Where is the US economy headed?

candidone1 wrote:

It never fails to amaze me that there is such a strong contingent of Amercans who complain about and criticize the socialist "nanny state" (which, by design, was intended to elevate the standard of living for people in the country) in America but wholeheartedly advocate the elevating of the standard of living of people in a foreign country.

Cy's point, if I understand him correctly, is that there are billions spent each week in Iraq to "liberate the Iraqis", yet there are 30-40 million Americans living at or below the poverty line who do not have a contingent in the government who would apporoach with the same zeal, their economic or social liberation.

I am in favor of elevating the standard of living here, but my solutions are different than cyclops. In Iraq, it is not our job to manage their affairs, but we do believe in helping them to help themselves. I am not happy with the situation there, but we made a decision and we should see it through, not cut and run at this point. Not only Iraq, I don't think this needs to be an argument over foreign aid money. They are two separate problems. In contrast, we can tell ourselves how to run this country, and I think education needs drastic reform as one piece of the puzzle of the economic future here.

It never ceases to amaze me, I point out the obvious, 2 + 2 = 4, and liberals react like I had committed the cardinal sin. Oh no, culture and parents have little input into the economy. It is George Bush's fault, NCLB and Iraq.

It never ceases to amaze me, I point out the obvious, 2 + 2 = 4, and liberals react like I had committed the cardinal sin. Oh no, culture and parents have little input into the economy. It is George Bush's fault, NCLB and Iraq.

Every gun that is fired, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

-- Dwight D. Eisenhower

bringing something back - and not sorry about it !

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Every gun that is fired, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

-- Dwight D. Eisenhower

i wonder if it might be considered appropriate to spend the money going into the iraq war on america's greatest asset instead - namely the nourishment and education of its young people ?
or is this too simple a question ?
hbg

I created alot of fuss here for suggesting that we are ignoring a huge problem, but I stick to what I said. Culture and education are big factors, perhaps not immediate, but long term. If our population is not well educated, sorry folks, we will not compete on the world economic stage. And another undeniable fact, culture, more specifically parental responsibility and situation of family plays a huge part in how well educated our children become. This has been bubbling under the surface for a long time, but it is time to start talking about this instead of sweeping it under the rug as if the problem does not exist, and then throw more money at a broken system. The low graduation rates in many large cities are telling us something important, and instead of sticking our heads in the sand, I would recommend something called "change."

I never said this was the only economic problem, but it is a problem that has long term effects, that are not minor.

okie

I created alot of fuss here for suggesting that we are ignoring a huge problem, but I stick to what I said. Culture and education are big factors, perhaps not immediate, but long term. If our population is not well educated, sorry folks, we will not compete on the world economic stage. And another undeniable fact, culture, more specifically parental responsibility and situation of family plays a huge part in how well educated our children become. This has been bubbling under the surface for a long time, but it is time to start talking about this instead of sweeping it under the rug as if the problem does not exist, and then throw more money at a broken system. The low graduation rates in many large cities are telling us something important, and instead of sticking our heads in the sand, I would recommend something called "change."

I never said this was the only economic problem, but it is a problem that has long term effects, that are not minor.

okie

You must be an Obama fan, then, as he has been telling crowds - especially heavily AA ones - all over America that they need to take some responsibility for their kid's education, and stop blaming the schools.

Cycloptichorn