BBC news today that if AIG isn't bailed-out (again) the financial system will collapse. If that is true does it not mean that AIG has us by the balls. The look on the face of the CEO suggested that is what he thinks.

What the difference between AIG and Somali pirates?
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maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 05:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That's perphaps the funniest part. "I don't want this....but I'll take some if you're giving it".

spendius
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 05:58 pm
@maporsche,
Are we all in "head in soundproof bag" mode then?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 06:01 pm
@maporsche,
I'm afraid all politicians are made up from the same stuff; why we keep voting those dummies in to ruin our country is anyone's guess.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 06:04 pm
@spendius,
I'm not sure if I follow you here.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 06:13 pm
@maporsche,
You're kidding?? It's ABC stuff. If we daren't let AIG go under they have by the balls.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 06:17 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

You're kidding?? It's ABC stuff. If we daren't let AIG go under they have by the balls.


One of your rare moments of correctness, Spendius.

And we let them get this way. We did. We didn't regulate them to keep them from setting up a disastrous situation and we pretended their profits were not false ones.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 06:40 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
The whole SEC failed everybody; they were not only asleep at the switch, but even when people tried to warn them, they ignored it. The incompetence of Bush and his administration never ceases to amaze - the conservatives.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 06:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Look ci. --when somebody has you by the balls you don't start debating how it happened. That's a form of supine acceptance of the situation.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 06:52 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Look ci. --when somebody has you by the balls you don't start debating how it happened. That's a form of supine acceptance of the situation.


Well, there's always time for debate afterward.

But you're right. The best move is for us to kill them. By which I mean, nationalize AIG. Which we've already done. Remove their leaders, we've already done that too.

But AIG is propping up EVERY US bank and half of Europe right now. If they go, it all goes. It's a tough situation.

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 07:18 pm
@spendius,
Hey, spendi, the only time a woman grabbed me by the balls...was so long ago, it only seems like yesterday. LOL
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 09:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

True; with a democratic majority, a pass was almost a given.

It's funny how the republicans who said "no" still wants a piece of the pie.

Funny how political blackmail works, isn't it?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2009 09:55 pm
Anyone want to talk about how the markets are tanking again now that everyone has lost faith in Washington's ability to deal with the economic problems?????
No?????
 

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