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The eye and the mind

 
 
val
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 01:35 pm
twyvel

It is bad to be one "against" two very bright "opposers". You and Nobody. It is not a matter of knowing who wins. It's a matter of time: I can only answer to one of you. Sad

When I talk about the being I am talking about me. We can see "being" in two ways: "to be" and "the Being" - in german "zu sein" und "Das Sein".
I am in my experience. I see a sole (the fish) and I experience it as something very good to eat (I like fish and specially sole Laughing ). What makes me to have that kind of experience is my being. When I remember the sole I ate last week, I am Val-the-object, a given thing like the sole. But what made Val experience the sole as something very, very good to eat is the Sein - the Being of Val.

The problem is that when I say this, I loose the being of Val, and only remains the Val that is typing in his keyboard.

The portuguese poet Mário de Sá-Carneiro wrote (Sorry for the translation):
"I am not me or the other.
I am the bridge
between me and the other".

When we think of ourselves, we think about objects. When I say: I am using this keyboard, I am sick, I am talking about someone I can describe. But I am using this keyboard. And Sad I am sick.

Do you see what I mean? I see myself in the experience, but I am in the experience. The myself is the way my being manifests in the world.



AND, THIS IS FOR JL NOBODY
Please respect an older man, 48 years old with a huge influenza and fiever.
I AM NOT AN EXISTENCIALIST, I DON'T LIKE EXISTENCIALISM, AND IF EXISTENTIALISTS USED SOME OF HEIDEGGER'S CONCEPTS THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT HEIDEGGER SAID WHEN HE SAW SARTRE'S "L'être et le néant"? "THIS IS A PIECE OF ****".
Now, I am going to bed and take my medicine Smile
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Letty
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 03:16 pm
Val, I am so very sorry to hear that you are ill. Frankly, my friend. I believe that most of us are simply exploring. I can't speak for twyvel or JL., only myself.

Rest; be at peace; and above all. TAKE YOUR MEDICINE properly and on time.

Oh, yes. And drink lots of water.

with love from Auntie Letty
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 08:08 pm
I too wish you a quick recovery, Val.
Let me paraphrase your statement that "I see myself in the experience, but I am in the experience. The myself is the way my being manifests in the world."

"I see myself as experience. On-going ever changing experience IS my manifestation in the world." You might realize right now that sickness is not happening TO you; it IS you.
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