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Why Don't We Care About African Genocide?

 
 
au1929
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 11:41 am
McG
Is it your perception that we attack everyone that we do not agree with and feel is a threat.
When would you have us attack Iran and No. Korea?In fact since Russia is a threat by virtue of Iran with nuclear capability we should attack then as well. And I would suppose that China is ripe for Invasion because of their human rights violations.
The question in light of the above why did we go after Iraq. Because that is what bullies do the beat up on the weak and defenseless. Our president exhibits all the qualities of a bully. .
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 11:42 am
A sick bully at that!

Edited with the following excerpt from a post in another forum.
" I argue the war in Iraq is not justified by the reasons given for war, its poor conduct, and re-igniting one of the worst elements of past American history- the paternalistic, racist White Man's Burden, noxious progeny of the Manifest Destiny ideal to justify American continental imperialism. I argue the basis of this policy, worse than merely being racist, is delusional- clinically psychotic, guided and suckled by an utter break from reality."
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 12:07 pm
Boy, au, you and C.I. sure read a lot into what I don't say.

First C.I. inaccurratly accuses me of making false justifications for the war in Iraq, now you accuse me, falsely, of wanting to America to attack everyone?

Perhaps you should examine what I say instead of what you think I say.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 12:22 pm
Quote, "It was much better when Saddam was killing them, right au? We could just ignore it and pretend it wasn't really happening. Just like Rowanda, like the UN is now doing about Sudan."

Who said "it was much better when Saddam was killing them...?" The preemptive attack on Iraq was justified on the basis of WMDs and Saddam's connection to al Qaida; NOT, NOT, NOT because Saddam was killing his own people.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 12:31 pm
Exactly. I didn't suggest otherwise.

My reply was directly aimed at au when he said;
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Fight if we must when our cause it is just. IMO opinion the invasion of Iraq was unnecessary, unjustified and premature. I am of the opinion that the blood of every person American or Iraqi killed or wounded drips from the hands of Mr. Bush. I can only hope that truth haunts his dreams.


The war in Iraq, as you have pointed out, was tp rid Iraq of WMDs and bring Iraq under its obligations to the UN.

Blaiming Bush for the failures of the UN is neither fair, nor acceptable to me. Mor eblood has been spilled in iraq by Saddam than ever will as a result of our invasion and liberation.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 12:36 pm
So, what gave the US the god-given right to impose our will on other soveriegn nations? What makes you think the US has the wherewithal to invade and bring liberation to all the countries with political problems>?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 12:38 pm
If you can, get this through your head; we are closing schools and hospitals in our own country while we spend four to five billion dollars every month in Iraq - not to mention the loss of our loved ones. How many more countries do you think we must invade to bring them political justice?
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 12:51 pm
McG
Pick a reason for the invasion of Iraq. Was it the trumped up charge that Iraq had WMD's and could launch them in what was it 45 minutes? Or was it because Iraq was in collusion with AlQaeda? Or because of Saddam's treatment of his people?
To this day I have not been able to understand what the real reason for our attack upon a sovereign nation. After all the reasons coming out of the White House are unclear. Could it be that the bully wanted to show he was king of the hill.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 12:58 pm
Saddam was believed to be in breach of multiple UNSC resolutions and had been stockpiling WMDs that could fall into the hands of people prepared to use them against the US or US interests.

Is that a good enough justification for you?

Everything that has been a result of that is just icing on the cake. We now have a blooming democracy, a country free from the oppression of Saddam Hussein.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 01:06 pm
Israel is also in breach of many UNSC resolutions. They also have stockpiles of WMDs.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 01:10 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Israel is also in breach of many UNSC resolutions. They also have stockpiles of WMDs.


Rolling Eyes
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 01:16 pm
MgC wrote
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Saddam was believed to be in breach of multiple UNSC resolutions and had been stockpiling WMDs that could fall into the hands of people prepared to use them against the US or US interests


The only one that believed that and I do not think for one minute that they did was the group of dunderheads in the White House. The inspectors were telling them and were in the process of proving them wrong. However, the smart asses including our present secretary of state "knew" better. We now are stuck with the thousands of dead and wounded and a bill that is choking us and will be left, as a legacy for our children and grandchildren to pay. It also has earned us the enmity of the world community. All because they "knew".
I wonder if Bush now realizes the enormity of his error.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 01:18 pm
au, My brother, a politician in California, told us that politicians never admit mistakes.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 01:22 pm
C.I.
Same as religious fanatics. Could there be a connection. :wink:
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 01:26 pm
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religious fanatics

now that is a redundancy of the highest order.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 01:44 pm
.wha?.... Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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old europe
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 04:42 pm
McGentrix wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Israel is also in breach of many UNSC resolutions. They also have stockpiles of WMDs.


Rolling Eyes


What an eloquent answer, McG!!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 04:44 pm
McG is full of eloquence.
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old europe
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 04:46 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
McG is full of eloquence.


McG is full of something. Dare I call it eloquence? I do not know.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 28 Feb, 2005 05:02 pm
In McGentrix's case, eloquence is a four letter word.
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