9
   

Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2020 11:52 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Hitler did not have that problem.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 12:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
That's why coldjoint speaks so eloquently for the victims of Islam.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 12:30 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
That's why coldjoint speaks so eloquently for the victims of Islam.
So murdering others is okay, like those a couple of days ago and all those others before?

I can't imagine, Niemöller would have approved such. (See his quote above!)
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 01:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
No. You have our position backwards. We think that murder is wrong.

Regarding the massacre a few days ago, that's what happens when your government deprives people of their freedom to carry guns in public.

Just over a month ago some guy tried to massacre a church in Texas. People in Texas are allowed to carry guns in church. The Texas church shooter was dead two seconds after he started shooting.
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 07:55 am
UK to ban neo-Nazi Sonnenkrieg Division as a terrorist group
Quote:
A neo-Nazi group is to become the second extreme rightwing outfit to be banned as a terrorist organisation in the UK, the home secretary has announced.

Sonnenkrieg Division (SKD), members of which have been jailed for serious offences, is to be proscribed, making membership of the group illegal and punishable by up to 10 years in prison, Priti Patel said.

Another order will recognise the extreme right wing group System Resistance Network as an alias of the already proscribed neo-Nazi organisation National Action.
... ... ...
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 11:31 am
@Walter Hinteler,

Quote:
UK to ban neo-Nazi Sonnenkrieg Division as a terrorist group

Good for them. Next they should ban the mosques that teach hate and terror. I just do not see that happening. Terror is terror, and Islam has a much greater reach than Neo-Nazis.

By the way, how many people has this group being banned killed? The research I have done says 0.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 11:55 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
The research I have done says 0.
You are an officer with the Counter Terrorism Command? Shocked Shocked

So how do you define the counter-terrorism legislation - your definition seems to be very different to what others see the laws.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 12:18 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
You are an officer with the Counter Terrorism Command?

No I am not, are you? If you are, you are doing a piss poor job with Islam. How many people has this Neo Nazi group killed?

Quote:
So how do you define the counter-terrorism legislation

I define it as inadequate and wasting time unless they are going after Islamics. It does a lot to promote self hatred, but that is about it.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 12:24 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
No I am not, are you?
I didn't claim to have a research, you did.

coldjoint wrote:

I define it as inadequate
So these laws and related court rulings can be neglected in your expert legal opinion?
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 12:50 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
coldjoint wrote:

I define it as inadequate
So these laws and related court rulings can be neglected in your expert legal opinion?

That really is a serious question, coldjoint.

I mean, the Terrorism Act 2000 is - as the name suggest - not really a new law, thus "terrorism" in the proscription context has been defined since years, the list of proscribed terrorist organisations is frequently updated - so why is it inadequate?

You did researches, remember? Why are your results different to those of the Proscription Review Group?
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 01:31 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The AfD will continue to be part of the Hamburg parliament, but the FDP will not. This is the result of the preliminary official final result published by the Statistical Office for Hamburg and Schleswig-Holstein. According to the results, the Liberals* received 4.9 percent of the votes, the AfD 5.3 percent.
(The fact that FDP candidate Thomas Kemmerich was prime ministert by the CDU and AfD in Thuringia is seen as one of the main reasons for the poor performance of the Christian Democrats and Liberals*.)

* Liberals = FDP, "Free Democratic Party", a classical liberal party.
0 Replies
 
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2020 03:32 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
so why is it inadequate?

Because it denies what Islam is.
0 Replies
 
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Wed 26 Feb, 2020 09:07 pm

Lessons from London: You Can't Fix Jihad

Quote:
The latest terrorist attacks in England illustrate the inadequacy of conventional law enforcement and criminology for dealing with ideologically-driven violence. Rehabilitation programs and criminal justice approaches that might work with thieves, muggers or even some murderers have proven spectacular failures when it comes to Islamists. In spite of many attempts, no one has figured out how to rehabilitate jihadis such as Sudesh Amman, the Streatham stabber, or Usman Khan, the London Bridge stabber, or the three London Bridge stabbers before that. With apologies to comedian Ron White, you can't fix jihad.

Are right wing extremists offered rehabilitation?

Quote:
Psychological attempts to 'de-radicalize' captured jihadis don't work.

That does not mean the wonder babies running the UK will stop wasting money on it.
https://www.meforum.org/60477/lessons-from-london-you-cant-fix-jihad
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2020 11:56 pm
Podcast: What's behind the rise of Germany's far right?
Quote:
A terrorist attack in Hanau is just the latest incident of far-right violence in Germany in recent years. It left local residents outraged, with many questioning the effectiveness of the police and security services in the battle against far-right extremism.

The Guardian’s Berlin bureau chief Philip Oltermann tells Anushka Asthana that this latest attack comes at a worrying time for Germany. There is political upheaval as Angela Merkel prepares to depart as chancellor, and meanwhile the far-right AfD is making gains. He says that while many in Germany’s security services were focusing on the rising threat from Islamist-inspired terrorism, they have been accused of downplaying the threat from neo-Nazi groups.
0 Replies
 
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Mon 2 Mar, 2020 09:13 pm
Quote:
Germany: 500 Muslim migrants hunt Germans celebrating carnival and beat them up

Party up!
Quote:
The police now see the phenomenon of targeted beating relatively frequently. The young provocateurs are usually small groups who do not drink alcohol and do not want to celebrate. However, they deliberately mingle with the partially drunk partiers in order to start brawls.

Not right wingers, but they are supremacists.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/03/germany-500-muslim-migrants-hunted-germans-celebrating-carnival-and-beat-them-up
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2020 06:27 am
The German Military Counterintelligence Service (MAD) classified 14 members of the armed forces as extremists in 2019, as published today.
The list of individuals - submitted to Parliament and seen by German press agency DPA and news magazine Der Spiegel - included eight Bundeswehr members who were found to be right-wing extremists. Four others were said to be Islamists, while two were described as belonging to movements that do not recognise the German state and its laws. A further 38 people reportedly lacked allegiance to the German constitution.

A string of cases of extremism in the German military and among other security forces have been brought to light in recent years, as the government struggles to contain right-wing extremist threats and violence in the country.
Earlier this year, MAD said more than 500 German soldiers were being investigated for suspected extremist views, with 360 cases of suspected right-wing extremism registered in 2019.
0 Replies
 
izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2020 10:06 am
Quote:
Tommy Robinson has been charged with common assault after an "altercation" at a Center Parcs swimming pool.

Police were called to the upmarket holiday camp's Woburn Forest site when a guest sustained a facial injury on Sunday.

They arrested a 37-year-old man at the scene, while the injured man received first aid.

Bedfordshire Police said the arrested man had been bailed until 2 April to appear at Luton Magistrates' Court.

The ex-English Defence League leader, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, released a video saying he had been arrested.

Center Parcs and police confirmed that officers had been called to the site at around 13:10 GMT on Sunday.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-51719838
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 3 Mar, 2020 05:41 pm
@izzythepush,
They could not be a better way to draw more attention to the shithole your country is turning into than by persecuting this man.
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 12:19 pm
Neo-Nazi Metropolitan Police officer arrested on suspicion of terror offences
Quote:
Constable, 21, accused of being member of banned terrorist group

A serving Metropolitan Police officer has been arrested on suspicion of neo-Nazi terror offences.

Scotland Yard said the 21-year-old constable was suspected of being a member of a “proscribed organisation linked to right-wing terrorism”.

The officer, who works in frontline policing in London, was arrested on Thursday and remains in custody while his home is searched.

“Officers from the Met's Directorate of Professional Standards have been informed and the officer’s status is at present under review,” a spokesperson for Scotland Yard said.

“The matter has also been referred to the Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC) as a mandatory referral.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Thu 5 Mar, 2020 12:24 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Constable, 21, accused of being member of banned terrorist group

Details? How many has this banned group killed? Will the press compare the numbers to Islamic terror? Not a chance. Just promoting more self-loathing for a people who have already lost their country.
 

 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.04 seconds on 05/10/2024 at 07:21:33