@ gungasnake
I believe the muslim population in France is around 7 %,
not enough for a take over, don't you think?
Despite what happened in Outreau, every pedophilia case
should be considered as such, and I agree with cicerone,
the trial needs to be conducted behind closed doors.
I don't understand the French at all. I understand a little of the German and Spanish if they don't talk too fast.
I hardly understand how this kind of things can happen in this country.
After Outreau, justice understood that the trial must be conducted otherwise.
This time, no kids in court, only their records at the time. And trial behind closed doors.
The case is somehow different from Outreau. Three thirds of the accused made <consents?>
You mean they confessed to the crimes?
[If this had happened in Germany, it would be dealt with at a Junevile Court (because of the children/under 18's), and trials there are per se non-public trials.]
Walter, is there a pedophile movement in Germany, as it is
prevalent now in France, Belgium, England, or the US?
Although I don't hope so, I'm rather sure it is - they've found last week children porn again a some dozen computers. (Well, that's IMHO another aspect of the problem.)
What do you mean with "another aspect"?
That child pornography is so readily available on the internet?
Seems, people exchange frequently year-old pics via email, cds etc(and 'yes', child pornography is quite easily to get on the web).
I physically get nauseated reading this. How callous can
one be with his own flesh and blood
Right, but what happened that they became such? Why did they act so?
That's no excuse Walter. The last paragraph states,
that the father of the 2 little girls was abused himself
as a child. This indeed is a tragic event in his life, but
if anything, he should know how it feels to be molested
and try to protect his daughters instead of commiting
the same crimes he was a victim of as a child.
An adult always has a choice, a child doesn't. No mercy
from my side.
My remark wasn't thought at all to be an excuse, CJ!
[Those who abuse now, have been quite often abused victims as well. My questions above were more going in direction: what went wrong with a society, where such happens?]
Walter, You ask questions that are almost impossible to answer. "What went wrong" applies to more than child molestation/abuse of humanity. That the US was/is responsible for the killing of more than 15,000 women and children in Iraq without a blink of an eye disturbs me as much or more. And we all know about the holocaust, the inquisition, Mao, North Korea, etc., etc., etc....
And I'd be amiss if I didn't include the "Rape of Nanking" by the Japanese.
Sorry Walter, I missunderstood then. What went wrong with
society?
Actually, the case in France is somewhat unusual, as
pedophiles are mostly highly educated and not seldom
the pillars of the very same society, we're part of.
Sure, we as a society have to find ways, that the poor
are not exploited to the extend that they're selling their
children in order to gain the necessities to survive.
This seemed to be the problem in France as the accused
are all below poverty levels, it is a problem in Mexico and
other South American nations as well as in Africa.
As long as it is enticing for those poor souls to sell their
children in exchange for money or goods, we haven't
addressed the problem.