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Will You Taste Some Irishness? IV (2005)

 
 
Piffka
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 10:52 am
Galway Kinnell

This author is not from Ireland, but certainly has an Irish name & flavor to his poems. I thought that Jjorge may particularly enjoy this poem, so I'm not waiting 'til next year. This has just been published in the New Yorker magazine.


It All Comes Back

We placed the cake, with its four candles
poking out of thick soft frosting, on the seat
of his chair at the head of the table
for just a moment, while we unfolded and spread
Spanish cloth over Vermont maple.

Suddenly he stepped from the group
of schoolmates and parents and family friends
and ran to the table, and just as someone cried
No, no! Don't sit! he sat on his chair and his cake,
and the room broke into groans and guffaws.

Actually it was pretty funny, we all
started yelping our heads off, and actually
it wasn't in the least funny. He ran to me,
and I picked him up but I was still laughing,
and in indignant fury he jabbed his thumbs

into the corners of my mouth, grasped
my cheeks, and yanked -- he was so muscled
and so outraged I felt as if he might rip
my whole face off, and then I realized
that was exactly what he was trying to do.

It came to me: I was one of his keepers,
his birth and the birth of his sister
had put me on earth a second time,
with the duty this time to protect them
and to help them to love themselves,

and yet here I was, locked in solidarity
with these adults against my own child,
hee-hawing away, without once wondering
if we weren't, underneath, all of us, striking back,
too late, at our parents for humiliating us.

I gulped down my laughter and held him and
apologized and commiserated and explained and then
things were right again, but to this day it remains
loose, this face, seat of superior smiles,
on the bones, from that hard yanking.

Shall I publish this anecdote from the past
and risk embarassing him? I like it
that he fought back, but what's the good,
now he's thirty-six, in telling the tale
of his mortification when he was four?

Let him decide -- I'll give him three choices.
He can scratch his slapdash checkmark,
whose rakish hook reminds me
of his old high-school hockey stick,
in whichever box applies:

__Tear it up. __Don't publish it but give me a copy.
__O.K. publish it on the off chance that somewhere someone survives
of those said to die miserably every day
for lack of the small clarifications sometimes found in poems.


-- Galway Kinnell
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jjorge
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 01:22 pm
Thanks Pif! I like it a lot. I'm glad you didn't wait.




P.S.

Did you notice he was was born in Providence, Rhode Island?
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2005 02:00 pm
Yes... I noticed that right off. Thought you'd like it!

I love this...

somewhere someone survives
of those said to die miserably every day
for lack of the small clarifications sometimes found in poems
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jjorge
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 09:15 am
Piffka wrote:
Yes... I noticed that right off. Thought you'd like it!

I love this...

somewhere someone survives
of those said to die miserably every day
for lack of the small clarifications sometimes found in poems





Yes, I also liked those lines in particular.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 09:29 am
Makes you want to keep writing poetry, doesn't it?

(It should.)
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jjorge
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 11:35 am
Hmmm...is that a gentle rebuke Pif? If so, I deserve it. I haven't made enough time for writing poems lately. But, I have scratched out a couple of 'something-or-others':


http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50267&highlight=

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50766&highlight=
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 12:01 pm
Just a nudge... I like both of those new ones very much. I think your poems get better and better. You have such an honest way with your poetry -- it is plaintive yet amused. I think that your personality comes through strong and clear and eminently good and appreciative, but with a bemused skepticism. Does that sound right?

Your fan.
Piff

I hope you are doing okay and the new house is very pleasing to you.
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AngeliqueEast
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2005 01:16 pm
Irish Poetry Forms
I really enjoyed this thread very much! Thank you all. I'm not Irish, but I'm an Irish poetry fan.

To jjorge,and anyone else that may wish to answer this question. Are any of the Irish poems written here by the members in an Irish form? Like in the ancient Irish forms here:

http://www.frenzieddaddy.com/irishpoe.html?from=mystile

I wrote one in Deibhidhe (jay-vée) minus the Alliteration some time ago and had fun doing it.

AE
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mikey
 
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Reply Sat 4 Mar, 2006 06:45 pm
13 days and counting....
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jjorge
 
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Reply Sat 4 Mar, 2006 10:27 pm
COMING FRIDAY MARCH 10 2006
---------------------------------------

'WILL YOU TASTE SOME IRISHNESS V 2006'
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phoney
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 07:52 am
I wish the Irish wouldn't put their flags in the washing machine at too high a temperature. At rugby, football and other gatherings the variation in the orange from deep orange to anaemic yellow is bizarre.
Some Irish when asked what the colours of the flag are, say, "green, white and gold"

The Office of the Taoiseach.gov.ie states:
Often different shades of yellow instead of orange are seen at civilian fuctions. This misrepresentation of the National Flag should be discouraged.
What has all this got to do with Irish poetry! Eh....

Nil aon tintean mar do thintean fein.

Did any of your ancestors go through Ellis Island?
I found a couple.
http://www.ellisisland.org
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mikey
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 10:55 am
'Nil aon tintean mar do thintean fein.'

true, there's no place like home or by your own fire.

this is supposed to be a 'happy' thread.

the political forum is here:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/ask-about21.html

Slán agus Beannacht
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 02:42 pm
jjorge--

March 10? I'll be waiting for the lovely link, then.
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margo
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 08:04 pm
great. jjorge!
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jjorge
 
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Reply Fri 10 Mar, 2006 09:25 am
'Will You Taste Some Irishness' (2006) has begun:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=70842&highlight=
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blogGreen88
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 01:23 am
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