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Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2018 03:29 pm
@glitterbag,
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Seems to me that you ask questions that are far too invasive and also

Show us one.
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Or a relentless gossip.

That's original.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2018 01:07 am
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An alleged far-right terrorist who named his child after Hitler posed with the newborn while clad in the white robes of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), a court heard.

Prosecutors say Adam Thomas, 22, and Claudia Patatas, 38, gave their baby the middle name Adolf in honour of the Nazi leader.

The pair are charged alongside Daniel Bogunovic, 27, with being members of banned neo-Nazi group National Action

All three deny being in the group.

Jurors at Birmingham Crown Court previously heard Ms Patatas and Mr Thomas' child - who was given the middle name Adolf - appeared in a picture alongside "vehement racist" Darren Fletcher.

On the second day of the trial, the court was shown a picture of a man in hooded white robes cradling a baby.

Barnaby Jameson QC, prosecuting, said: "The suggestion is that is Mr Thomas and his child, whose middle name is Adolf."

He said another image from the "Thomas-Patatas family album" showed the defendant, again wearing the signature uniform of the white supremacist US group, brandishing a machete in front of a Confederate flag.

It was shown hanging over a sofa, next to two cushions emblazoned with the Swastika.

Mr Jameson said the couple also had a poster stuck to their fridge reading "Britain is ours - the rest must go".

Jurors were also told Ms Patatas, of Banbury, sent a WhatsApp message to convicted National Action member Fletcher, declaring: "All Jews must be put to death".

Outlining further mobile phone evidence, Mr Jameson read a message apparently sent from Thomas to Patatas in September 2017.

In it, he used racial slurs to to describe black and Asian colleagues, describing one as "half-bred" and one as a "mongrel".

"What I've found is that all non-whites are intolerable but the ones who have lived here most of their lives are even worse," the court heard.

"They have a more thuggery attitude about them as opposed to the sterotypical childish African."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-45814439
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2018 07:18 am
@izzythepush,
Here in Germany, the far-right party AfD is adopting tactics used during Nazi and Communist eras: school pupils in Germany are being urged to denounce teachers who express a political opinion - an open attempt to exploit children and young people and to instigate the practice of denunciation.

An example from my state: a headteacher was denounced by the AfD after he invited the surviving member of a girls’ orchestra that was imprisoned in Auschwitz to talk to his school.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2018 08:46 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I hope people are pushing back against the reporting.

We recently had a right of centre party elected provincially. They set up a line (email and phone) to snitch on teachers who were teaching the most recent sex ed curriculum (the government is trying to go back to the 1997 version). People started calling/texting to report on the government - and there was a series of demonstrations to support the new curriculum organized by students. And now - the province's own human rights commission has joined a law suit against the provincial government. It's been an interesting 100 days here politically.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2018 09:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Here in Germany, the far-right party AfD is adopting tactics used during Nazi and Communist eras:

Merkel has already beaten them to that. Your news is censored, your social media is censored, and Islam is appeased by your politicians pushing that diversity is a strength. All a lie that enables that ensures cultural suicide.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2018 10:01 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Merkel has already beaten them to that.
Merkel is the Federal Chancellor. Schools/education is state's affair.
Those websites were set up by the national parties and/or the state parliamentary groups of the AfD.

We have seen the "cultural suicide" (a lot, lot more than just that) when the GeStaPo and Stasi acted similar to what the AfD does with those websites.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2018 10:30 am
@Walter Hinteler,

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We have seen the "cultural suicide"

The whole world has seen it. Western Europe is doomed.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2018 11:11 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
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We have seen the "cultural suicide"

The whole world has seen it.
I truly think that we (at least the vast majority of Germans) are thankful that the whole world reacted and we got rid of the Nazis in 1945.
Most think, too, that it has been good that the GDR disappeared. Certainly less than compared to the Nazis, but certainly not the whole world acted.

I don't think, however, that the GeStaPo's and the Stasi's can be attributed to "Western Europe" in general - we just now remember the anniversary of the Odessa Massacre ...
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2018 12:44 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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we got rid of the Nazis in 1945.

The allies got rid of the Nazis, Germans had nothing to do with it.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 11 Oct, 2018 01:14 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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we got rid of the Nazis in 1945.
The allies got rid of the Nazis, Germans had nothing to do with it.
Kind of true: some are here. And there.

But regarding "Germans had nothing to do with it" - kind of untrue: read the Enactment and Approved Papers of the Control Council and Coordinating Committee". Allied Control Authority Germany, 1945.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 12:22 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The allies might not have needed to do anything were in not for the likes of Henry Ford who gave a **** ton of money to the Nazis.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 12:23 pm
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A man has admitted sending hundreds of racist letters nationwide including calls for a "Punish a Muslim Day".

David Parnham, 35, sent the letters to mosques, Muslim parliamentarians including Lord Ahmed of Wimbledon, the Queen, David Cameron and Theresa May.

He pleaded guilty at the Old Bailey to 15 offences, including soliciting to murder and staging a bomb hoax.

Parnham, of St Andrews Close, Lincoln, was remanded in custody and will be sentenced at a later date.

During his two-year campaign, Parnham sent wave after wave of letters across the country that included white supremacist imagery and threats to minorities, mostly Muslims.

His first letters sent in June 2016 contained a white powder as a hoax poison.

In one letter sent to David Cameron, Parnham wrote "Allah is Great" and in others sent to mosques he wrote "Paki filth".

Three months later Parnham sent another wave of white powder letters, including those addressed to the Queen and Theresa May respectively.

One of his poison hoaxes was so sophisticated that it triggered a chemical attack alert at a Royal Mail sorting office in Sheffield.

The following February, he targeted mosques around the UK. One letter to worshippers in Hull included a warning that they were going to be "slaughtered very soon".

In March 2017 he escalated his campaign, encouraging recipients of his post at the University of Sheffield to attack ethnic minorities, proposing that he would donate £100 to charity for each killing.

The court heard these letters amounted to soliciting to murder and Parnham's guilty plea to this charge means he could now receive a life sentence.

A year later, Parnham sent out letters headlined "Punish a Muslim Day", offering "awards" for attacks on people, mosques and Mecca.

He was eventually caught after his DNA and fingerprints were recovered from some of the letters, including one that he sent to Dylann Roof, a US white supremacist who is on death row for a mass murder of black churchgoers three years ago.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45838506
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 12:28 pm
@izzythepush,
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A man has admitted sending hundreds of racist letters nationwide including calls for a "Punish a Muslim Day".

How many Muslims did this man run over, blow up, or behead?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 12:42 pm
@izzythepush,
In a Facebook contribution, the youth organisation of the right-wing party AfD (Cologne branch) wrote of a "Mordsgaudi" (killing fun party) at the announcement of a (sharp) shooting exercise. The site uses a photo of Cologne's Lord Mayor Henriette Reker (non-partisan) as a photo for this event

A banner runs through the photo and it says "Reker has to go". The extreme right-wing assassin, who severely wounded Reker with a knife in 2015, had also used this slogan ("Reker muss weg"). Reker survived.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 01:03 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
They don't change.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 01:23 pm
@izzythepush,
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They don't change.

People with courage very seldom do. I know you know nothing about courage so your opinion is worthless.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 01:26 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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They don't change.
People with courage very seldom do.
Well, killing, or trying to kill the mayor of Cologne is really a sign of courage.
Some, like you, might promoting to it on facebook call it that way, however.
What do you know about her to have such an opinion?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 01:37 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Well, killing, or trying to kill the mayor of Cologne is really a sign of courage.

Is raping the women of Colonge a sign of courage? Blowing up buses in London a sign of courage? Is letting your government lie to people by controlling the press a sign of courage?
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Some, like you, might promoting to it on facebook

Only idiots use Facebook, and opinions like mine would be censored anyway.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 01:41 pm
@coldjoint,
What do you know about the mayor of Cologne (Henriette Reker) that makes you think, killing or promote her killing is courageous?
Do you think, the attacker, who tried it in 2015, should better have got an order instead a trial?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2018 01:44 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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you think, killing or promote her killing is courageous?


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Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Just as courageous as that.
 

 
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