@ehBeth,
I am ignoring the title. I have a daughter I am raising to be ready for a career engineering (obviously she can choose whatever life she wants, but she can code in Java better than many college students).
I am working to give my daughter the skills that she will need to excel should she choose to be in engineering.
The basic problem in these discussions is that the ultimate goal is unclear.
- You can work to make the number of men and women in any position equal.
- Or, you can work to make the system fair, providing equal
opportunity for men and woman.
These are not the same thing, in fact sometimes they are at odds with each other.
Programming contests are judged by algorithms. Humans don't do the judging; there is an rubric that awards a set number of points for each of the judged skills. Gender has nothing to do with the score... and yet male programmers score significantly better than females in these contests. People who argue that the contests are "unfair" because they favor "male" skills over female skills are shooting themselves in the foot. These contests are fair in the sense that everyone is judged the same.
Chess tournaments are also fair. As are Poker tournaments. Neither of these are balanced in terms of gender.
And on the other side, prison populations are dominated by men. Men are incarcerated at a far greater rate than women.... and no one seems to complain.
I want my daughter (as my sons) to equal opportunity. I am teaching her to confident, to be aggressive. I teach her to negotiate for salary and position and to promote herself. She seems to have no trouble doing this (and I am not worried). I also want my daughter to have equal opportunity...
And that is the complexity... it is clear that there are ways that opportunity still isn't equal for women. That needs to be addressed. But it is not at all clear that if opportunity were equal that the numbers would be balanced.
Focusing on numbers, rather than on equal opportunity means we focus on political ideology rather than on understanding . And that is reason that any real discussion on this topic is so difficult.