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Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 01:51 pm
@coldjoint,
You misunderstood something: the extrem-right wing party AfD as well as their youth organisation has nothing to do with the Quran.

Well, besides that they have the same opinion as you.

(Reker, btw, is a member of the Evangelical Church of the Rhineland, not a Muslima.)
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 01:59 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Well, besides that they have the same opinion as you.

When have I said anyone should be killed? You are speaking from your ass, Walt.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 02:02 pm
@coldjoint,
You called those persons "people with courage".
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 02:08 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
You called those persons "people with courage".

You are answering with a statement that has nothing to do with my question. The answer is I have never said anyone should be killed. And courage is an universal trait, it comes from convictions, and convictions are subjective.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 11:09 am
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A teenage British soldier has been discharged and his fellow troops are facing investigations after the Muslim Council of Britain complained when they took a picture with Tommy.

That is all it took to discharge this soldier? Looks like Tommy has a lot of support. Maybe it is time to discharge the whole army.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 11:28 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
That is all it took to discharge this soldier?
Yes.

Laws are laws, like civil servants, members of the Royal Family and broadcast journalists, serving soldiers and other military personnel must remain apolitical. (Posing with Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn and chanting their names may have incurred just as strict a punishment.)
Additionally, members of the military have been warned on previous occaisions against affiliations to the EDL. (In 2017, two serving British soldiers were charged with being members of the banned organisation National Front.)

Besides that: the Royal Army was alrteady investigating before the Muslim Council of Britain "complained" (easily to notice for those, who can read dates).
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 11:30 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Posing with Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn and chanting their names may have incurred just as strict a punishment.

Thank you for your educated guess.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 11:42 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Thank you for your educated guess.


Well, I've learnt reading at school, so from your point of view my response might be "educated".
However, it's not a "guess" since I can read the English words as well, like those of the Armed Force Act and what then defence minister Mark Francois wrote, too.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 11:52 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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However, it's not a "guess"

"may have" sure sounds like a guess. But I am not here to argue about what you think you said. Robinson, again, has put the appeasement of Islam by the UK government back in the spotlight. Every time that happens he garners more support, and that seems to upset you.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 12:08 pm
It's not all bad news.

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More than 100,000 people have been marching in the German capital Berlin to protest against xenophobia and the increasing influence of the far right.

Rights groups organised the rally, as marchers held placards reading "Indivisible" and "United against racism".

The BBC's Jenny Hill in Berlin says even the organisers seemed surprised by the turnout.

Support for the anti-immigration AfD party has risen in recent years.

The Alternative for Germany entered parliament for the first time last year, becoming the biggest opposition party, and is expected to make a strong showing in elections in the southern state of Bavaria on Sunday.

Marchers walked through central Berlin, rallying at the Brandenburg Gate.

Many said they were defending human rights and tolerance, particularly of migrants.

"I'm worried that we are not there for the others, and that we just don't bother or care about loads of people who really need our help," said one demonstrator.

"Nobody just comes because they are bored."

One woman said: "There are so many people who believe they can abuse human rights and questions of equality and so on, and it's time to say no, there are other people who just want to be open and open-minded."



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45851665
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 12:09 pm
Today about 240,000 have taken to the streets of Berlin to face down the rise of far-right populism in Germany and Europe.
A 5-kilometer (3-mile) stretch of the capital city's centre, from Alexanderplatz through the Brandenburg Gate to the Victory Column, had to be closed down to accommodate the huge parade, which was united under the hashtag #unteilbar ("indivisible").
Trade unions, NGOs, political parties (both mainstream and fringe), gay rights and churches' groups, schools and theatres, were united behind the slogan: "Solidarity not marginalisation."
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 12:17 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Sat 13 Oct, 2018 12:09 pm
Today about 240,000 have taken to the streets of Berlin to face down the rise of far-right populism in Germany and Europe.

Big deal.
Quote:
"Solidarity not marginalisation."

Sounds nice, means nothing.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 12:25 pm
@izzythepush,
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"United against racism".

A slogan that only applies to the elitist meaning of racism which means anyone objecting to Islamization is a racist.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 12:32 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 12:09 pm
Today about 240,000 have taken to the streets of Berlin to face down the rise of far-right populism in Germany and Europe.

Big deal.
Yes. Only 40,000 were expected by the organisers.

coldjoint wrote:
Quote:
"Solidarity not marginalisation."

Sounds nice, means nothing.
Perhaps I should have quoted the slogan in the original German and the full version to give the correct meaning?
Here it is: Für eine offene und freie Gesellschaft – Solidarität statt Ausgrenzung.
You are free to interpret the sound and meaning of this slogan and the individual words again, or to remain with the previously expressed expertise.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 12:39 pm
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Steve Bannon's European Movement

This guy must piss some people off, but he has never let that bother him. I do not think he will care anytime soon.
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Is Europe’s new populist movement exclusively a rightwing phenomenon, or does it seek to unite anti-establishment forces of all stripes? This is the first question I ask Steve Bannon about his new project, The Movement, a foundation that hopes to unite populist forces across the continent. His answer is clear: “Absolutely, Italy is the best example of what we’d like to achieve.” The Movement wants to unify all anti-establishment factions and transcend the left-right dichotomy to fight the “party of Davos”—the financial, managerial, and cultural elite which has been running the Western world into the ground.

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2018/10/steve-bannons-european-movement
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2018 12:42 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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You are free to interpret the sound and meaning of this slogan and the individual words again, or to remain with the previously expressed expertise.

Do not ever forget that freedom does not come from Walter or anyone else.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2018 10:25 am
https://i.imgur.com/jzO9RxI.jpg

KKK incident at Islamic centre is hate crime, say Belfast police
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2018 10:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I read that earlier. NI is one of the least tolerant parts of the UK.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2018 12:41 pm
@izzythepush,
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NI is one of the least tolerant parts of the UK.

Islam is the most intolerant religion/ideology there is.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 3 Nov, 2018 01:16 pm
@izzythepush,
The Scousers not only say "No, fella, swerve the North West Frontline Patriots" but they act:
Liverpool makes a stand and runs far-right marchers out of town
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A far-right group has abandoned plans to march through Liverpool after members were visibly outnumbered by counter-demonstrators, including the mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson.

A handful of marchers from the so-called North West Frontline Patriots were met by hundreds of anti-fascist counter-protesters co-ordinated by groups such as Merseyside Together and Unite Against Fascism as they arrived in Liverpool on Saturday.

“Peaceful people power chased the fascists off our streets,” Anderson, a Labour politician, said, adding that he wanted to “show these people they are not welcome in this city”.
[...]
About half a dozen people were seen arriving at Moorfields station and being escorted outside by police before swiftly returning indoors, as crowds of counter-protesters chanted “No pasaran” while holding placards proclaiming “No to Racism”.

The group had reportedly intended to march from Moorfields station at its Exchange Street entrance along Dale Street to Derby Square. There was a big police presence in place to escort them along that route.

However, they barely made it out of the station. The anti-racist group Hope Not Hate said: “Five fascists turned up for a march in Liverpool today. Pleased to report they left after five minutes.”


 

 
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