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Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2018 01:24 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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“Peaceful people power chased the fascists off our streets,” Anderson, a Labour politician, said, adding that he wanted to “show these people they are not welcome in this city”.

The same Labour party that is of the anti-Semetic kind? Kind of a pot meet kettle thing. The Right are not the haters or fascists, the Left is simply more organized ( have more money) and are full of hate.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 03:54 am
@izzythepush,
KKK garb on Northern Irish streets – then a swift display of unity
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Secrets don’t last long in Newtownards, a market town in Northern Ireland, not even when you cloak your identity beneath a Ku Klux Klan robe and hood.

The group of at least eight men who marched through the town in KKK regalia last weekend and brandished crosses outside an Islamic prayer centre caused an outcry – and left a trail of evidence.

Several of the men took off their hoods and drank beer in one pub. In another they danced. They shouted greetings to passersby who recognised their voices. Photographs and videos – since removed – ended up on Facebook.

“Yeah, I know who they are,” said one pub owner, who declined to be named. “Grown men acting like complete eejits, how can you not?”

So the Halloween marchers who hit the headlines were hardly anonymous. And perhaps that was the point: they could parade through town in white-supremacist garb, revealing their identity while targeting a religious minority, and apparently get away with it.

“They weren’t teenagers; they were grown men. They knew what they were at,” said Kellie Armstrong of the liberal, non-sectarian Alliance party, who is Northern Ireland assembly member for the Strangford constituency.

The police are investigating the incident as a hate crime and are understood to have identified some members of the group. But the brazenness of last Saturday’s march has beamed a spotlight on anti-Muslim sentiment in Northern Ireland – and on efforts by far-right groups in England to export their brand of xenophobia across the Irish Sea.

Britain First, whose leaders were jailed in England earlier this year for religiously aggravated harassment of Muslims, has chosen Newtownards, a loyalist bastion 10 miles east of Belfast on the tip of Strangford Lough, as its bridgehead.

Members of Britian First visited the town in 2015 and filmed its Islamic prayer centre, a discreet, unmarked building previously unknown to many residents. A campaign of intimidation ensued – graffiti on the walls, a severed pig’s head left on the doorstep.

The group’s leader, Paul Golding, was at an initial Britian First meeting in Northern Ireland, in Newtownards in July. And then, last Saturday, came the KKK parade.

“Given that they stopped outside the Islamic prayer centre, it doesn’t seem like a fancy dress jape gone wrong: it was clearly intended to send a message,” Les Allamby, chief commissioner for Northern Ireland’s Human Rights Commission, said in an interview.

During the pub crawl, the KKK imitators met Tony Martin, the newly anointed leader of the National Front, who is from Croydon, and his girlfriend, Sharon Mellor. She posed with one hooded man, his tunic splattered with fake blood. She didn’t know who they were, she told the Belfast Telegraph. “I wasn’t with them: I merely posed for a picture. I haven’t hurt anyone, neither do I plan to.”

In 2015 Mellor, who lives in Newtownards, said she had tried to burn down the Islamic centre. She later said this was a joke.

Several residents said some of the KKK group were paramilitaries. “Sure who else would just waltz down Regent street like that? They’re showing who’s in charge.”

And the pub staff who served the KKK group were keeping silent. “I saw nothing, heard nothing,” said one woman. “No idea, it was my night off,” said another. “There’s the door, please leave,” said a third.

Numbers of racially motivated crimes in Northern Ireland now exceed those connected to traditional sectarian bigotry, police figures show. Between July 2016 and June 2017 there were 1,062 racist incidents reported versus 938 incidents involving traditional religious sectarianism. But despite the KKK incident there is little evidence of far-right inroads here. In Newtownards, politicians and church leaders rallied in a swift, impressive display of solidarity with their Muslim neighbours.

“The community is very much on the side of the victims,” said Peter Weir, a Democratic Unionist party assembly member. “If you’re looking to intimidate it doesn’t require a large proportion of the population.”

Allanby, of the Human Rights Commission, said the far-right was struggling to gain traction. “Groups like Britain First clearly see fertile ground here. But the main political parties here have got better at not playing the race card.”Attendees at the Britain First meeting were few, and outnumbered by counter-protestors. Its credibility perhaps still suffers from an incident in 2015 when its leaders posed in front of a “big new mosque” –which was in fact Newtownards town hall.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 4 Nov, 2018 07:19 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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KKK garb on Northern Irish streets –

How does that change Islam's agenda?
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“The community is very much on the side of the victims,” said Peter Weir, a Democratic Unionist party assembly member. “If you’re looking to intimidate it doesn’t require a large proportion of the population.”

Guess who figured that out a while ago.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 5 Nov, 2018 06:01 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Antisemitism row: Ukip accused over links with US far-right websiteJewish groups call on party to disassociate itself from ‘vile and dangerous’ Infowars

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Jewish organisations have accused Ukip of embracing antisemitic conspiracy theories through the party’s links to a far-right US website that regularly attacks George Soros and has argued that the Pittsburgh synagogue attack could have been instigated by the US government.

The Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Community Security Trust (CST) has called on Ukip to dissociate itself from Infowarsafter it brought in one of the website’s editors as a member and used him to promote the party to younger people.

John Mann, MP, who chairs the all-party parliamentary group against antisemitism, said Infowars was a “vile and dangerous” organisation.
[...]
Jones and Watson insist they are not antisemitic, and Watson has not publicly endorsed many of Jones’s more lurid conspiracy theories.

But the Jewish groups said they were alarmed that Ukip should ally itself with the website. A spokesman for the Board of Deputies said it was very concerned at the party’s association with people “propagating conspiracy theories and dogwhistle antisemitism”.

He said: “We call on the party leadership to publicly and unequivocally disassociate themselves from these views and to expel any members who are found to hold them.”

A spokesman for the CST, which works against antisemitism in the UK, said: “The seepage of antisemitism and conspiracy theories into mainstream politics encourages hatred and undermines democracy. Rather than shunning these dangers, Ukip appears to be embracing them; and in the process is losing any claim it once had to be a respectable, mainstream party.”

Mann said: “In a climate of political uncertainty, conspiracy theories have been rising in popularity. Infowars is notorious for its part in feeding such conspiracies and at the root of many, if not all, of these myths is a hatred and suspicion of Jews.

“Any party serious about tackling antisemitism and racism would do well to cut all ties with infowars.”

A Ukip spokesman said: “Mr Watson is frequently the subject of attacks by actual antisemites because of his vociferous support for Israel. He is no more responsible for the comments of Alex Jones than Andrew Neil is for the comments of the director general of the BBC.

“This line of questioning, built on cynical supposition and innuendo, is a clumsy attempt to smear Mr Watson and Ukip for political gain. To comment any further would give it a credibility it does not deserve.”
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 5 Nov, 2018 12:20 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Jewish groups call on party to disassociate itself from ‘vile and dangerous’ Infowars

Infowars does not even hold a candle to the Labour party that is obviously anti-Semitic. And the Labour party has the support of Islam, another dead give away. Centuries old hate from the doctrine of a religion is much more worrisome than an internet celebrity. This is no more than a distraction from a much bigger problem in the UK, and sycophants are eating it up. Aren't they?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 5 Nov, 2018 01:04 pm
@coldjoint,
Those Jewish groups - The Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Community Security Trust (CTS) - are neither Labour nor even a political party:
Board of Deputies of British Jews
CST Protecting our Jewish Community
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 5 Nov, 2018 01:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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are neither Labour nor even a political party:
Board of Deputies of British Jews

No, they are self-hating Jews carrying water for globalists.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 5 Nov, 2018 01:54 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
No, they are self-hating Jews carrying water for globalists.
Is it not very presumptuous to call the elected representatives of the 270,000 British Jews in such a derogatory way?
80 years ago, we had had the Pogrom Night here in Germany ... more than 80,000 Jewish refugees could escape in those days to the UK, "self-hating Jews" as you call them.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 5 Nov, 2018 01:55 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Is it not very presumptuous to call the elected representatives of the 27,000 British Jews in such a derogatory way?

Oh my! It must be if you say so. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 11:09 am
@Walter Hinteler,
In these days there are commemorations everywhere in Germany for the anniversary of the Pogrom Night* of 1938.

One has to accuse the extreme-right AfD politician Andreas Wild of a disgusting provocation at the commemoration of the 80th anniversary of the pogrom night in the House of Representatives: Wild wore a blue cornflower on the lapel of his jacket both there and later at the Holocaust memorial.
Between 1933 and 1938, such flowers served in Austria as a symbol of the National Socialists, who were banned at the time.


*Pogrom Night is what in English is called "Kristallnacht", a trivialising term invented by the Nazis.
The pogroms between 7 and 13 November 1938 marked the transition from discrimination to the persecution of Jews, which later led to the Shoa.
In the course of these November pogroms, 127 people died in today's NRW (my home state) alone.
It seems disrespectful to me to call this "Crystal Night" or even worse "Night of Broken Glass".

coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 11:34 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Kristallnacht"

I was nice enough not to say Germans love breaking glass in response to your gif and the character in the glass house. I guess you handled that for me. Thanks.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 12:54 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Paypal stops handling payments for Tommy Robinson
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Paypal has told former English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson it will no longer process payments on his behalf, the BBC understands.

The payments network is believed to have told Mr Robinson he had violated its terms and conditions.

It said Paypal could not be used to promote hate, violence or discrimination.

Online petitions calling on finance firms to sever links with him have gained thousands of signatures.

In a statement, Paypal said it could not comment on individual customers but added that it regularly reviewed accounts to ensure their use aligned with its acceptable use policy.

Accounts that broke its policies would be closed, it said.

Paypal added: "We do not take decisions like these lightly, and we work hard to be rigorous and fair-minded when reviewing PayPal accounts.

"Striking the necessary balance between upholding free expression and open dialogue and protecting principles of tolerance, diversity and respect for all people is a challenge that many companies are grappling with today."

In September, Paypal stopped processing payments for conspiracy theory site Infowars for promoting "hate and intolerance".
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:04 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Paypal stops handling payments for Tommy Robinson

Another fascist example by a cooperation under the governments boot. They are experts at money transfer and have no right to explain what diversity or tolerance is to anyone.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:17 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Another fascist example by a cooperation under the governments boot. They are experts at money transfer and have no right to explain what diversity or tolerance is to anyone.
To what "governments boot" are you referring here?
[PayPal Europe has a Luxembourg banking license. It's policy is supervised by the Commission de Surveillance du Secteur Financier (CSSF).]
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:39 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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[PayPal Europe has a Luxembourg banking license. It's policy is supervised by the Commission de Surveillance du Secteur Financier (CSSF).]

You are right. Now tell me they are not influenced (greatly) by the EU and toe the line gladly. Fascists and authoritarians stick together, right?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 01:46 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Now tell me they are not influenced (greatly) by the EU
They have to follow Luxembourg and EU laws.
Banks in the USA can do as they without being regulated by federal and/or state laws?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 02:20 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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They have to follow Luxembourg and EU laws.

So it is the law they must classify someone as a bigot and a hater and refuse him service. Nice law.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 02:26 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
So it is the law they must classify someone as a bigot and a hater and refuse him service. Nice law.
Logic isn't your speciality, and answering questions wasn't part of your education.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 02:29 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Logic isn't your speciality, n'est-pas?

The same way reality is not your forte?
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 05:42 pm
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UK: Labour Party invites ISLAMIC EXTREMIST to ANTI-RACISM event!

No Fascism here, move along.
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