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Shep Smith: Journalists are not the enemy of the people

 
 
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 08:04 am
@mysteryman841,
Welcome back, mm. It's good to see you here again.
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mysteryman841
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 09:20 am
@camlok,
You don't have a profile.
If you don't mind, where are you from?
camlok
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 10:29 am
@mysteryman841,
You haven't addressed my valid criticism of Shep and all the other Sheps that inhabit the US propaganda media mill.
mysteryman841
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 11:55 am
@camlok,
I didn't know you expected a response.
From what I have read so far, and it isn't much, most of your criticism is aimed at everything American.

It seems to me that you are finding fault with the entire US, blaming it for all of the worlds ills.
Now I freely admit that some of that criticism is valid, but you seem to be blaming the US for things the US had nothing to do with.


Now I admit I havent read everything you have posted, i just returned, but with your apparent blind hatred of the US, nothing I say will change your mind.

So, I refused to take the bait.
You are free to spout your hatred, disdain, whatever you choose to call it, and I will continue to read and respond to people that I consider worth my time.
camlok
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 12:31 pm
@mysteryman841,
Quote:
It seems to me that you are finding fault with the entire US, blaming it for all of the worlds ills.


Always with the silly responses to deflect from the serious issues.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya just for starters. The first two based on the totality of lies about 911.

Since the US, under the neo cons had plans to invade more countries, then YES, the US can be blamed for the vast majority of the world's ills.

General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

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Now I freely admit that some of that criticism is valid, but you seem to be blaming the US for things the US had nothing to do with.


Don't be shy about pointing those things out.
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camlok
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 12:34 pm
@mysteryman841,
Quote:
I didn't know you expected a response.


Lame lame lame!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 03:26 pm
@mysteryman841,
mysteryman841 wrote:
From what I have read so far, and it isn't much, most of your criticism is aimed at everything American.

It seems to me that you are finding fault with the entire US, blaming it for all of the worlds ills.
Now I freely admit that some of that criticism is valid, but you seem to be blaming the US for things the US had nothing to do with.


Now I admit I havent read everything you have posted, i just returned, but with your apparent blind hatred of the US, nothing I say will change your mind.


Bingo . . . give that man a cee-gar.

JTT/Camlok is all hatred of the United States and Americans, all the time.
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 03:29 pm
By the way, JTT/Camlok is Canadian, and ignores all the crimes and enormities for which Canadian governments are responsible.
mysteryman841
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 03:30 pm
@Setanta,
That explains a lot!!
camlok
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 04:43 pm
@Setanta,
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Bingo . . . give that man a cee-gar.

JTT/Camlok is all hatred of the United States and Americans, all the time.


The coward Setanta does what he has always done best, snipe from the peanut gallery.

I don't hate the US or Americans. I hate what the US has done under a totally phony guise. Does Noam Chomsky hate United States and Americans. Such a ridiculous comment.
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camlok
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 04:46 pm
@Setanta,
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By the way, JTT/Camlok is Canadian, and ignores all the crimes and enormities for which Canadian governments are responsible.


An outright lie, Setanta. List them and I'll be right there agreeing with you, except for all the places where you go wrong on history.

Another ridiculous comment. Smoke and mirrors, all meant to disguise the myriad US war crimes and terrorism.

What of the planned Iraqi genocide, Set the grand historian?
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camlok
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 04:47 pm
@mysteryman841,
It explains squat, mm. It can't explain away the US planned Iraqi genocide which you and Set are studiously avoiding.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 04:49 pm
@Setanta,
Looks like a troll, acts like a troll....
camlok
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 04:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That's not a very nice thing to say about Setanta, CI. And you definitely should not be finger pointing. You, like Setanta and MM avoid all the tough issues just like children do. You badly abuse the idea of free speech because there are responsibilities that come with that.

Except for the Max Exclusion where you can opt out of the truth and lie lie lie. While this option is used by many it is particularly popular among Americans.
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mysteryman841
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 05:43 pm
@camlok,
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It can't explain away the US planned Iraqi genocide which you and Set are studiously avoiding.
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I'm not avoiding anything.
You claim that a genocide was planned.
So,prove it.
Its up to you to prove your claim, until you do there is nothing to avoid.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 05:52 pm
@mysteryman841,
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5690032
OPINION
U.S.-Iraqi Relations and the Kurdish Genocide

August 22, 20061:00 PM ET
Heard on Day to Day
Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein faces charges of genocide for allegedly ordering attacks on Kurdish population centers in northern Iraq in the late 1980s, in some cases using poison gas to wipe out entire villages.

Peter Galbraith, the former U.S. ambassador to Croatia and an expert on Kurdish politics, talks with Madeleine Brand about the trial and America's relationship with the Hussein regime.

After reports of the killings surfaced, the Reagan administration refused to back tough sanctions against Iraq.
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camlok
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 06:10 pm
@mysteryman841,
Quote:
I'm not avoiding anything.
You claim that a genocide was planned.
So,prove it.
Its up to you to prove your claim, until you do there is nothing to avoid.


This is an excellent example of how the complicit in war crimes and genocide US media helps to hide US evil.

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Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead Iraqi Children was "worth it" wins Medal of Freedom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE


The US gives medals to their war criminals.

You have avoided everything, just as maporsche, CI, Setanta, ... have done.

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US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children
Statement by Professor Francis Boyle, Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal

Approximately 3.3 million Iraqis, including 750,000 children, were “exterminated” by economic sanctions and/or illegal wars conducted by the U.S. and Great Britain between 1990 and 2012, an eminent international legal authority says.

The slaughter fits the classic definition of Genocide Convention Article II of, “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part,” says Francis Boyle, professor of international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign, and who in 1991 filed a class-action complaint with the UN against President George H.W. Bush.

The U.S. and U.K. “obstinately insisted” that their sanctions remain in place until after the “illegal” Gulf War II aggression perpetrated by President George W. Bush and UK’s Tony Blair in March, 2003, “not with a view to easing the over decade-long suffering of the Iraqi people and children” but “to better facilitate the U.S./U.K. unsupervised looting and plundering of the Iraqi economy and oil fields in violation of the international laws of war as well as to the grave detriment of the Iraqi people,” Boyle said.
In an address last Nov. 22 to The International Conference on War-affected Children in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Boyle tallied the death toll on Iraq by U.S.-U.K. actions as follows:

# The slaughter of 200,000 Iraqis by President Bush in his illegal 1991 Gulf War I.

# The deaths of 1.4 million Iraqis as a result of the illegal 2003 war of aggression ordered by President Bush Jr. and Prime Minister Blair.

# The deaths of 1.7 million Iraqis “as a direct result” of the genocidal sanctions.

...

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-2012-killed-3-3-million-including-750000-children/5314461

mysteryman841
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 06:19 pm
@camlok,
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Wrong!!!
Kuwait was an ally, they were attacked, we responded.
That was and is not illegal, and it never has been.
camlok
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 06:23 pm
@mysteryman841,
Take off your blinders, mm, you are making a right fool of yourself. The issue isn't Bush 1's illegal Kuwaiti war, it is the USA's planned genocide that saw half a million Iraqi children slaughtered.

So typical of Americans absolutely zero compassion!!!

US media "covered" it and then dropped it like they always do. Imagine, giving a medal to a POS like Albright, and all her war criminal friends of the Clinton administration.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2018 07:29 pm
@mysteryman841,
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That explains a lot!!

I remember that is the Howard Zinn disciple.
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