Liberals - Practice Conservative Argument Techniques

You should stop watching Fox News.

Nope. I got it.

Double secret "nigger' repeating indictment on you.

<runs real fast so she can't tag me back.>

Lash wrote:

The shift has been dramatic nationally, toward the conservatives. Liberal views are still present--but they are no longer the sole voice in this country. Now, that they have someone calling them on their bullshit, the spotlight they have so hypocritically been shining on conservatives has been turned around and is in their faces.

Black Americans are hearing reports now that they never would have heard under the liberal saturated press.

Hear me now and believe me later: The liberals will not be able to get away with their double standard any longer.

Blacks will be leaving the Dems over this, KKK Byrd, and other such racial atrocities.

Come on home to the party of Lincoln, baybees! Dean thinks the only reason you belong in a political meeting is if you're the hired help. Condi and Colin aren't mopping the floor---well, they ARE mopping up the Dems...

Damn. Smells like VICTORY!

Looks like Lash has been right on this all along

Quote:

Alarm bells rang through the Democratic Party last week when political strategist Donna Brazile warned of an aggressive new drive by Republicans to lure more black voters.

The Democrats' most-respected minority outreach tactician warned her party at the beginning of the 2004 election cycle not to "take African-American voters for granted." Polls showed an increase in younger black voters registering as independents, not as Democrats. Many were drawn to President Bush's campaign message of an "ownership society" and his faith-based initiatives to help the needy.

http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20050309-092931-3265r.htm

Read the rest and be very afraid

Wooo-hoo!!!

Hell. Sounds like I wrote it.

Blacks, used and excused. Now, GOP enthused!!!

How about Black-American? Or perhaps beige-Americans for the asian brethren? I've always liked caucasion-American. Cracker-American is funny though...

Lash wrote:

Wooo-hoo!!!

Hell. Sounds like I wrote it.

Blacks, used and excused. Now, GOP enthused!!!

Have any of you noticed that the areas with the largest concentrations of black people are Dem controlled and have been for year? The funny thing is that they haven't done anything to help the people of these cities. Instead they blame the Rep for the problems of the black man and continue to keep them in mental segregation. The use of the term "African-American" is meant to place black people at a distance of being real Americans. If this wasn't so then why does everyone insist on using the term? Very very very few blacks today are African anymore. They are about as African as I am Italian and I'm sure I much closer to being a descendent of my heritage then they are, and I would never call myself anything other then an American. Can't we drop the hyphen and just consider everyone American? I don't think the Dems will allow that to happen especially the "black leadership" of today. People like Farrakhan, Jackson and Sharpton want to be special and want to keep a level of segregation alive, it keeps them in business.

I agree with you completely.

That's why I don't use the term "African-American". It's anti-black American in my view. It just denotes an otherness--or a barrier to belonging. Its false.

Plus, it's bullshit.

You have to embrace who you are. They went through colored, Negro, black, African-American... Once they are happy with who they are--and stop hearing all this crap from those who want to keep them mad and separated--they won't need to keep redefining themselves. Words won't matter so much. They'll just be Americans.

And they accuse others of being racist. It's mind-boggling.

Cycloptichorn

You should stop watching Fox News.

I vote for just plain old "Americans" for everybody. As long as we court the womens vote, the gay vote, the black vote, the Hispanic vote, etc. there will never be true equality because everybody is seen as somehow different and inferior because they especially 'need' something from government.

Here in an interview, the right wing news media admits to openly lying and, in fact they boast about how well they do it, how proficient they have become at deception, how their "brownshirting" has paid big dividends.

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http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript351_full.html

REPORTER: Conservative broadcaster Sean Hannity brought some friends to Pensacola to rally Republicans.

MOYERS: What do you make of the fact that Sean Hannity went barnstorming for the Bush-Cheney ticket the weekend before the election?

VIGUERIE: I just wish he could have done a little bit more. I thought it was just great. And we're not gonna play, Bill, by the liberal establishment's rules. They say, "This is acceptable and this is not acceptable."

Those days are gone and gone forever.


{For the right wing, this man thinks the days of honesty are gone forever.}
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And listen to Sean Hannity:

HANNITY [10/29/04]: Why would Osama bin Laden, who's been quiet for so long, come out and virtually try and influence the election today in favor of John Kerry by attacking the president the way he did?

MOYERS: Do you think what Sean Hannity said is fair?

VIGUERIE: Oh, absolutely.

MOYERS: But there's no fact to back that up. There's no effort to substantiate that with documentation.

VIGUERIE: That's what journalism is. It's just all opinion. Just opinion.

MOYERS: So says Richard Viguerie, a founding father of the modern conservative movement and still one of its most powerful figures. In this new book, Viguerie tells the story of how over the past 40 years the right came to dominate American politics by creating alternative and new media, everything from computerized direct mail to Fox News.

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{fair and balanced???? We report, you decide??????}

How could anyone read this {the righties probably won't, of course} and even think to defend Faux "news" and the sordid lies of the republican party?



"I've squandered my resistance for a pocketful of mumbles, such are promises
All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest, hmmmm"

The Boxer - Simon & Garfunkle

The exchange between Moyers and Viguerie does beautifully illustrate a liberal debate technique however--should be posted on your thread McG.

Here you have Moyers, offering no documentation to support his own point of view, criticizing Hannity for having no documentation for his point of view. And there is no discussion of any kind as to whether Hannity's take on it is even reasonable. Nooooo......rather Hannity is bashed for making the observation; for asking the question.

Liberal technique: If the question is embarrasing or requires any compromising of liberal mindset, attack the question and/or the person asking it.

Conservative technique: Point out the liberal technique.