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Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 12:35 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Details?
You might ask those from the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC) watchdog or directly from the Counter Terrorism Command whose officers arrested the suspect. (But I think that such will be a one-sided interview.)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 01:14 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

coldjoint wrote:
Details?


Doesn't he understand what the links are for? I mean there's thick and then there's whatever the **** he's supposed to be.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 05:01 pm
@izzythepush,
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Doesn't he understand what the links are for?

Do you understand I am right here? How many killed? This is blown out of proportion for the obvious reason of a cultural surrender. The bad guy cannot be Islam when everyone knows damn well it is. Especially the young girls gang -raped by Islamics. You are a nation of cowards.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 6 Mar, 2020 05:13 am
Finally, they do it in the USA as well:
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A sweep of arrests of a neo-Nazi group in the US has dealt a major blow to an organization associated with at least five murders and raised questions as to whether the extreme far-right movement the group is at the center of has been largely undone by pressure from law enforcement, journalists and anti-fascist activists.

Sweep of arrests hits US neo-Nazi group connected to five murders
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According to court documents, the men allegedly cooperated in specifically targeting journalists with lurid violent threats, bearing slogans like “These people have names and addresses”, and “You have been visited by your local Nazis”. The plan was in response to reports on the group in late 2018 in outlets including the Seattle Times.

The men have been charged with conspiracy, stalking, and postal offenses.

Already, six members of Atomwaffen have been convicted since 2018 on charges including firearms offenses, planning terrorist attacks, hate crimes, and murder.


izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 6 Mar, 2020 06:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Probably Imams deciding everything over there too, we all know Trump takes his orders direct from the Saudis.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Mar, 2020 11:42 am
@izzythepush,
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Trump takes his orders direct from the Saudis.

Then the Saudis must take their orders from Putin, right?
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Mar, 2020 01:25 pm
Looks like Islam already rules the UK. Why don't you just surrender completely and save time?

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A CONSERVATIVE councillor from Bolton has been suspended as the party looks into allegations of Islamophobia.

Cllr Derek Bullock, who was elected in Hulton last year, has been suspended from the Tories pending further investigation.

The suspension is a neutral act for an investigation to take place and does not imply any wrong doing.

It comes after anti-fascism advocacy group HOPE Not Hate called on the Conservative Party to take "decisive steps" to deal with its Islamophobia "crisis".

Cllr Bullock was named on a list of councillors, activists and members accused of sharing anti-Muslim content online.

He allegedly posted an article on social media from JihadiWatch about former party chairman Sayeeda Warsi commenting, "she's been a cuckoo in the nest."

Cllr Bullock also shared a Daily Mail article about the number of Muslim children in England and Wales doubling over a decade, adding: "the clock is ticking."

Council leader David Greenhalgh said: “All those found to be party members have been suspended immediately, pending investigation. The swift action we take on not just anti-Muslim discrimination, but discrimination of any kind is testament to the seriousness with which we take these issues.”

How seriously intimidated you are is more truthful.
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/18281552.derek-bullock-investigated-allegations-islamophobia/
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 6 Mar, 2020 01:35 pm
Here is another bright idea. You can feel the stupidity and fear.

Nothing about those nasty right wingers.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2020 06:40 am
Several members of the Germany's party AfD's Wing, including the state of Thuringia's regional party leader Björn Höcke, are now identified as "far-right extremists".
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Germany's domestic security agency will run surveillance on the far-right Alternative for Germany's (AfD) most nationalistic group, the agency's president announced on Thursday.

The step designates the AfD group known as the "Wing ("Flügel") as a far-right extremist group warranting observation from security forces.

The group in the AfD was identified as "suspicious" by the agency in January 2019 and was already being monitored, along with the far-right party's youth branch.
DW
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2020 08:51 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Since the "shooting association" [the translation of the term "Bruderschaft"
varies widely] in my native tow, the St.-Sebastianus-Schützenbruderschaft Geseke 1412, is with over two thousand members and its first mention in 1412 one of the oldest and largest German shooting fraternities, since I'm still a member there and my late father wrote a lot about the history of it, I'm very delighted about the below made statements:
German gun clubs fending off the far-right AfD
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With flyers and suspicious donations, the far-right AfD has been trying to make inroads into Germany's traditional shooting clubs. One association is taking a stand, and fighting to defend their vision of "home."
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The club in Bonn is part of the Association of Historic German Shooting Fraternities (BHDS) — a Catholic organization which includes 1,300 shooting clubs located primarily in western Germany. Clubs like these are mainstays in many German towns, often responsible for organizing local festivals and shooting competitions.

Tradition and history are the bones of the association — that's why members are particularly proud of BHDS motto: "Für Glaube, Sitte und Heimat" or "For faith, custom and homeland."

But this motto — particularly the "homeland" part — is under threat of appropriation from the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

Emil Vogt, the head of the BHDS, which has some 400,000 members, has been issuing warnings for months about the AfD's attempts to infiltrate shooting clubs.

During the association's annual members' meeting on March 8, Vogt strongly criticized the AfD's "appropriation attempts" and distanced the Catholic organization from the far-right party.

"For our association, I stand for political neutrality and would like to prevent that even the impression arises that there is a close relationship between the shooting clubs and the AfD," Vogt told DW in a telephone interview.

In recent weeks, the BHDS flagged suspicious donation offers from people living in German states where there aren't any local BHDS local club chapters, Vogt told DW.

After doing some digging, the association discovered that the donation stemmed from a former AfD campaign manager, who said that he wanted to support the group's charity work with hospice and palliative care — but immediately asked if the group issues donation receipts.

"Of course we cut off contact," Vogt says, adding that the donation was a likely attempt by the AfD to do damage to the marksman association's reputation, which has repeatedly spoken out against the far-right party.

"The AfD could then say: 'See? If it's about money, then they will gladly accept our donations.'"

He added that the amount of money that was offered was a "higher amount of money that is not in the normal range" of their usual donations.

At the end of last year, the BHDS was sent a flyer from the AfD criticizing changes to Germany's gun control laws. In the flyer, the AfD offered to serve as a political lobbying group on behalf of shooting clubs and hunting associations. DW reached out to the AfD for comment, but has yet to receive a response.
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The gun clubs are particularly passionate about protecting the concept of Heimat from appropriation by the far-right.

The term is notoriously difficult to translate, but roughly amounts to a combination of home, homeland, a sense of belonging and regional or local identity. For decades, the word was considered taboo in German society due to its use by the Nazis.

With the rise of far-right populism — and attempts by other parties to view the term more positively to counteract the AfD — Heimat has seen a resurgence in German politics.

"Our concept of Heimat is much broader than the AfD's concept of Heimat," Vogt says. "Home is not defined by origin, nationality, skin color or religion."

At the clubhouse in Bonn, members across the room chimed in with their own definitions of the term, ranging from: "Wherever your feet are under the table" to "Where you feel comfortable."

Spilles smiles and says: "You just have to join a shooting club — then you'll know what Heimat is. Because Heimat is wherever you belong."

Klaus Opitz, who has been a member of the club for 20 years, says that the AfD is attempting to use the term to shut out people rather than bring them in.

"Everybody associates something positive with Heimat. No matter where you are in the world," Opitz emphasizes. "It's a positive term and if you use it and say: 'Yes we want to protect the homeland' or 'We are being overrun by foreigners' and so on — this is of course polemic."

The flyers and donations to the shooting association are part of a larger AfD strategy to make the far-right party more palatable for those more in the middle of the political spectrum — and an attempt to align themselves with in Germany's civil society.

Last year, AfD party leaders reportedly signed off on an internal strategy paper outlining plans to firmly establish the party as a regular fixture in German politics.

According to media reports, the paper specifically called on members to reach out to traditional organizations like hunting and sport shooting associations as well as gun clubs. These clubs tend to lean conservative, making it possibly easier to convince members to listen to the far-right's platform.

"The strategy is part of a march to the middle — not to make themselves more moderate, but to pull the center to the right," Johannes Hillje, a political and communications consultant, wrote in Der Tagespiegel newspaper in November when the paper was revealed.

Following recent right-wing extremist attacks in Germany, particularly the racist shooting in Hanau, in which a shooter killed nine people and his mother, concerns are high about the possibility of the far-right infiltrating gun clubs.

"Our task as a Christian association is therefore to clearly stand up to a party that has nothing to do with Christian values of loving your neighbor, tolerance and respect," Vogt told DW.

"Resistance against the far-right must come from society — and we're sending a clear signal."



Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2020 05:17 am
@Walter Hinteler,

German police raid sites linked to banned far-right group

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Raids target subgroup of Citizens of the Reich a month after Hanau shootings

German police have raided sites across the country linked to a banned far-right group, weeks after a suspected extremist shot dead nine people of migrant backgrounds.

An interior ministry spokesman said raids were being carried out in 10 of Germany’s 16 states.

“For the first time, the interior minister has banned a Reichsbürger (Citizens of the Reich) group,” the spokesman said. “Even in these times of crisis, we will fight far-right extremism, racism and antisemitism.”

The United German Peoples and Tribes organisation banned on Thursday belongs to the wider Citizens of the Reich movement, which is fed by conspiracy theories.


The Reichsbürger movement ("Imperial Citizens' Movement"), denies the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany, the democratic state that was founded in the country after World War II and still governs today. The group believes that the German Empire exists in the form it had back in 1937.
The now forbidden small subgroup "United German Peoples and Tribes" (Geeinte deutsche Völker und Stämme) has about 120 members. Heike W., who is the most well-known face of the group, does not consider herself to be part of the "Reichsbürger" scene. She spreads her theories on the group's website and on YouTube, among other things. W. refers to "the Germanic first settlement rights".
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2020 05:47 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Probably Imams deciding everything over there too, we all know Trump takes his orders direct from the Saudis.

I'd ask you to provide evidence that this I true, but we know that you feel you have transcended the need to support your various assertions.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2020 05:56 am
@Brandon9000,
That post is all the evidence I need to prove you have no concept of irony.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2020 06:42 am
@izzythepush,
But what you cannot prove is that Trump takes his orders from the Saudis. It must be tremendously liberating to be able to spew out any nonsense and feel no obligation to provide evidence for any if it.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2020 06:54 am
@Brandon9000,
Again, no concept of irony. I can see why you vote Trump. If you'd looked at this thread you'd see your fellow lickspittle Coldjoint spouting nonsense about how all European governments are controlled by Imams.

I notice you've not asked him for any proof of that.

All I was doing was being ironic, which everybody else seems to understand, yet even after that was pointed out to you, you still didn't get it.

Like you said on another post, 'there's no cure for stupid.' Now go and bug someone else, I'm not wasting any more time on idiots.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2020 07:13 am
@izzythepush,
And it's not remotely liberating having to explain, with very little success, the flaming obvious to a complete moron.

It's actually quite depressing.

You must get that a lot, now go and depress someone else.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 19 Mar, 2020 10:29 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
fellow lickspittle Coldjoint spouting nonsense about how all European governments are controlled by Imams.

I never said that but you refuse to tell the truth about anything. Islam is in control by virtue of the cowards you have appointed or elected. Citizens are arrested for criticizing policy and the religion. Your press hides behind the word "Asian" and people and children suffer, especially the children.

I am right here but you do not have the sand to confront me. Why don't you tell everyone why that is?

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2020 12:19 pm
Revolution Chemnitz: Right-wing German terror group handed jail terms
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Eight men were found guilty of being members of a terrorist organization for their involvement in the group "Revolution Chemnitz." The men planned to launch a civil-war-like revolt in Berlin before they were caught.

In their ruling, the Higher Regional Court in Dresden agreed with prosecutors that the group constituted a terrorist organization.

The ringleader, Christian K., was handed the longest sentence —five years and six months — for founding and being a member of a terrorist group.

The other defendants were sentenced to two years and three months in prison for taking part in "Revolution Chemnitz." Five of them were also found guilty of severely disturbing the peace, while another was also sentenced for aggravated assault.

The men, aged 22 to 32, allegedly lead the skinhead, hooligan and neo-Nazi scenes in the eastern German city of Chemnitz.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2020 01:01 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Eight men were found guilty of being members of a terrorist organization for their involvement in the group "Revolution Chemnitz." The men planned to launch a civil-war-like revolt in Berlin before they were caught.

I think the Salafists living in Germany outnumber that group. Any arrests made in that department? Would your media report on them?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 24 Mar, 2020 01:30 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
I think the Salafists living in Germany outnumber that group. Any arrests made in that department? Would your media report on them?
Just to clarify, cj, and to give you a new level re your "thinking":
• the Higher Regional Court in Dresden is the highest court in the state of Saxony ("Oberlandesgericht Dresden").
• it was the "criminal case against Sten E. et al. on suspicion of founding a terrorist organisation, etc." (4 St 3/19),
• in the view of the Saxon Constitutional Protection Agency, the potential number of salafistic persons comprises approx. 230 persons.
• the Leipzig-based "left alliance" of left-wing SPD members, Evangelical groups, trade unionists and Die Linke Party members repeatedly called for a ban on at least open activities. However, these Salafists have not yet attracted attention under criminal law (hence only the observation by the Constitutional Protection Agency and no police action).
 

 
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